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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:59 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


That is probably the most reasoned response you're going to get on this topic.
That works for me.


See, now I just don't know. I'm a bit like Benny. Very mixed feelings on this.

The fact Jason Ball was on the panel that made the decision gives me comfort about the integrity of the decision-making and that the right decision was made - at this point.
I suspect there is a fair bit of work to be done in this area before transgender women will be allowed to compete in AFLW.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:04 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


That is probably the most reasoned response you're going to get on this topic.
That works for me.


See, now I just don't know. I'm a bit like Benny. Very mixed feelings on this.

The fact Jason Ball was on the panel that made the decision gives me comfort about the integrity of the decision-making and that the right decision was made - at this point.
I suspect there is a fair bit of work to be done in this area before transgender women will be allowed to compete in AFLW.


Given the person involved is still transitioning I think the AFL has made the right decision here.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:06 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


That is probably the most reasoned response you're going to get on this topic.
That works for me.


See, now I just don't know. I'm a bit like Benny. Very mixed feelings on this.

The fact Jason Ball was on the panel that made the decision gives me comfort about the integrity of the decision-making and that the right decision was made - at this point.
I suspect there is a fair bit of work to be done in this area before transgender women will be allowed to compete in AFLW.

Should never be raised again IMO, two years ago this chick was a bloke representing Australia in a different sport.

I'm all for equality and I don't care what sexual preferences anyone has but perhaps they should start looking at sports as men's, women's and other.

It is not an even playing field.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby The Bedge » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:06 am

morell wrote:There are more feminine footballers at Ingle Farm

There was actually a player this year for our womens side who was apparently a transgender - I don't know if it's true or just people making crap up.. definitely looks "man like".

A few of our women players are leaving next year because they said they didn't feel comfortable with her being in the side, getting changed in front of her etc. but none the less everyone accepted him/her and tolerated the situation if that makes sense lol.

As accepting and tolerant as society may have become, these are still quite confronting situations to most people and will take a lot of getting used to.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:08 am

The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:There are more feminine footballers at Ingle Farm

There was actually a player this year for our womens side who was apparently a transgender - I don't know if it's true or just people making crap up.. definitely looks "man like".

A few of our women players are leaving next year because they said they didn't feel comfortable with her being in the side, getting changed in front of her etc. but none the less everyone accepted him/her and tolerated the situation if that makes sense lol.

As accepting and tolerant as society may have become, these are still quite confronting situations to most people and will take a lot of getting used to.

Difference there was the said person was a first class "bench warmer".
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:10 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


That is probably the most reasoned response you're going to get on this topic.
That works for me.


See, now I just don't know. I'm a bit like Benny. Very mixed feelings on this.

The fact Jason Ball was on the panel that made the decision gives me comfort about the integrity of the decision-making and that the right decision was made - at this point.
I suspect there is a fair bit of work to be done in this area before transgender women will be allowed to compete in AFLW.

Should never be raised again IMO, two years ago this chick was a bloke representing Australia in a different sport.

I'm all for equality and I don't care what sexual preferences anyone has but perhaps they should start looking at sports as men's, women's and other.

It is not an even playing field.


Other?
Yeah I’m sure that’ll get passed at their next meeting. ;)

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:17 am

Balic to the Dees for pick 66
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:18 am

Reports that Carlton and Adelaide have opened dialogue re Gibbs. This might also help Cameron get to Brisbane.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:21 am

Crows want Zorko for Cameron... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:21 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Crows want Zorko for Cameron... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can only ask :lol:


Surely that’s just media hype
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:22 am

Brodlach wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Crows want Zorko for Cameron... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can only ask :lol:


Surely that’s just media hype


You’d hope so.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby bennymacca » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:28 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Crows want Zorko for Cameron... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:


yeah no way thats believable.

shits me that there is no attribution to any source in any of that sort of stuff.

having said that, if we sent 10, 16 and cameron to brisbane for zorko - ill be happy with that :D
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby hawks21 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:44 am

PatowalongaPirate wrote:Reports that Carlton and Adelaide have opened dialogue re Gibbs. This might also help Cameron get to Brisbane.

or Crows/Carlton know what pick they will get from Brisbane which is being used as bargaining power? I think it will end up being 12 & 16 for Gibbs & 2nd round 2018
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:47 am

hawks21 wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Reports that Carlton and Adelaide have opened dialogue re Gibbs. This might also help Cameron get to Brisbane.

or Crows/Carlton know what pick they will get from Brisbane which is being used as bargaining power? I think it will end up being 12 & 16 for Gibbs & 2nd round 2018

So you think more wanna go to Port?
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:51 am

Hopefully we do something!


Get Francis in please
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:55 am

10 and 16 for Gibbs?

Massive overs IMO.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:58 am

morell wrote:10 and 16 for Gibbs?

Massive overs IMO.


Gibbs + 2018 2nd rd pick
still agree its overs
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:58 am

Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


That is probably the most reasoned response you're going to get on this topic.
That works for me.


See, now I just don't know. I'm a bit like Benny. Very mixed feelings on this.

The fact Jason Ball was on the panel that made the decision gives me comfort about the integrity of the decision-making and that the right decision was made - at this point.
I suspect there is a fair bit of work to be done in this area before transgender women will be allowed to compete in AFLW.


Given the person involved is still transitioning I think the AFL has made the right decision here.
Agreed. In the future, who knows, she might get there, but right now it's clearly too early in that process.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:00 pm

MW wrote:
morell wrote:10 and 16 for Gibbs?

Massive overs IMO.


Gibbs + 2018 2nd rd pick
still agree its overs


also I think ADEL are banking on 12 for Cameron to soften the blow of losing 10 & 16 this year.

so effectively it would be:

OUT: Cameron, 10 & 16
IN: Gibbs, 12, 2018 2nd rd pick
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:10 pm

Brodlach wrote:Hopefully we do something!


Get Francis in please

Put a first on the table and we might start talking
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