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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:18 am

I am little surprised Sinclair is likely to play this week...

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Sydney Swans experienced defender Jarrad McVeigh and speedster Harry Cunningham are both close to returning from injury and are hoping to be available for selection for Saturday afternoon’s clash with Gold Coast.

McVeigh hasn’t played since straining his hamstring in Sydney’s win over West Coast in Round 12, while Cunningham has been sidelined since tearing his adductor in the Brisbane match in Round 7.

Sydney Head of Football Charlie Gardiner said the duo are progressing well.

“Jarrad is keen to get back as quickly as possible,” Gardiner said.

“He’s back in full training already. It’s only been 19 or 20 days since he injured his hamstring against West Coast, so his recovery has been really good. We’ll just have to see how he gets through training this week.

“Harry had been tracking really well up until two weeks ago around the bye. He put in a solid training load but pulled up a little bit sore. We eased him off, he’s feeling much better, he’s been reintroduced to training this week and if he’s not available for selection this week I expect he will be next week.”

Meanwhile, star Sydney forward Lance Franklin is set for a stint on the sidelines after injuring his hamstring in last Friday’s win over Hawthorn.

“Lance had scans on the weekend on his hamstring which confirmed that he’s injured the same hamstring that he injured in the lead-up to Round 6,” Gardiner said.

“The advice at this stage is that he’ll miss three to four weeks, but we’ll see how he recovers.”

In other news Swans ruckman Callum Sinclair has trained this week and is expected to be right to play after recovering from the head knock he suffered against the Hawks.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:03 pm

Hot Topics: Round 15, 2019

The Sydney Swans celebrate a goal in their most recent clash with the Gold Coast Suns.
The potential returns of Sydney Swans duo Jarrad McVeigh and Harry Cunningham headline the latest instalment of Hot Topics ahead of Saturday afternoon’s SCG clash with the Gold Coast Suns.

Two Swans nearing full flight

A thriving Sydney outfit could be bolstered even further by the returns of evergreen defender McVeigh and the fleet-footed Cunningham. McVeigh hasn’t donned the red and white since straining his hamstring in a clash with the West Coast Eagles in Round 12, and a torn adductor has sidelined Cunningham since the Brisbane Lions match in Round 7, but the duo are making rapid progress on the countdown to Saturday’s game.

Parker’s sparkling run

Sydney co-captain Luke Parker has produced a stunning run of form in recent weeks. The star midfielder has averaged 29.6 disposals and 14.16 contested possessions over the last six games, and he was at his brilliant best in last Friday’s match against Hawthorn. Parker tallied 31 touches (12 contested), seven marks, seven clearances, 12 tackles and a goal on his way to a perfect 10 AFL Coaches’ Association votes in the 19-point win over the Hawks. Is the All Australian set for another best-afield display?

Top 10 draft picks set to light up SCG

The SCG could be set to play host to as many as three top 10 2018 draft picks: Sydney’s Nick Blakey, and Gold Coast’s Jack Lukosius and Ben King. Blakey (pick 10) joined the race for the 2019 AFL Rising Star honour in an exceptional performance against Hawthorn last Friday, slotting two critical final-term goals and grabbing a Mark of the Year contender, while Lukosius (pick three) and King (pick six) have also shone in the early rounds of the season. Blakey and Lukosius have both played 12 AFL games, and King is sitting on five.

Afternoon footy

Sydney’s clash with West Coast in Round 12 reminded the masses of all there is to love about afternoon footy. The Swans’ first afternoon home game of the year drew a season-high 36,640-strong crowd, with fans flocking to the SCG under sunny skies to see the quick and slick footy that often comes with day matches. The Gold Coast game will also play host to a wide range of entertainment on Driver Avenue, including the QBE Fan Zone and the Citi Spin2Win Wheel. And the Swans and the AFL are this week celebrating Grassroots Appreciation Round, which acknowledges the lifeblood of community football: players, coaches, umpires, parents and volunteers. Make sure you’re in the stands as the Swans hunt a third-straight win.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Spargo » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:20 pm

So, who are your top 3 to replace Longmire at seasons end, wubbsy?
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:24 pm

Spargo wrote:So, who are your top 3 to replace Longmire at seasons end, wubbsy?


he isn't going anywhere, i reckon Blakey will go... But if he does the three i reckon the ones we may end up with would be one of these 3

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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:19 am

Club statement

The Sydney Swans are aware that an altercation at a Sydney nightspot over the weekend, allegedly involving North Melbourne player Taylor Garner, was witnessed by one of our players.

Garner was staying with former teammate Ryan Clarke, who had left the venue and headed home before the incident occurred.

Isaac Heeney was at the same venue with friends and witnessed the incident.

Sydney Swans Head of Football Charlie Gardiner said Heeney assisted the alleged victim.

“Both Isaac and Ryan kept the club fully informed about what occurred over the weekend,” Gardiner said.

“Isaac should be commended for defusing the situation and offering support to the other party.

“As this matter is still being investigated, we are unable to make further comment.”
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Trader » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:04 am

Interesting statement for Sydney to put out.
Are they in effect throwing Garner under the bus further by implying that Isaac sided with the "victim"?

I would have thought they should just stay quiet and let North Melbourne deal with it.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am

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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby David Brent » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am

Trader wrote:Interesting statement for Sydney to put out.
Are they in effect throwing Garner under the bus further by implying that Isaac sided with the "victim"?

I would have thought they should just stay quiet and let North Melbourne deal with it.


Bizarre isn't it. Clarke dropped this week just a coincidence also?

The Garner incident has escaped a lot of media scrutiny this week, hardly been mentioned.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:47 am

David Brent wrote:
Trader wrote:Interesting statement for Sydney to put out.
Are they in effect throwing Garner under the bus further by implying that Isaac sided with the "victim"?

I would have thought they should just stay quiet and let North Melbourne deal with it.


Bizarre isn't it. Clarke dropped this week just a coincidence also?

The Garner incident has escaped a lot of media scrutiny this week, hardly been mentioned.

Probably hasn't in Melbourne.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Spargo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:58 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
David Brent wrote:
Trader wrote:Interesting statement for Sydney to put out.
Are they in effect throwing Garner under the bus further by implying that Isaac sided with the "victim"?

I would have thought they should just stay quiet and let North Melbourne deal with it.


Bizarre isn't it. Clarke dropped this week just a coincidence also?

The Garner incident has escaped a lot of media scrutiny this week, hardly been mentioned.

Probably hasn't in Melbourne.


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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:19 pm

Maybe north should stop trying to poach our coach and these things won’t come out ;)
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:29 pm

Thursday July 2nd, 1981, 38 years ago today....

A historic day for our Club.

Thursday 2 July 1981, 38 years ago today, the country awoke to a bombshell. On the back page of The Australian, the national newspaper, under a big, bold heading “Sydney move by VFL club”, was one of the biggest stories in football history.

South Melbourne, a foundation member of the VFL in 1897, was moving north. A club that had played to that point 1553 matches, including 26 finals and 11 grand finals. A club that had been premiers in 1909, 1918 and 1933, and had won the Brownlow Medals nine times. A club that had fielded 1099 players.

The Sun in Melbourne also ran the story on the back page under a huge headline which read SYDNEY OR BUST, with a sub-heading “South tells VFL: club wants 1982 switch”. The Age headline, also on the back page, read “South’s survival kit” and was accompanied by a sub-heading which read “Officials want to retain identity of club”.

It was massive. It should have been on the front page.

Each of the papers told how, on 1 July, South Melbourne had asked the VFL to play the club’s away games in Sydney, and to play the home games at VFL Park, Waverley. Under the club proposal, all matches were to be played on Friday nights and were to be televised.

The proposal was put by Graeme John, South Melbourne president, Craig Kimberley, VFL director and Jack Marks, South Melbourne Club Ltd chairman.

It was trumpeted by John as “a giant step forward in terms of development and competitiveness” as an emotional Marks noted “any South Melbourne supporter under the age of 55 has never seen a premiership win” and said the club would disintegrate within two years if nothing was done.

“Survival is the utmost thing in our mind and I couldn’t give a damn where we played if it ensured the club would retain it’s identity,” said Marks, confirming the club’s dire financial plight.

It was revealed that South Melbourne had suffered an operating loss of at least $150,000 for the five previous years, and forecast that the proposal to play in Sydney would turn an operating loss of $180,000 in 1980 into an operating profit of $90,000 in 1982.

Significantly, it was noted that the VFL had frozen South Melbourne’s share of the ground improvement fund, which stood at $500,000 in 1981. This meant the club was unable to improve the facilities at Lake Oval in South Melbourne, which had been the club’s home since 1874.

It was reported, too, that plans drawn up in 1980 to build a 3000-seat grandstand at Lake Oval would cost $3 million, necessitating a $2.5million loan and annual service costs of $500,000.

Clearly, the message from the South Melbourne administration was that there was no alternative. If the club continued to operate as it had done it would not survive. But if it adopted the Sydney proposal it would not lose its identity, either through an amalgamation or a ground-sharing arrangement, which could even lead to amalgamation.

It wasn’t exactly a new idea. Fitzroy had already rejected a proposed move to the Harbour City and on 29 January 1981 VFL vice-president Graham Huggins had resigned to take up a position as a VFL consultant in Sydney.

As was written by Jim Main in the club’s official history “In the Blood”, Huggins’ move to Sydney had followed a report commissioned by the VFL on the possibility of a club being based in Sydney. Prepared by John Hennessy, it was titled “The Sydney Solution! VFL at the crossroads” and listed key needs if a move was to be successful, including 6000 members, a national sponsor, average attendances after a selling-in period of 17,500, and financial set-up assistance from the League.

After confirmation of the proposed move broke on 2 July, the club sent a letter to members outlining the benefits of the proposed move, including an increased recruiting zone and rich sponsorship opportunities. It was noted that the club’s colours would be retained and South Melbourne coach Ian Stewart and his players had given their unqualified support to the club.

Significantly, too, Bob Skilton, arguably the club’s greatest player, declared that while he did not like the prospect of the Sydney move, he could see no alternative.

It was the start of a hugely volatile period.

On 5 July a protest meeting at Lakeside Oval was held as “Keep South at South” was established, but on 29 July the VFL board of directors approved an amended South Melbourne proposal to play 11 home games at the SCG in 1982.

Initially, all the off-field dramas did not affect the players as they posted four wins in a row after the bombshell announcement, including an 18-point win over ladder leaders Collingwood at the SCG in Round 17. But four losses followed and they finished ninth.

In August, as the season wound down, the KSAS group brought legal action against the South Melbourne board and the VFL, seeking to stop the parties entering into contracts that would prejudice a vote on the proposal by South members.

The South board, operating according to the club’s Articles of Association following a KSAS petition, called an extraordinary meeting on 22 September at which members would vote on four KSAS resolutions – that the meeting had no confidence in the present board of management, that the board be removed from office immediately, that the board be reduced from 10 to six, and that the KSAS board ticket be elected.

In the lead-up to the vote South Melbourne players sent a letter to members requesting that they give their vote to Ricky Quade, former chairman of selectors who had been appointed coach after Stewart’s resignation. It was signed by captain Barry Round, Graham Teasdale, Mark Browning and Francis Jackson.

A proxy war ensued and after much public squabbling it was announced that the KSAS group had won control of the club by “less than 10 votes”, but quickly it became evident that there was a huge split between the new board and the players.

At 1pm on 28 September the KSAS board called the players to a special 6pm meeting that evening.

According to The Age, at 6:16pm the meeting started at Lakeside Oval and the players requested a private 20-minute meeting. This was denied and at 6:19pm all but five of the players marched out and reconvened in the carpark. At 6:23pm the players decided not to return and left.

The parties met again in the days that followed and for a time it seemed like the angst was reducing but on 14 October the VFL refused to rescind their decision to approve South Melbourne’s proposal to play 11 home games at the SCG in 1982.

This reaffirmed the players’ resolve to play in Sydney, and on 23 October it was reported that “about 20 players, including most of the senior team” had retained a solicitor to put their case to the club administration.

On 7 November three Melbourne-based papers reported that 18 South Melbourne players were effectively on strike after their demands had not been met by the club. Summonses were issued by 17 players claiming they had not been paid since Round 10 and were owed $79,000. It was reported that “at least 11 players” had terminated their contracts with the club after the club had refused to commit long-term to the Sydney move.

On 18 November the South Melbourne administration appealed to the VFL for a $400,000 loan to alleviate liquidity problems, and on 25 November this was confirmed on the basis that the club commit to Sydney for at least two years, would not use the money for recruitment, and that the VFL would administer the loan.

On 3 December captain Round quit the club and a week later other players walked out on a meeting with the KSAS administration, after the KSAS board had refused to resign. The Age reported that the rift between the parties had widened, and the Sun suggested the VFL was set to take over the club.

It was a standoff and on 11 December Bill Collins, the country’s leading horse race caller and a committed South Melbourne supporter, took over as president after finally the board had stepped aside. On 17 December the media detailed a new composite board of management that had been formed as part of a peace deal with the players.

But it wasn’t over yet. On 20 December John Rantall was appointed coach for the 1982 season over Quade on the back of Collins’ casting vote. Four of the five board members who had voted for Quade resigned. It was suggested, too, that players would follow.

It wasn’t that Rantall was not a popular and respected figure – he was – but the players were hugely loyal to Quade after his prominent role in the earlier battles. The club’s very future was on the line, according to League chief Allen Aylett, and on 24 December the Sun reported that Rantall had chosen to “put South Melbourne first” in order to let Quade coach the club in 1982.

Finally, peace was restored. South played their home games at the SCG in 1982 on a fly-in basis under coach Quade and captain Round before the playing group relocated to Sydney ahead of the 1983 season.

It was the first step of an expansion program, which has subsequently seen two teams in WA, SA and Queensland, and a second team in Sydney.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby DOC » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:03 pm

Sydney coach John Longmire has always liked his list stacked with ruck options but a serious shoulder injury to Callum Sinclair in Saturday's 42-point win over Gold Coast means his big man cupboard is all but bare.

Sinclair dislocated his right shoulder in the opening minute of the Swans' win, and while he bravely attempted to play on after getting the injury strapped, he was helped from the field again on the quarter-time siren in agony after it popped out again.

The 29-year-old played no further part in the match and all signs point to Sinclair being unavailable for a couple of games at best, and the rest of the season at worst.

Adding to Longmire's headache is the fact that Sam Naismith (knee) hasn't played senior footy since 2017 and the promising Darcy Cameron (quad) is also injured.

That leaves Michael Knoll – the former SANFL ruckman picked up by Sydney in the mid-season draft – as the only fit player the coach can call on to replace Sinclair.

Sydney will anxiously await the results of Sinclair's scans ahead of next week's match against Essendon.

"It came out a couple of times so that's not ideal," Longmire said post-match.

"Sam has been training and looking terrific but the medical guys won't give him the go ahead just yet.

"Darcy has had a bad run this year, starting with a PCL (strain) in the pre-season and now a quad, so that's unfortunate for him and us.

"That's why we loaded up on ruckmen in the pre-season draft and mid-season draft because you can't have enough of them."

Knoll had 10 touches, 32 hit-outs and four tackles in Sydney's loss to the Suns in the NEAFL on Saturday, but Longmire said handing the responsibility of leading the Swans' ruck division at senior level to the newcomer might be too much.

"That's a big ask for someone to come in halfway through the year and do that, and he's still learning the game as well," he said.

"We're trying to teach him as quick as we can but whether he's up for AFL footy yet, we'll make that decision during the week."


Talk has intensified about the prospect of the League introducing a mid-season trade period between clubs from next season, a concept Longmire said he's a fan of.

"I've been on the aggressive side of (supporting the introduction of) that anyway," he said.

"With the trading of the picks we do now I think that's the start of it and I look forward to seeing where it goes.

"We'll get there, how long it takes I not sure, but it won't be this week."

Longmire even joked that he might contact Essendon counterpart John Worsfold over the next couple of days to make a gentlemen's agreement ahead of next week's clash at the MCG.

The Bombers lost their own ruckman Tom Bellchambers (calf) against Greater Western Sydney on Thursday night, so Longmire threw up some ways to deal with their ruck worries.

"Two mids in the middle (might be an idea), or rock, scissors, paper?" he said with a laugh.


So why did you recruit him then if it was not for this exact scenerio?
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:29 pm

Rapt to have horse sign on for 3 more years.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:49 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Rapt to have horse sign on for 3 more years.

So is the rest of the comp!
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Armchair expert » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Horse is terrible, he had Reid behind the ball in the last 5 minute when Swans needed to score

Youth is lacking too

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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:35 pm

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woodublieve12 wrote:Rapt to have horse sign on for 3 more years.

So is the rest of the comp!
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You'd have a fair idea what a basket case is...
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:37 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Horse is terrible, he had Reid behind the ball in the last 5 minute when Swans needed to score

Youth is lacking too

In for a world of hurt

yeah, nah....
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:45 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Rapt to have horse sign on for 3 more years.

So is the rest of the comp!
Embarrassed at home by the basket case Blues


You'd have a fair idea what a basket case is...

Yep and I can see you in the same situation
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Re: wubsy's Sydney thread

Postby Corona Man » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:47 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Horse is terrible, he had Reid behind the ball in the last 5 minute when Swans needed to score

Youth is lacking too

In for a world of hurt

yeah, nah....
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