2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

[Brodlach]

Only just noticed Port traded away a top 10 pick for 14 (plus other swaps)...looking forward to who Sydney pick at 9 now!

Obviously Sydney believe they need to get to 9 to get their played they have ID'd and Port believe there's will be there at 14.

Yeah and considering Crows have pick 13 it doesn't look like a SA lad otherwise the crows would get him? Just thought it was a bit strange to drop behind the crows in the draft considering that SA player scenario.

Simular when the Crows swapped picks 10 and 13 with Geelong. Crows got Lever and Geelong got Cockatoo

[Booney]

Melbourne delist Dawes, Newton and two Neville Nobodys.

[MW]

Only just noticed Port traded away a top 10 pick for 14 (plus other swaps)...looking forward to who Sydney pick at 9 now!

Obviously Sydney believe they need to get to 9 to get their played they have ID'd and Port believe there's will be there at 14.

Yeah and considering Crows have pick 13 it doesn't look like a SA lad otherwise the crows would get him? Just thought it was a bit strange to drop behind the crows in the draft considering that SA player scenario.

Simular when the Crows swapped picks 10 and 13 with Geelong. Crows got Lever and Geelong got Cockatoo

And wasn't that a media (advertiser) circus for the first 6 months

[Lightning McQueen]

Port only had like 1 pick in the top 45 or something to start with

Now they got 4 in the first 31 picks theyve done well

No they didn't, they had picks 9, 19, 30 & 49.

They now have 14, 17, 30 & 31.

I just put those numbers on keno, wish me luck!

Any good?

[cracka]

At the end of the day for a club of Adelaides size, it's support, its finances, it's 10 out and out home games a year etc to not play in a GF in 18 years is nothing short of an embarrassment and an out and out failure

Other clubs have had longer droughts, Central Districts for example.

It's an easy shot you've taken, Cracka but the point was not that they've not won premierships, but they've had the resources to do so and haven't achieved the ultimate.[/quote]
We've had the same resources all the other clubs have who also haven't achieved a flag recently. This obsession with the crows having the 2nd longest GF drought is laughable. What's worse, not winning a flag for 30 years but have played in a losing GF or actually having played in a winning GF within the last 20 years.

[Wedgie]

Port only had like 1 pick in the top 45 or something to start with

Now they got 4 in the first 31 picks theyve done well

No they didn't, they had picks 9, 19, 30 & 49.

They now have 14, 17, 30 & 31.

I just put those numbers on keno, wish me luck!

Any good?

Nup

[carey]

Only just noticed Port traded away a top 10 pick for 14 (plus other swaps)...looking forward to who Sydney pick at 9 now!

Obviously Sydney believe they need to get to 9 to get their played they have ID'd and Port believe there's will be there at 14.

100% correct one would think Dutch.

[kneedeepinthehoopla]

Biggest issue with Gibbs was he is worth X, Crows offered Carlton X + gravy as he is contracted, but Carlton wanted X plus the farm cause they are bitter about him wanting to leave.
Pretty simple to understand to most people except those who want to see the negative in how the Crows did it.

Bitter??!
What seems "simple to understand" is that folk like you are the only bitter ones here. Adelaide had every opportunity to employ Bryce but chose not to, and I think for people to see what Adelaide did as a negative would mean that Adelaide actually did something. My feel is that Adelaide were too sure they would get Gibbs.

[therisingblues]

I agree Kneedeep. First thing they did was blab to the media. Probably thought that would pressure Carlton and force their hand, it should've all been so easy.
Carlton were possibly in negotiations with Gibbs, can't say for sure, but obviously the Crow media tactic pissed them off greatly. Can't help but think the Blues have strengthened their hand for future trades.

[clanger]

Biggest issue with Gibbs was he is worth X, Crows offered Carlton X + gravy as he is contracted, but Carlton wanted X plus the farm cause they are bitter about him wanting to leave.
Pretty simple to understand to most people except those who want to see the negative in how the Crows did it.

Bitter??!
What seems "simple to understand" is that folk like you are the only bitter ones here. Adelaide had every opportunity to employ Bryce but chose not to, and I think for people to see what Adelaide did as a negative would mean that Adelaide actually did something. My feel is that Adelaide were too sure they would get Gibbs.

no need to get upset and are you trying to say Carlton were not upset with Byrce requesting a trade so late because i think every club would be in this scenario and before you go nuts at me i totally understand the position Carlton took because i would want Adelaide to do exactly the same in this situation.

[therisingblues]

People must either nuts or bitter to question Adelaide's sense of entitlement it seems.

[MW]

Biggest issue with Gibbs was he is worth X, Crows offered Carlton X + gravy as he is contracted, but Carlton wanted X plus the farm cause they are bitter about him wanting to leave.
Pretty simple to understand to most people except those who want to see the negative in how the Crows did it.

Bitter??!
What seems "simple to understand" is that folk like you are the only bitter ones here. Adelaide had every opportunity to employ Bryce but chose not to, and I think for people to see what Adelaide did as a negative would mean that Adelaide actually did something. My feel is that Adelaide were too sure they would get Gibbs.

You don't think Carlton were bitter about Gibbs requesting a trade?

[gadj1976]

As a lifelong Blues supporter I'm torn. Part of me is really happy the deal didn't go ahead because 1. we stuck to our guns. last year we didn't with Yarran. 2. he was contracted, so we did need to trade hardball. 3. he stays a blue.

BUT, if Carlton knew he needed to go home because of serious health conditions relating to his wife, then there is a duty of care as an employer to allow him to go home.

So, the washup is that he stays. If he plays well this year, the Crows will know they're in for another battle at trade time, although they also know that with only two years on his contract, and being 29, the Blues will be more likely to trade with a first and second rounder, if that. If he doesn't play well, then obviously it'll be less than a first and second rounder.

I can't see this going well to be honest. If his mind isn't on the job (and let's face it, under Malthouse, it wasn't) then he may well have an ordinary year and the Crows could snaffle him for a second rounder come this time next year.

People slag Gibbs but he's exactly what the Crows need. A solid finisher. When you had Dangerfield, the knock on him was his finishing. He got ball but didn't finish. Gibbs finishes.

Are the same people who slagged the Crows for getting Betts now slagging the reasoning behind trying to get Gibbs?

[MW]

I think most know Gibbs is a quality player but at 28 next season, he is not worth two 1st rd picks regardless of any contract he is currently in. Blues knew that, and their worst case was they keep him which is fair enough and that's what happened. For their sake, lets hope Gibbs can put it behind him and play good footy as others have in the past when this has happened. BUT if he plays shit or decides to sit out footy, then SOS has a lot of explaining to do to his members considering they had a bloody good offer on the table for him.
Not sure Betts and Gibbs scenarios are worth comparing TBH. Crows offered Betts a free agency contract and Blues didnt match cause they were too invested in Daisy Thomas.

[gadj1976]

I think most know Gibbs is a quality player but at 28 next season, he is not worth two 1st rd picks regardless of any contract he is currently in. Blues knew that, and their worst case was they keep him which is fair enough and that's what happened. For their sake, lets hope Gibbs can put it behind him and play good footy as others have in the past when this has happened. BUT if he plays shit or decides to sit out footy, then SOS has a lot of explaining to do to his members considering they had a bloody good offer on the table for him.
Not sure Betts and Gibbs scenarios are worth comparing TBH. Crows offered Betts a free agency contract and Blues didnt match cause they were too invested in Daisy Thomas.

I'm not saying the situations are comparable, I'm having a dig at Crows supporters who weren't happy about going after Betts at 500k or whatever it was a the time, and there were PLENTY. I remember saying to my mates that in a good side with good fowards, he will be a gun, and at 500k (approx) he'll be a gun. He only had Fev to crumb to at Carlton and the delivery wasn't as frequent and good a quality as it could be around Tex and Jerka. Now look at Crows supporters, if they could, they'd pay him a mill a year!

All I was saying is that good players play better in good sides. Gibbs would be that outside gun you're after. In our side, he has to play several roles, not many of them suited to his game style. Oh well, time will tell hey?

Gibbs averaged very good stats in an ordinary side. If he were to play in a good side, get forward of the footy with confidence in your teammates and he could be anything.

[Jim05]

The Crows offered him a 5 year deal so they obviously think he is worth it

[gadj1976]

The Crows offered him a 5 year deal so they obviously think he is worth it

Gibbs?

They might've offered that but they didn't come to the party for us, so I'm half glad we stood our ground.

[bennymacca]

Can't believe people are saying it's a failure we didn't get Gibbs. They wanted two bloody first rounders!!

The same people would be on here saying the crows got screwed if we paid that.

[cracka]

People must either nuts or bitter to question Adelaide's sense of entitlement it seems.

You know how when a crows supporter goes on the no AFL in the SANFL thread & gets told he "just doesn't get it". This is a case of you just don't get it.

[cracka]

Can't believe people are saying it's a failure we didn't get Gibbs. They wanted two bloody first rounders!!

The same people would be on here saying the crows got screwed if we paid that.

I cant believe its still being talked about just because its the crows. Any other clubs & its over with