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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:33 am

Brodlach wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:You always advise the unsuccessful applicants 1st, then deal with the successful applicant, this is basic business.


Really??

All businesses i have worked in are the opposite. You need the successful applicant to accept the job, before you start letting others know they haven't got it.

Just because the successful applicant is successful doesn't meant they always take the job. The $$$ might not be right, the finer contract T&C's may not work, another offer in between may have come.


Dutchy wouldn’t know the correct way because North didn’t interview anyone and just gave the job to the first person they laid eyes on


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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby cracka » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:36 am

Dutchy wrote:You always advise the unsuccessful applicants 1st, then deal with the successful applicant, this is basic business.

Really. Would hate to count how many times if seen the words "unsuccessful applicants will not be contacted" on job ads
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby MW » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:36 am

Brodlach wrote:
whufc wrote:
Dutchy wrote:You always advise the unsuccessful applicants 1st, then deal with the successful applicant, this is basic business.


Really??

All businesses i have worked in are the opposite. You need the successful applicant to accept the job, before you start letting others know they haven't got it.

Just because the successful applicant is successful doesn't meant they always take the job. The $$$ might not be right, the finer contract T&C's may not work, another offer in between may have come.


Dutchy wouldn’t know the correct way because North didn’t interview anyone and just gave the job to the first person they laid eyes on


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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:48 am

I'd go the successful applicant first, too.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:49 am

So when is it being announced?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:51 am

cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:You always advise the unsuccessful applicants 1st, then deal with the successful applicant, this is basic business.

Really. Would hate to count how many times if seen the words "unsuccessful applicants will not be contacted" on job ads


Probably Fagan's out here, he probably put that on their ad!

Iv have recruited many staff and always taught to notify the unsuccessful ones first, there is no issue in going back to them if the successful candidate refuses your offer.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:55 am

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I did have it happen once where the business told me i was unsuccesful only for their number 1 to fall through on company car details.

They rang me a week later and were really honest i was number 2 but now they wanted me.

Dont worry i stretched it out......and then positioned myself to take every cent available because i knew their 2 other applicants were miles below my level so they couldnt really afford not to take me now.


So you accepted the job, this is exactly how it should work.

Fagan just needs to call Yze and let him know he missed out, provide some feedback on why he wasn't successful and let him know should Nicks not accept the role we will be back in touch, not real hard!

Now the Crows look completely unprofessional.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:57 am

Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
I did have it happen once where the business told me i was unsuccesful only for their number 1 to fall through on company car details.

They rang me a week later and were really honest i was number 2 but now they wanted me.

Dont worry i stretched it out......and then positioned myself to take every cent available because i knew their 2 other applicants were miles below my level so they couldnt really afford not to take me now.


So you accepted the job, this is exactly how it should work.

Fagan just needs to call Yze and let him know he missed out, provide some feedback on why he wasn't successful and let him know should Nicks not accept the role we will be back in touch, not real hard!

No the Crows look completely unprofessional.


I took it at 15k more than they offered, knowing the pickle they were in and made them wait an extra two weeks while i took my time to redecide.

Absolute shit way to do if for the company who had so much more added stress on their end by doing it.

From that point never really bought into the organisation and jumped at the next best offer straight away.

Always, always, always make sure you have the succesful applicant signed, sealed, delivered first.

To bad in your scenario if Yze takes another assistant position elsewhere in the meanwhile whilst thinking he doesnt have the job.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:00 am

Put simply you dont have unsuccessful applicants if you dont have a person signed and sealed for the role.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby MW » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:00 am

Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
I did have it happen once where the business told me i was unsuccesful only for their number 1 to fall through on company car details.

They rang me a week later and were really honest i was number 2 but now they wanted me.

Dont worry i stretched it out......and then positioned myself to take every cent available because i knew their 2 other applicants were miles below my level so they couldnt really afford not to take me now.


So you accepted the job, this is exactly how it should work.

Fagan just needs to call Yze and let him know he missed out, provide some feedback on why he wasn't successful and let him know should Nicks not accept the role we will be back in touch, not real hard!

Now the Crows look completely unprofessional.


You are actually embarrassing yourself today.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:01 am

Yze is signed at Hawks for 3 more years and every Assistant has a Head Coach out clause. He would take the job in a heart beat.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:02 am

Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
I did have it happen once where the business told me i was unsuccesful only for their number 1 to fall through on company car details.

They rang me a week later and were really honest i was number 2 but now they wanted me.

Dont worry i stretched it out......and then positioned myself to take every cent available because i knew their 2 other applicants were miles below my level so they couldnt really afford not to take me now.


So you accepted the job, this is exactly how it should work.

Fagan just needs to call Yze and let him know he missed out, provide some feedback on why he wasn't successful and let him know should Nicks not accept the role we will be back in touch, not real hard!

Now the Crows look completely unprofessional.


They would look very unprofessional if Yze knew Nicks had the job before Nicks did.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:02 am

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
I did have it happen once where the business told me i was unsuccesful only for their number 1 to fall through on company car details.

They rang me a week later and were really honest i was number 2 but now they wanted me.

Dont worry i stretched it out......and then positioned myself to take every cent available because i knew their 2 other applicants were miles below my level so they couldnt really afford not to take me now.


So you accepted the job, this is exactly how it should work.

Fagan just needs to call Yze and let him know he missed out, provide some feedback on why he wasn't successful and let him know should Nicks not accept the role we will be back in touch, not real hard!

Now the Crows look completely unprofessional.


You are actually embarrassing yourself today.


Instead of taking potshots how about telling us how you would handle it?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:04 am

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They would look very unprofessional if Yze knew Nicks had the job before Nicks did.


Compared to how they look at the moment? :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am

Dutchy wrote:
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They would look very unprofessional if Yze knew Nicks had the job before Nicks did.


Compared to how they look at the moment? :lol:


In your eyes, without much support on here one would suggest.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby MW » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:08 am

Dutchy I've already explained how I would do it. Take the blinkers off. Having this much hatred must be debilitating...
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:16 am

I have not hate towards the Crows, just discussing how they have handled this process. Many aren't happy with it, you are. Life would be boring if we all agreed.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Spargo » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:27 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
They would look very unprofessional if Yze knew Nicks had the job before Nicks did.


Compared to how they look at the moment? :lol:


In your eyes, without much support on here one would suggest.

Not having support on here (of all places :lol:) doesn’t mean you’re wrong.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:30 am

Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
They would look very unprofessional if Yze knew Nicks had the job before Nicks did.


Compared to how they look at the moment? :lol:


In your eyes, without much support on here one would suggest.

Not having support on here (of all places :lol:) doesn’t mean you’re wrong.


Most certainly does not, but I'd say ( even given Dutchy's business prowess ) enough people in here have been in / out of positions in their professional lives to know how they would handle the hiring of someone.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019

Postby Mythical Creature » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:34 am

Our local footy club is looking for a coach and I can say for certain that we will let the successful applicant know first (tell him to give us a day before announcing to the world) then we will inform the unsuccessful applicants as the second step.
I'm comfortable if someone thinks this is "wrong", it won't change our process.
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