wubsy's Sydney thread

[Lightning McQueen]

Well we at least earned our home finals the years we won a flag.

I did say the past 15 years

Didn't the cows go and flog you guys on your deck in 98 in a semi?

[Dutchy]

Media beating up how Sydney need to recruit to ensure they keep winning to keep their crowds, WTF? They average 30k and Sydney have had good support for 15+ years now and IMO they would have rusted on mature fan base that will stick with them, this isn't the 90's anymore FFS.

[Lightning McQueen]

REB endorses this post. Not sure why we had to go to Football Park in 1997 when we finished above the Crows on the ladder. That was a death sentence for us that year.

regards,

REB

Because you lost your ranking as the 7th placed team beat you, either way, should've been a Melbourne game.

For memory, they could only have a certain amount of finals games at the MCG per season?

[Booney]

Media beating up how Sydney need to recruit to ensure they keep winning to keep their crowds, WTF? They average 30k and Sydney have had good support for 15+ years now and IMO they would have rusted on mature fan base that will stick with them, this isn't the 90's anymore FFS.

Average crowds at the SCG, small sample size this year, granted.

2016 40,430
2017 34,475
2018 34,492
2019 29,675

See the chick putting make up on her boyfriend at the Sydney game? Mature....

[Jim05]

Media beating up how Sydney need to recruit to ensure they keep winning to keep their crowds, WTF? They average 30k and Sydney have had good support for 15+ years now and IMO they would have rusted on mature fan base that will stick with them, this isn't the 90's anymore FFS.

Sydney fans are amongst the most fickle in the world and their turn out for sporting events is quite poor normally.
A couple of bad years and the Swans will be playing in front of sub 20k crowds again

[Dutchy]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

[Corona Man]

Media beating up how Sydney need to recruit to ensure they keep winning to keep their crowds, WTF? They average 30k and Sydney have had good support for 15+ years now and IMO they would have rusted on mature fan base that will stick with them, this isn't the 90's anymore FFS.

Sydney fans are amongst the most fickle in the world and their turn out for sporting events is quite poor normally.
A couple of bad years and the Swans will be playing in front of sub 20k crowds again

Wouldn't surprise me if they are sub 20k by round 15 this season.

[woodublieve12]

Well we at least earned our home finals the years we won a flag.

I did say the past 15 years

Didn't the cows go and flog you guys on your deck in 98 in a semi?

and we knocked them off in Adelaide in the 2012 final series... When they were massive faves. Also the crows fans were nice enough to welcome the swans with a lovely song when we arrived at the airport

[woodublieve12]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

agreed

[Lightning McQueen]

and we knocked them off in Adelaide in the 2012 final series... When they were massive faves. Also the crows fans were nice enough to welcome the swans with a lovely song when we arrived at the airport

Yep, that was awesome!!!

[woodublieve12]

I guess finishing bottom doesn't sound to bad

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... oUtYjAxXko

[RB]

REB endorses this post. Not sure why we had to go to Football Park in 1997 when we finished above the Crows on the ladder. That was a death sentence for us that year.

regards,

REB

Because you lost your ranking as the 7th placed team beat you, either way, should've been a Melbourne game.

For memory, they could only have a certain amount of finals games at the MCG per season?

I thought it was a minimum number of finals games at the MCG, rather than a maximum, but I could be wrong.

I remember Adelaide in 2002 and Brisbane in 2004 being screwed over by this.

Also, I seem to recall that the finals system used in the AFL from circa 1994 to 1999 threw up a few strange scenarios where the higher-ranked team would travel to their second week opponent after losing in the first week.

The NRL retained the system for a while and I believe St. George Illawarra finished top in about 2009-ish, then had to play the Broncos away, of all tasks, after losing to the 8th-ranked team in the first week.

[Booney]

I guess finishing bottom doesn't sound to bad

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... oUtYjAxXko

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[Booney]

REB endorses this post. Not sure why we had to go to Football Park in 1997 when we finished above the Crows on the ladder. That was a death sentence for us that year.

regards,

REB

Because you lost your ranking as the 7th placed team beat you, either way, should've been a Melbourne game.

For memory, they could only have a certain amount of finals games at the MCG per season?

I thought it was a minimum number of finals games at the MCG, rather than a maximum, but I could be wrong.

I remember Adelaide in 2002 and Brisbane in 2004 being screwed over by this.

Also, I seem to recall that the finals system used in the AFL from circa 1994 to 1999 threw up a few strange scenarios where the higher-ranked team would travel to their second week opponent after losing in the first week.

The NRL retained the system for a while and I believe St. George Illawarra finished top in about 2009-ish, then had to play the Broncos away, of all tasks, after losing to the 8th-ranked team in the first week.

McIntyre Final 8


Round Match Name Team 1 Team 2
1
A 1st Qualifying Final Rank 4 v Rank 5
B 2nd Qualifying Final Rank 3 v Rank 6
C 3rd Qualifying Final Rank 2 v Rank 7
D 4th Qualifying Final Rank 1 v Rank 8


2
E 2nd Semi Final 4th highest ranked winner from A, B, C, D v 2nd highest ranked loser from A, B, C, D
F 1st Semi Final 3rd highest ranked winner from A, B, C, D v 1st highest ranked loser from A, B, C, D


3
G 2nd Preliminary Final 2nd highest ranked winner from A, B, C, D v Winner F
H 1st Preliminary Final 1st highest ranked winner from A, B, C, D v Winner E


4 I Grand Final Winner G v Winner H

[Lightning McQueen]

I guess finishing bottom doesn't sound to bad

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... oUtYjAxXko

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Likely No 1 draft pick Matt Rowell hailed ‘better than Sam Walsh’ could end up at Sydney
Jon Ralph, Herald Sun

It would be a classic Sydney drafting manoeuvre - missing finals for the first time in a decade and snaring a No.1 overall draft pick reminiscent of club legend Paul Kelly.

Sydney’s slump to the bottom of the ladder after seven rounds has them in contention for a player who would instantly rebuild their midfield - Oakleigh Chargers star Matt Rowell.

Rowell’s Chargers coach Leigh Clarke described midfielder Rowell in one word: “complete”.

A man who has seen Jordan de Goey, Shaun Higgins and Darcy Moore come through at Oakleigh said he was consistently blown away by Rowell’s consistency and will to win.






Sydney was able to steal Isaac Heeney for pick 18 in the 2014 national draft before securing Callum Mills and Nick Blakey as exceptional academy talent.

Rivals would be filthy if Sydney’s one trip down to the bottom of the ladder allowed them to secure a kid with such an extraordinary junior resume.


“With his attributes and traits he is as complete as I have seen,” Clarke told the Herald sun.

“He just never gets beaten. As a coach you would never doubt him.

“The biggest comparison I make of him comes from having grown up watching Paul Kelly from the Swans. Speaking to Swans recruiters and other players who played against him, Kel would just say, “Come on mate, you are having a bad day I will do it for you”.

“He has been best-on-ground in every game at the highest level. He was best on in the Grand Final last year, then an Australian (academy) game on AFL Grand Final day, then best-on in an Australian game again (against Casey) last month.”

Rowell had 31 possessions in the TAC Cup final and has this year averaged 159 ranking points in the NAB league as well as 28 possessions, 10 tackles and seven clearances.

Leigh Montagna says Rowell and his best mate Noah Anderson, rated the draft’s No. 2 pick, are seen by AFL recruiters as superior talents to Sam Walsh

Clarke says the boys are inseparable, Rowell the stoppage beast and Anderson the explosive midfielder whose three games for Calder have seen him amass 202, 215 and 137 ranking points.





Anderson has kicked eight goals and averaged 32 disposals in his three Calder games this year.

“They are the closest friends I have ever seen,” Clarke said.

“I have got older twin brothers and they have a real twin-type relationship. Anderson kicked 30 and had four goals and then 38 and kicked 2.2 so if you want someone to kick goals to win a game you might pick him but you could build a premiership off the back of someone like Rowell.”

Sydney could surge up the ladder when Lance Franklin returns but in a year where they won’t play finals securing Rowell would set up their next generation midfield.

[Booney]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

They're not going to bottom out or they're not going to bottom out to 20k crowds?

[Booney]

Well we at least earned our home finals the years we won a flag.

I did say the past 15 years

Didn't the cows go and flog you guys on your deck in 98 in a semi?

and we knocked them off in Adelaide in the 2012 final series... When they were massive faves. Also the crows fans were nice enough to welcome the swans with a lovely song when we arrived at the airport

Hendo still pops in here from time to time, doesn't he?

[Dutchy]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

They're not going to bottom out or they're not going to bottom out to 20k crowds?

Crowds

[Booney]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

They're not going to bottom out or they're not going to bottom out to 20k crowds?

Crowds

Agree with Jim, Sydney fans as fickle as they come. Already seeing a drop over the last 4 years.

[mots02]

Its not as if they are going to bottom out to sub 20k crowds IMO so I don;t see the concern.

They're not going to bottom out or they're not going to bottom out to 20k crowds?

Crowds

Agree with Jim, Sydney fans as fickle as they come. Already seeing a drop over the last 4 years.

Is that the pot calling the tarp black?