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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:01 pm

Booney wrote:North Melbourne are the first team in AFL/VFL history to lose 10 straight games by over 40 points.


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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:04 pm

Armchair expert wrote:
Booney wrote:North Melbourne are the first team in AFL/VFL history to lose 10 straight games by over 40 points.


Doesn't get any easier this week

Cats in Geelong


They'll probably end up on the 1 win for the year and that over a West Coast side who had players getting issued guernseys on the ground before the game.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 pm

Next year's number 1 draft pick will be praying he doesn't get picked at number 1 right now.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 pm

Next year's number 1 draft pick will be praying he doesn't get picked at number 1 right now.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:25 pm

Bum Crack wrote:Next year's number 1 draft pick will be praying he doesn't get picked at number 1 right now.


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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:49 pm

Armchair expert wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:Next year's number 1 draft pick will be praying he doesn't get picked at number 1 right now.


Father son to Brisbane according to the draft freaks
Ashcroft looking likely to be in the mix for the top couple and being spoken about as the pick 1 favourite. Some talk awhile back that he wasn’t keen on moving up to QLD and wouldn’t nominate as F/S but I think if your options are Brisbane or North you are changing your tune and nominating.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby stan » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:16 pm

Booney wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:
Booney wrote:North Melbourne are the first team in AFL/VFL history to lose 10 straight games by over 40 points.


Doesn't get any easier this week

Cats in Geelong


They'll probably end up on the 1 win for the year and that over a West Coast side who had players getting issued guernseys on the ground before the game.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby tigerpie » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:28 pm

I hope Archer comes on.
Made a couple of nervous errors from the little i saw but has the nutcase from dad.
Good size, maybe a little taller than dad, but he's just what north need.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:44 am

OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:24 pm

Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.

Good to hear after reading that he had some poor returns leading up to his AFL debut, I was hoping the higher level would bring the best out of himself, it's funny how that works.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby MW » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:00 pm

Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


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Re: North Melbourne

Postby cracka » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:06 pm

Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.

Only watched parts of the game but he certainly looked up to AFL standard
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby am Bays » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:17 pm

Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


This is all a bit weird as the in one way out the other - "paint the fence" - D50 to F50 transition has been an AFL tactic for about 10 years along with the change the angles of ball movement transition. I refuse to believe Noble doesn't know these tactics given his footy smarts and involvement in previous programs.

My guess is he's trying to pair it right back to contested footy and build that foundation and than progress to the ball movement transition as part of the next stage of the clubs development.

the flip side is I refuse to believe the payers aren't aware of any of the above tactics, We were teaching the defensive spread tactic to the Glenelg FC U/18s in 2016
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:41 pm

am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


This is all a bit weird as the in one way out the other - "paint the fence" - D50 to F50 transition has been an AFL tactic for about 10 years along with the change the angles of ball movement transition. I refuse to believe Noble doesn't know these tactics given his footy smarts and involvement in previous programs.

My guess is he's trying to pair it right back to contested footy and build that foundation and than progress to the ball movement transition as part of the next stage of the clubs development.

the flip side is I refuse to believe the payers aren't aware of any of the above tactics, We were teaching the defensive spread tactic to the Glenelg FC U/18s in 2016


I guess the issue North have is the spread works best when its done quickly which normally involves some form of confidence your team are going to win possession. This allows players outside of the contest to spread earlier and be that wider kick. At the moment I would think the Roos players severely lack confidence and therefore are playing very reactively.

Obviously there is also an element of work ethic and fitness involved. If your trying to spread with slower ball movement it requires players running in and out of the spaces and if they simply don't have the fitness levels they would fail as well.
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:42 pm

am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


This is all a bit weird as the in one way out the other - "paint the fence" - D50 to F50 transition has been an AFL tactic for about 10 years along with the change the angles of ball movement transition. I refuse to believe Noble doesn't know these tactics given his footy smarts and involvement in previous programs.

My guess is he's trying to pair it right back to contested footy and build that foundation and than progress to the ball movement transition as part of the next stage of the clubs development.

the flip side is I refuse to believe the payers aren't aware of any of the above tactics, We were teaching the defensive spread tactic to the Glenelg FC U/18s in 2016


Of course Noble knows this and the players do also, its either they don't have the confidence to execute or he is instructing them to play skinny - both are his responsibility. last year we could see structure and strategy, this year we can't.

FWIW I think the Crows are tracking OK, there is a lot to like about them if they can make some adjustments to their midfield set up they will be tapping on the 8 in the next couple of years IMO, I think the local media have been way too hard on them this year
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby am Bays » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:55 pm

So like @Booney, you've jumped off the coach.... ;)

You're not wanting anything drastic done straight away but your both not going to be unhappy when either Nobes or Kenny get the tap on the shoulder
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:00 pm

Always the coach, never the players ;)
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby mots02 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:03 pm

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


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Re: North Melbourne

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:47 pm

Dutchy wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:OK having witnessed the game on the weekend, it was a tough watch, there does seem to be a disconnect somewhere in the club and I guess that is why Walsh walked thru the doors this week.

We just play dumb footy, we consistently played down the line to the skinny side and the Crows knew this and just put number exactly where we were kicking it, there was one farcical moment where Xerri took a mark across half back/wing and I saw hit opponent ROB waltz forward 55m as a loose and guess where Xerri kicked it? :roll: We did not look to spread the ground/switch the ball or change the angles at all, IMO we are just trying to stop the bleeding but Id rather lose by 100 taking the game on than what we are doing currently.

When you lack confidence everything else falls apart pretty quickly and that is what we are facing, its going to be a long road back sadly.

On a positive note Jacko Archer was fantastic, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Curtis Taylor has shown good growth and Paul Curtis looks a real find.


This is all a bit weird as the in one way out the other - "paint the fence" - D50 to F50 transition has been an AFL tactic for about 10 years along with the change the angles of ball movement transition. I refuse to believe Noble doesn't know these tactics given his footy smarts and involvement in previous programs.

My guess is he's trying to pair it right back to contested footy and build that foundation and than progress to the ball movement transition as part of the next stage of the clubs development.

the flip side is I refuse to believe the payers aren't aware of any of the above tactics, We were teaching the defensive spread tactic to the Glenelg FC U/18s in 2016


Of course Noble knows this and the players do also, its either they don't have the confidence to execute or he is instructing them to play skinny - both are his responsibility. last year we could see structure and strategy, this year we can't.

FWIW I think the Crows are tracking OK, there is a lot to like about them if they can make some adjustments to their midfield set up they will be tapping on the 8 in the next couple of years IMO, I think the local media have been way too hard on them this year


sounds like the same rubbish game plan he had 20yrs ago
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Re: North Melbourne

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:54 pm

am Bays wrote:So like @Booney, you've jumped off the coach.... ;)

You're not wanting anything drastic done straight away but your both not going to be unhappy when either Nobes or Kenny get the tap on the shoulder


nah Im happy to support him, he showed he could coach at this level last year, if I was to have a guess I think he is over coaching the lads and they are fried with info - which would be easy to do in a full time environment.
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