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Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:53 pm
by bennymacca
The guys at the herald sun have decided to reboot the team of the century and have a look at guys from the modern era that might fit into the team.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 6898629222

From a south australian point of view, I really think they could have found room for Gavin Wanganeen and Andrew McLeod. If wanganeen played out his carreer at essendon im sure he would have been included. McLeod's lack of a brownlow might put him a step behind wanganeen but he is also easily one of the best players ever not to win a brownlow. The fact that he doesnt have one and shane woewodin does is one of the all time travesties in the AFL.

I also think the last few years of Chris Judd's career has tarnished his reputation somewhat, I think we forget how dominant he was back in his prime at West Coast. If you look at his record compared with say greg williams, it stacks up pretty well.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:55 pm
by Rik E Boy
Judd isn't fit to shine Diesel's boots. Wowedin was brilliant in 2000 and deserved his medal. One day we will agree and you will faint with shock. :)

regards,

REB

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:02 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
GAblett Jnr on a wing :shock:

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:05 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
No offence, how does Jesaulenko get a gig? Was it because of mark that everyone knows him for?
3x leading goal kicker and 444 goals in 279 games, i'm sure there are plenty with much better records than that

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:08 pm
by bennymacca
Diesel:

Team of the Century
AFL: interchange bench
Sydney/South Melbourne: centre
Carlton: centre

Hall of Fame
Australian Football: (inducted 2001)
Sydney/South Melbourne (inducted 2009)
Carlton: (inducted 1999)

Brownlow Medal
Winner: 1986, 1994
Placed: 1993 (2nd), 1989 (3rd)

VFL/AFL Players Association MVP: 1985, 1994

Club Best and Fairest
Geelong: 1985
Carlton: 1994

Premiership Player: 1995

Norm Smith Medal: 1995
All-Australian: 1986, 1987, 1993, 1994
As captain: 1994
As vice-captain: 1993
Victorian representative: 9 times
As captain: 1989


Chris Judd:

2× Brownlow Medal (2004, 2010)
West Coast premiership 2006
2× Leigh Matthews Trophy 2006, 2011
6× All-Australian team (2004, 2006, 2008-2011)
2× West Coast best and fairest 2004, 2006
3× Carlton best and fairest 2008, 2009, 2010
Norm Smith Medal 2005
Geoff Christian Medal 2006
AFLPA Best First Year Player Award 2002
AFL Rising Star nominee
3× Ross Glendinning Medal 2005, 2005, 2006
West Coast captain 2006–2007
Carlton captain 2008–2012



I stole them from wikipedia so they may not be 100% complete, but you have to admit those records stack up pretty well against each other.

Phantom Gossiper wrote:No offence, how does Jesaulenko get a gig? Was it because of mark that everyone knows him for?
3x leading goal kicker and 444 goals in 279 games, i'm sure there are plenty with much better records than that


click on their revised list. They have Ablett Snr, Carey and Lockett into the team. They do still have him on the bench, but yeah, perfect example of a flashy player that took a famous mark and now every victorian commentator loves him.

I ask once again, McLeod or Wanganeen ahead of him on the bench? surely.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:33 pm
by Rik E Boy
Listing awards that were unavailable to Diesel does not make Judd a comparable footballer. If I had to pick which one I wanted in the middle for my 'super side' it would be Diesel every time. His football brain was second to none. Don't get me wrong I hated the sniping prick but he was one of the best footballers I've ever seen.

I reckon Cousins has Judd covered, let alone Williams.

regards,

REB

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:52 pm
by dedja
Phantom Gossiper wrote:No offence, how does Jesaulenko get a gig? Was it because of mark that everyone knows him for?
3x leading goal kicker and 444 goals in 279 games, i'm sure there are plenty with much better records than that


Showing your lack of age there ... lad.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:01 pm
by Booney
dedja wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:No offence, how does Jesaulenko get a gig? Was it because of mark that everyone knows him for?
3x leading goal kicker and 444 goals in 279 games, i'm sure there are plenty with much better records than that


Showing your lack of age there ... lad.


Also showing a bit of knowledge. His mark was a ripper and he was better than average but not IMO worthy of such an accolade as Team of the Century honors.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:07 pm
by woodublieve12
Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:10 pm
by bennymacca
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??


Another one that would get more accolades if he lived in Victoria. Not exactly underrated or whatever but compare him to james hird for instance, similar sort of player but better in almost every way.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:12 pm
by dedja
As a VFL Team of the Century they've gone fairly close ...

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:14 pm
by woodublieve12
bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??


Another one that would get more accolades if he lived in Victoria. Not exactly underrated or whatever but compare him to james hird for instance, similar sort of player but better in almost every way.

i know i'm a little bit bias but i reckon goodes is better then Hird (just)... Goodes would have to be one of the most versitile footballers ever... Can play every position on the field..

2× AFL Premiership (2005, 2012)
2× Brownlow Medal (2003, 2006)
3× Bob Skilton Medal (2003, 2006, 2011)
4× All Australian (2003, 2006, 2009, 2011)
Sydney leading goalkicker 2009-11
Ron Evans Medal 1999
Indigenous Team of the Century

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:18 pm
by bennymacca
I agree with you.

I'm definitely biased about McLeod but I think he should most definitely be on one of those half back spite

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:19 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??


Another one that would get more accolades if he lived in Victoria. Not exactly underrated or whatever but compare him to james hird for instance, similar sort of player but better in almost every way.

:shock: Nothing like Hird, more versatile! Forward, Midfield, Ruck.. can play anywhere and do it well

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:34 pm
by The Dark Knight
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??


Another one that would get more accolades if he lived in Victoria. Not exactly underrated or whatever but compare him to james hird for instance, similar sort of player but better in almost every way.

:shock: Nothing like Hird, more versatile! Forward, Midfield, Ruck.. can play anywhere and do it well

Yes! James Hird should definitely be in there IMO.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:35 pm
by The Dark Knight
Wayne Carey should be CHF in the team without doubt IMO

And both Senior and Junior Ablett's and Lockett should be in there too.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:37 pm
by bennymacca
Yeah they definitely got that right by adding him

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:07 pm
by valleys07
Wouldnt mind knowing how a man with 1299 goals to his name cant get a gig on the interchange at the very least....

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:19 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
valleys07 wrote:Wouldnt mind knowing how a man with 1299 goals to his name cant get a gig on the interchange at the very least....

Coz he didnt take a hanger like Jesaulenko :lol:

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:36 pm
by Spargo
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??

Can't believe it took you 1 hour 14 mins to post this :lol: