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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:16 am

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:Must admit I did like the runner / trainers rule, felt the field had go too messy with 36 players, 3 field, 4 boundary and countless runners and trainers on the field, it was noticeable that there was less red/orange/yellow vests on the field and I suspect live this weekend will be more apparent.

Felt more like soccer with the boards on the sidelines.

Also how are you supposed to get an important message out urgently? What if you need to change a match up, and change something randomly that you haven't got a coloured board for?


Send a message out with the player rotating onto the field if need be.

I like it, it makes the leaders more important.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:23 am

If the coach wants to use a runner he should be allowed to but it counts as a rotation, I think that Is fair.

I have no issue with the current rule though, still plenty of people on the bench to yell at
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:24 am

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:We learnt Jack Watts is suddenly a superstar.
Played nearly 200 ordinary games but gives a post match speech and everything is forgiven.
Turn it up!!


If he was taken pick 30+ he'd be seen as a footballer with 173 AFL games under his belt.


But he wasn’t!
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:24 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:We learnt Jack Watts is suddenly a superstar.
Played nearly 200 ordinary games but gives a post match speech and everything is forgiven.
Turn it up!!


If he was taken pick 30+ he'd be seen as a footballer with 173 AFL games under his belt.


But he wasn’t!


That's not his doing though, is it?
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:25 am

Armchair expert wrote:If the coach wants to use a runner he should be allowed to but it counts as a rotation, I think that Is fair.

I have no issue with the current rule though, still plenty of people on the bench to yell at


I like that idea.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:If the coach wants to use a runner he should be allowed to but it counts as a rotation, I think that Is fair.

I have no issue with the current rule though, still plenty of people on the bench to yell at


I like that idea.


Agreed.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 am

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:We learnt Jack Watts is suddenly a superstar.
Played nearly 200 ordinary games but gives a post match speech and everything is forgiven.
Turn it up!!


If he was taken pick 30+ he'd be seen as a footballer with 173 AFL games under his belt.


But he wasn’t!


That's not his doing though, is it?


No.
But the no. 1 pick comes with more scrutiny, that’s just how it is.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:30 am

Armchair expert wrote:If the coach wants to use a runner he should be allowed to but it counts as a rotation, I think that Is fair.

I have no issue with the current rule though, still plenty of people on the bench to yell at

Chuck in the fact that they have leadership groups and captains of each zone I think the less amount of people on the field the better, surely they can work it out themselves.

Back in the day the runner usually was there to drag someone on make a positional change, with the placards and pre-meditated rotations the role is pretty much redundant, you don't need to go tell an AFL player to lift his chin and worry about the next one.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby LMA » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:We learnt Jack Watts is suddenly a superstar.
Played nearly 200 ordinary games but gives a post match speech and everything is forgiven.
Turn it up!!


If he was taken pick 30+ he'd be seen as a footballer with 173 AFL games under his belt.


But he wasn’t!


At least he hasnt played the mental health card when he has ****** up off field, respect must be given there
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:42 pm

LMA wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:We learnt Jack Watts is suddenly a superstar.
Played nearly 200 ordinary games but gives a post match speech and everything is forgiven.
Turn it up!!


If he was taken pick 30+ he'd be seen as a footballer with 173 AFL games under his belt.


But he wasn’t!


At least he hasnt played the mental health card when he has ****** up off field, respect must be given there


He did more in the off season that deserves respect.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:52 pm

Geelong are the real deal, a win over here this week would certainly place them in a group of their own for now.
Lions will be the big improvers for the season, will just miss the 8 by percentage IMO.
Giants' window has been closed.
Essendon are sh!t.
The Saints will come crashing down the earth this week as they'll get pummeled in the West.
Watching Melbourne should be called Gawn Girls, somehow they'll do a Sydney of last season and claw their way up the ladder thanks to the mediocrity of all the other teams.
Richmond are shot as their depth of key players will get found out.
Port are meh, bottom of the 8 stuff for mine.
This will be the closest finish since the 18 team comp has been in existence, there are about 12 teams all as good as one another, or as bad as each other if you choose.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Dutchy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:59 pm

The 6-6-6 is making the midfield more open and inside 50's easier but now there are 12 blokes inside 50 instead of 6-8 previously which is creating much more chaos and contested footy and hence less scoring.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:01 pm

Dutchy wrote:The 6-6-6 is making the midfield more open and inside 50's easier but now there are 12 blokes inside 50 instead of 6-8 previously which is creating much more chaos and contested footy and hence less scoring.


There's been 12 in the two 50's for about 3 years, 5 forwards and 7 defenders.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:11 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Geelong are the real deal, a win over here this week would certainly place them in a group of their own for now.
Lions will be the big improvers for the season, will just miss the 8 by percentage IMO.
Giants' window has been closed.
Essendon are sh!t.
The Saints will come crashing down the earth this week as they'll get pummeled in the West.
Watching Melbourne should be called Gawn Girls, somehow they'll do a Sydney of last season and claw their way up the ladder thanks to the mediocrity of all the other teams.
Richmond are shot as their depth of key players will get found out.
Port are meh, bottom of the 8 stuff for mine.
This will be the closest finish since the 18 team comp has been in existence, there are about 12 teams all as good as one another, or as bad as each other if you choose.


Reckon you are wrong about GWS. Plenty of teams will look ordinary against the Eagles in Perth. They will make the eight easily I reckon.

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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:18 pm

I think the 6-6-6 has placed an importance on midfield depth and balance and that's one thing Geelong do have.

Selwood, Dangerfield, Kelly, Ablett on the inside are now complemented by Clark, Atkins, Dahlhaus and Constable on the outside, you can't be all in on one or the other, the game was shaping up with the importance leaning to inside mids to some degree, now it's back to 50/50.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:25 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Geelong are the real deal, a win over here this week would certainly place them in a group of their own for now.
Lions will be the big improvers for the season, will just miss the 8 by percentage IMO.
Giants' window has been closed.
Essendon are sh!t.
The Saints will come crashing down the earth this week as they'll get pummeled in the West.
Watching Melbourne should be called Gawn Girls, somehow they'll do a Sydney of last season and claw their way up the ladder thanks to the mediocrity of all the other teams.
Richmond are shot as their depth of key players will get found out.
Port are meh, bottom of the 8 stuff for mine.
This will be the closest finish since the 18 team comp has been in existence, there are about 12 teams all as good as one another, or as bad as each other if you choose.


Reckon you are wrong about GWS. Plenty of teams will look ordinary against the Eagles in Perth. They will make the eight easily I reckon.

regards,

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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:28 pm

Booney wrote:I think the 6-6-6 has placed an importance on midfield depth and balance and that's one thing Geelong do have.

Selwood, Dangerfield, Kelly, Ablett on the inside are now complemented by Clark, Atkins, Dahlhaus and Constable on the outside, you can't be all in on one or the other, the game was shaping up with the importance leaning to inside mids to some degree, now it's back to 50/50.


The best thing about Geelong is that we have addressed areas of weakness, namely the defensive pressure in the forward half. Miers, Dalhaus and Rohan are all awesome in that area, to a degree that we can carry Gaz's lack of defensive pressure. There appears to be some sort of plan, this is something that has been missing for many years. What we don't have of course is a gun ruck set up, although the 6-6-6 could suit Stanley's pace.

Cautiously optimistic but I can't see us saluting on Thursday. The Crows have regurlarly had our measure in Adelaide over the years except for a couple of matches. I'd be a happy Catter if we win that one.

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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:30 pm

Still got Kelly and Mumford to come back into that side, Stickers. Fairly handy inclusions. I think they still make the top six.

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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:35 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Still got Kelly and Mumford to come back into that side, Stickers. Fairly handy inclusions. I think they still make the top six.

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Mumford will dominate the 9 games he makes it out there this season, I don't under-estimate his presence one bit, it sure as f*** assures that Dawson Simpson stays well away from an AFL arena.

A couple of midfield injuries and they're right behind the 8 ball, Cameron's good for sitting out half a dozen games, didn't need to lose Lobb, especially with no Patton, I do really like the big Blimp though, I reckon he'll be very handy over time.
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Re: What have we learnt?

Postby Spargo » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:41 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Still got Kelly and Mumford to come back into that side, Stickers. Fairly handy inclusions. I think they still make the top six.

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