St Kilda

[JK]

You blokes missed the point. All the players I listed will be better playing in a team that doesn't rely on individual talent but rather plays a brand of football that puts team first with a strong coach. Maybe the reason the saints are deemed to be a home for little cloggers is because of the way in which the players have been coached over the last decade. I mean Watters and Richardson hardly set the world on fire before Ratten came in, clearly something went wrong in the second half of this year.

FWIW I reckon you're right mate. Loved Ratt's as a player and seems like a great bloke, not sold on him as a coach though. And for all those that like to pot Ross, he took 2 unlikely (historically) teams to GF's and sure they didn't win a flag, but no shame in losing to those Geelong and Hawthorn sides, nor Collingwood in 2010, albeit a freak bounce of the ball possibly the only reason they didn't get it done. The bloke is proven imho.

[mighty_tiger_79]

You blokes missed the point. All the players I listed will be better playing in a team that doesn't rely on individual talent but rather plays a brand of football that puts team first with a strong coach. Maybe the reason the saints are deemed to be a home for little cloggers is because of the way in which the players have been coached over the last decade. I mean Watters and Richardson hardly set the world on fire before Ratten came in, clearly something went wrong in the second half of this year.

FWIW I reckon you're right mate. Loved Ratt's as a player and seems like a great bloke, not sold on him as a coach though. And for all those that like to pot Ross, he took 2 unlikely (historically) teams to GF's and sure they didn't win a flag, but no shame in losing to those Geelong and Hawthorn sides, nor Collingwood in 2010, albeit a freak bounce of the ball possibly the only reason they didn't get it done. The bloke is proven imho.

Saints were the best side in 09

[tigerpie]

You would think the last thing the Saints need is another St Kilda person

Especially when him and his new coaching group have only ever came second.
They just couldn't get it done on the day yet they're going back to the dry well.

[Spargo]

You blokes missed the point. All the players I listed will be better playing in a team that doesn't rely on individual talent but rather plays a brand of football that puts team first with a strong coach. Maybe the reason the saints are deemed to be a home for little cloggers is because of the way in which the players have been coached over the last decade. I mean Watters and Richardson hardly set the world on fire before Ratten came in, clearly something went wrong in the second half of this year.

FWIW I reckon you're right mate. Loved Ratt's as a player and seems like a great bloke, not sold on him as a coach though. And for all those that like to pot Ross, he took 2 unlikely (historically) teams to GF's and sure they didn't win a flag, but no shame in losing to those Geelong and Hawthorn sides, nor Collingwood in 2010, albeit a freak bounce of the ball possibly the only reason they didn't get it done. The bloke is proven imho.

Saints were the best side in 09

They were beaten by the luckiest toe poke in GF history in 2009 & the unluckiest bounce in GF history in 2010. I know a couple of Saints supporters still haven’t got over what went on in the prelim at Footy Pk in 2004…
People seem to forget this.

[Dirty dog]

You blokes missed the point. All the players I listed will be better playing in a team that doesn't rely on individual talent but rather plays a brand of football that puts team first with a strong coach. Maybe the reason the saints are deemed to be a home for little cloggers is because of the way in which the players have been coached over the last decade. I mean Watters and Richardson hardly set the world on fire before Ratten came in, clearly something went wrong in the second half of this year.

FWIW I reckon you're right mate. Loved Ratt's as a player and seems like a great bloke, not sold on him as a coach though. And for all those that like to pot Ross, he took 2 unlikely (historically) teams to GF's and sure they didn't win a flag, but no shame in losing to those Geelong and Hawthorn sides, nor Collingwood in 2010, albeit a freak bounce of the ball possibly the only reason they didn't get it done. The bloke is proven imho.

Saints were the best side in 09

They were beaten by the luckiest toe poke in GF history in 2009 & the unluckiest bounce in GF history in 2010. I know a couple of Saints supporters still haven’t got over what went on in the prelim at Footy Pk in 2004…
People seem to forget this.

I named my dog The G~Train

[oldman]

In the 09 GF St Kilda had :
King, Montagna, Riewoldt, Milne, Hayes, Dal Santo, Ball, Goddard, Fisher, Koschitzke

In the 13 GF Fremantle had :
Sandilands, Hill, Pavlich, Mundy, Crowley, McPharlin, Johnson, Mayne, Barlow, Neale

For mine those mentioned trump the current St Kilda list.

Marshall, Steele, Gresham, Sinclair, Hill, Clarke, Coffield, Billings, Owens, Windhager, King, Membrey, Higgins, Battle, Howard

I don't see that Membrey, Higgins, Howard, Marshall or Hill have any improvement in them.

I agree that the 09 GF team appears to be better however that's looking back on finished careers. It is possible that the current group could emulate the 09 group if coached correctly and given the time to do so.

[saintal]

You blokes missed the point. All the players I listed will be better playing in a team that doesn't rely on individual talent but rather plays a brand of football that puts team first with a strong coach. Maybe the reason the saints are deemed to be a home for little cloggers is because of the way in which the players have been coached over the last decade. I mean Watters and Richardson hardly set the world on fire before Ratten came in, clearly something went wrong in the second half of this year.

FWIW I reckon you're right mate. Loved Ratt's as a player and seems like a great bloke, not sold on him as a coach though. And for all those that like to pot Ross, he took 2 unlikely (historically) teams to GF's and sure they didn't win a flag, but no shame in losing to those Geelong and Hawthorn sides, nor Collingwood in 2010, albeit a freak bounce of the ball possibly the only reason they didn't get it done. The bloke is proven imho.

Saints were the best side in 09

They were beaten by the luckiest toe poke in GF history in 2009 & the unluckiest bounce in GF history in 2010. I know a couple of Saints supporters still haven’t got over what went on in the prelim at Footy Pk in 2004…
People seem to forget this.

Erm thanks for bringing those up Attended all three games and remember them as though they were only yesterday

[Booney]

After returning from his ACL Jack Hayes has broken a bone in his foot and will miss 10 weeks.

[whufc]

After returning from his ACL Jack Hayes has broken a bone in his foot and will miss 10 weeks.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Nick riewoldt vs Brett Ratten

[mal]

Ross Lyon is a very good coach , he got SK and FR into Grand Finals

[mal]

SK finish 6th with 13 wins
Another very good result for a Ross Lyon team

[whufc]

SK finish 6th with 13 wins
Another very good result for a Ross Lyon team

Agree... he's not everyone's cup of tea due to the style of football but its hard to deny his record of improving football sides which all a coach can do.

[saintal]

Jack Sinclair takes home the Trevor Barker Award (B+F) for the second straight year

J. Sinclair 237 votes
C. Wilkie 228
R. Marshall 205
M. Owens 172
N. Wanganeen-Milera 164
B. Crouch 142
B. Hill 142
J. Higgins 119
J. Steele 118
J. Battle 115

[mal]

Past president Andrew Plympton
RIP aged 74
A man of several talents