A Graders

[bennymacca]

In the $39.95 AFL prospectus.

Not out yet isn't it?

Got it last year, my son practically memorized it, at least I knew where to find it when I wanted to look something up.

Nah won’t be out till feb

I reckon the best thing they do is the relative ratings - gives you an indication about how good a player is compared with similar players in both age and position.

Ie Someone like Matt Crouch was overall average I think but was tracking 30% above midfielders of his age.

That number will skyrocket after his season

[bennymacca]

How do we define A Graders?

How would I define it? One or more of the following


- Ranked as elite by champion data - they know what they are talking about.
- Multiple All Australians or at least somewhere close to the mark (i.e multiple 40 man squads)
- High up in their clubs best and fairest consistently

Where do we find such info?

In the $39.95 AFL prospectus.

Plus $10 postage if you wanna get it early like I did

[Booney]

Bold added


Adelaide - Betts, Sloane, Laird ( Walker, Lynch, Talia, Jacobs, M.Crouch )
Brisbane - Zorko ( Beams )
Carlton - Cripps ( Murphy )
Collingwood - Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Treloar ( Grundy )
Essendon - Hurley, Daniher ( Merrett, McGrath )
Fremantle - Fyfe, Neale
Gold Coast - Lynch ( May )
GWS - Greene, Scully, Shiel, Kelly ( Whitfield, Coniglio, Patton )
Geelong - Dangerfield, Selwood, Ablett, Taylor ( Duncan, Tuohy )
Hawthorn - Roughead, Mitchell, Burgoyne ( Burton )
Melbourne - Gawn, Oliver, Viney ( Petracca, Hogan )
North Melbourne - Brown, Cunnington ( Higgins, Tarrant )
Port Adelaide - R.Gray, Wingard, Wines, Ryder ( Dixon, Ebert )
Richmond - Martin, Cotchin, Rance ( Houli, Prestia, Riewoldt, Caddy )
St Kilda - Ross ( Steven, Carlisle )
Sydney - Franklin, Kennedy, Parker, Hannebery ( Heeney, Jones, Rampe )
West Coast - McGovern, Naitanui, Kennedy ( Shuey )
Western Bulldogs - Bontempelli ( Wood )[/quote]

[Lightning McQueen]

Connor Tuohy is an interesting addition, has definitely been a big improver since adding a bit more white to his guernsey.

Do we allow St. Nick a pass going by 2017 players?

I wonder if we have a full compliment of positions to fill a side?

[Lightning McQueen]

Jeremy Cameron?

[Booney]

Jeremy Cameron?

Interesting, isn't it.

There's 45 in my list and 34 in brackets.

If clubs average 39 on their list ( 39x18 = 702 ) and we've got 79 on our list are we saying over 10% of players are "A graders"?

[Lightning McQueen]

Jeremy Cameron?

Interesting, isn't it.

There's 45 in my list and 34 in brackets.

If clubs average 39 on their list ( 39x18 = 702 ) and we've got 79 on our list are we saying over 10% of players are "A graders"?

Hence my initial question.

Is there a specific number?
Do we hand A's out too easily?
Are the such things as D & E Grade players?

[morell]

I agree with bennymacca

Multiple AA's
Multiple top 5 BnFs in good sides
Multiple top 20 finishes in Coaches MVP and / or media awards

I reckon we could concoct a scale! Shall we call it...

safooty weighted agrade metric?

[Booney]

That's why my list was short with (??) as I think the term "A grade" is thrown around too easily.

[Booney]

I agree with bennymacca

Multiple AA's
Multiple top 5 BnFs in good sides
Multiple top 20 finishes in Coaches MVP and / or media awards

I reckon we could concoct a scale! Shall we call it...

safooty weighted agrade metric?

Thread. ******.

[Lightning McQueen]

I agree with bennymacca

Multiple AA's
Multiple top 5 BnFs in good sides
Multiple top 20 finishes in Coaches MVP and / or media awards

I reckon we could concoct a scale! Shall we call it...

safooty weighted agrade metric?

Totes

[morell]

McGoats

[bennymacca]

AFL player Ratings

From memory this is a rolling average of their last 40 games. Some interesting names there. Some we might scoff at but might give an indication of a players underlying value.

Mids
Danger
Dusty
Pendles
Kennedy
Sloane
Zorko
Treloar
Neale
Bontempelli
Joel Selwood

Key defender
Rance
McGovern
McDonald
Lever
May


Small/medium Defender
Burgoyne
Williams
Rich
Howe
Hurn


Key Forward
Franklin
Kennedy
Tom J Lynch
Westhoff
Daniher

Mid/forward
Gray
Heeney
Shane Edwards
Douglas
Daniel

Small/medium forward
Greene
Betts
Petracca
Wingard
Tom T Lynch

Ruck
Gawn
Goldstein
McEvoy
Grundy
Mumford


First year players
SPP
Hannan
McGrath
Petrevski seton
Tom Stewart

[morell]

The problem is the metrics they use are position dependent, but then they have players in completely the wrong role, Westhoff being the best example. One of the best KPF's in the game based on the fact he gets lots of disposals and marks, but we all know that aint anything close to reality.

[Corona Man]

All I know, going by the SA media, that the Crows have 40 of them.

Don't we have 42 on the list, who missed out

I'm taking into account that the Tiser referred to one of their own as "steak knives"...

[Turbo]

I'd put Docherty in our list

[Wedgie]

Connor Tuohy is an interesting addition, has definitely been a big improver since adding a bit more white to his guernsey.

Do we allow St. Nick a pass going by 2017 players?

I wonder if we have a full compliment of positions to fill a side?

Who's Connor Tuohy?

[Turbo]

And probably Kreuzer

[Brodlach]

Pfft failed thread when Josh Jenkins doesn’t get a mention

[Corona Man]

Pfft failed thread when Josh Jenkins doesn’t get a mention

Think that's the A grade potatoes thread.