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Re: AFL 2021

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:57 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Trader wrote:Lets keep it in perspective.
9 & 1/6th seasons, call it 200 games.
The best is +2.25 frees per game and the worst is -1.6 frees per game.
Half the comp is within +/- 1 free per game.

Safe to say, generally it works itself out.


I think the table above suggests it doesn't.


i think your missing the point.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby am Bays » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:43 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
I think Tas and NT are the logical progression but 12 team finals is fanciful. If you look at who finished 12th the last 5 years;


I think talk of an NT AFL team is completely fanciful

It would require massive funds from both the AFL and the NT Government to prop it up and Given the NT is in an aggressive budget repair process this wont be happening any time before 2030.

The population of the NT is less than the population of the City of Onkaparinga

There is not the population, business activity or infrastructure to support an AFL team in the NT

FFS we couldn't even support a team in the NEAFL long term.

An NT team would be a massive drain on the AFL coffers which we be to the detriment of traditional football areas
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby RB » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:23 pm

I'm a bit surprised Canberra hasn't been discussed more given its population, and association with Aussie rules.

Still, Tasmania is the obvious choice and it's a scandal that they don't already have a team in a so-called national league.

Eighteen teams is too many in itself I think. Hard to see Tasmania getting a team without someone else being moved.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:24 pm

RB wrote:I'm a bit surprised Canberra hasn't been discussed more given its population, and association with Aussie rules.

Still, Tasmania is the obvious choice and it's a scandal that they don't already have a team in a so-called national league.

Eighteen teams is too many in itself I think. Hard to see Tasmania getting a team without someone else being moved.


Having lived there - Canberra is less than zero % chance of getting a side. What you find is that it's an extremely transient population and one that brings it's own club with them. So you'll find that a lot of Collingwood members/fans, Carlton members/fans, Geelong members/fans live in Canberra, somewhat temporarily. To base a side there, you really needed to do so 50 years ago before the place became more heavily populated. What you will see at a GWS game are plenty of 'other' supporters going there to see live AFL but to house a new side will be extremely difficult. I wasn't in Canberra when the Raiders started, so I can't compare.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:42 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Trader wrote:Lets keep it in perspective.
9 & 1/6th seasons, call it 200 games.
The best is +2.25 frees per game and the worst is -1.6 frees per game.
Half the comp is within +/- 1 free per game.

Safe to say, generally it works itself out.


I think the table above suggests it doesn't.


i think your missing the point.
Trader is spot on


*you're

And how am I missing the point - given the table above?
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Jim05 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:06 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
RB wrote:I'm a bit surprised Canberra hasn't been discussed more given its population, and association with Aussie rules.

Still, Tasmania is the obvious choice and it's a scandal that they don't already have a team in a so-called national league.

Eighteen teams is too many in itself I think. Hard to see Tasmania getting a team without someone else being moved.


Having lived there - Canberra is less than zero % chance of getting a side. What you find is that it's an extremely transient population and one that brings it's own club with them. So you'll find that a lot of Collingwood members/fans, Carlton members/fans, Geelong members/fans live in Canberra, somewhat temporarily. To base a side there, you really needed to do so 50 years ago before the place became more heavily populated. What you will see at a GWS game are plenty of 'other' supporters going there to see live AFL but to house a new side will be extremely difficult. I wasn't in Canberra when the Raiders started, so I can't compare.
My folks and several family live in the Southern NSW/ACT area and the Giants are building quite a nice base there. Half the kids in Canberra schools wear GWS gear at training and participation in Aussie rules is through the roof. In places like Albury, Wagga and Gundagai the Giants have really captured the market and by all reports over the years the Giants have done some amazing work in those communities. I think GWS are better off playing more games in Canberra
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:26 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Trader wrote:Lets keep it in perspective.
9 & 1/6th seasons, call it 200 games.
The best is +2.25 frees per game and the worst is -1.6 frees per game.
Half the comp is within +/- 1 free per game.

Safe to say, generally it works itself out.


I think the table above suggests it doesn't.


i think your missing the point.
Trader is spot on


*you're

And how am I missing the point - given the table above?

Ill rephrase, quite simply you dont understand the table and what Trader is saying
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Wedgie » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:01 pm

GWS get better support in Canberra than they do in GWS.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Armchair expert » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:23 pm

Wedgie wrote:GWS get better support in Canberra than they do in GWS.


100%
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Dutchy » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:48 am

Adelaide Oval Average Crowd Watch -

Adelaide - 28,580 (2)

Port - 31,860 (2)
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Jim05 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am

So Heeney punches one of our players in the head and our bloke gets cited for it.


HEENEY LEFT RED-FACED AS BIZARRE INJURY REVEALED

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The AFL has cleared Essendon’s Brandon Zerk-Thatcher of any wrongdoing in the off-the-ball incident which cost Sydney Swans’ star Isaac Heeney a broken hand.

The gun goal kicker was caught up in a behind the play push-and-shove with the Essendon defender in the second term on Thursday night when Heeney sustained the injury.

The league has reviewed the incident from multiple angles and found Zerk-Thatcher has nothing to answer as Heeney’s injury was self-inflicted.

Heeney appeared to do the damage to his hand when he shoved Zerk-Thatcher in a bid to break away from the defender in the middle of the ground.

The pair were about 30m off the ball when it took place.

The Swans are aware Heeney hurt his hand in the push-and-shove and have no plans to issue a complaint about the incident.

Heeney faces about four weeks on the sidelines depending on the extent of the damage.

He will consult a specialist to determine whether he needs surgery.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby DOC » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:01 pm

It's almost like it is not the VFL anymore.

The article states he has been cleared. Was he reported during the game?
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Jim05 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:05 pm

DOC wrote:It's almost like it is not the VFL anymore.

The article states he has been cleared. Was he reported during the game?
Wasn’t reported at the time.
Must have been during their match review.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:03 pm

Has the late finish and shorter preseason had any impact on the first month of footy?

Richmond, Port, Geelong and Brisbane look to all be just off the boil having had the shortest preseasons, St Kilda and Collingwood went out in the Semi finals and one has been riddled with injury while the other one has eaten itself alive. West Coast and the Bulldogs who went out in week one of the finals are the most advanced of last years final 8 and the bottom few who had the biggest break and most preseason action including Adelaide and Sydney who needed that next summer to get some more game structure into the kids are among the surprise packets.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby whufc » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:14 pm

Booney wrote:Has the late finish and shorter preseason had any impact on the first month of footy?

Richmond, Port, Geelong and Brisbane look to all be just off the boil having had the shortest preseasons, St Kilda and Collingwood went out in the Semi finals and one has been riddled with injury while the other one has eaten itself alive. West Coast and the Bulldogs who went out in week one of the finals are the most advanced of last years final 8 and the bottom few who had the biggest break and most preseason action including Adelaide and Sydney who needed that next summer to get some more game structure into the kids are among the surprise packets.


Richmond will be fine lost to the comps two most up and about sides.......
Port are going real well, one loss against West Coast followed by arguably their greatest minor round game.
Geelong- new rules have screwed them over, their list isn't suited to the fast footy we are season.
Brisbane- they actually had to leave the Gabba.
St Kilda- yeah maybe
Collingwood- arguably going better than some would have had them, weren't though the closest to imploding after round 1.
Bulldogs- recruited into their form
West Coast- winning at home, losing away....are we surprised.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Trader » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:31 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:how am I missing the point - given the table above?

Ill rephrase, quite simply you dont understand the table and what Trader is saying


Thanks for trying Days, seems some people can't be helped! haha
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby The Bedge » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:38 pm

gadj1976 wrote:And how am I missing the point - given the table above?

It means most sides are within a free kick either way each match i.e. the free kick count is generally even.. the highest is +2.25 free kicks per game.. hardly something to write home about.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby beef » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am

Booney wrote:Has the late finish and shorter preseason had any impact on the first month of footy?

Richmond, Port, Geelong and Brisbane look to all be just off the boil having had the shortest preseasons, St Kilda and Collingwood went out in the Semi finals and one has been riddled with injury while the other one has eaten itself alive. West Coast and the Bulldogs who went out in week one of the finals are the most advanced of last years final 8 and the bottom few who had the biggest break and most preseason action including Adelaide and Sydney who needed that next summer to get some more game structure into the kids are among the surprise packets.

Was speaking about this to a mate the other day, him being a port supporter thinks it has had a massive impact. My thoughts are they are professional athletes with the best sports scientist, medical staff and physios and that all the support staff and footy club should be able to prepare them well enough to be ready no matter how short the turn around is. Although not as physical there are plenty of sports and athletes who basically play 12 months of the year. You can tell the one's who have invested in their body and do everything right, hasn't effected Travis Boak and he's the oldest player out there, also the one who looks after himself the best.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby whufc » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:02 am

beef wrote:
Booney wrote:Has the late finish and shorter preseason had any impact on the first month of footy?

Richmond, Port, Geelong and Brisbane look to all be just off the boil having had the shortest preseasons, St Kilda and Collingwood went out in the Semi finals and one has been riddled with injury while the other one has eaten itself alive. West Coast and the Bulldogs who went out in week one of the finals are the most advanced of last years final 8 and the bottom few who had the biggest break and most preseason action including Adelaide and Sydney who needed that next summer to get some more game structure into the kids are among the surprise packets.

Was speaking about this to a mate the other day, him being a port supporter thinks it has had a massive impact. My thoughts are they are professional athletes with the best sports scientist, medical staff and physios and that all the support staff and footy club should be able to prepare them well enough to be ready no matter how short the turn around is. Although not as physical there are plenty of sports and athletes who basically play 12 months of the year. You can tell the one's who have invested in their body and do everything right, hasn't effected Travis Boak and he's the oldest player out there, also the one who looks after himself the best.


Agree.

Keeping in mind they would be given nutrition and fitness plans to work on over the summer, free access to a gym. If they choose not to be fit and spend the extra months rest drinking/partying that's on the individual.

Requesting someone to train 11 months of the year isn't to much to ask if your getting paid 500k a year, I mean personal trainers and the entire health and fitness industry do this to earn $50k a year.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:40 pm

Port Adelaide is the latest club to show interest in star Essendon free agent Zach Merrett, according to The Age.

The report says the Power have registered an interest in Merrett who is a restricted free agent this year.

Port is expected to have salary cap space to target a big-name free agent of Merrett’s ilk or a recruit from a rival club.

The Age also understands that Carlton and Melbourne are other clubs circling the Bombers midfielder.

Merrett remains unsigned beyond this year as Essendon look to lock away the 25-year-old to a new contract.

He’s played 146 games across eight seasons at the Bombers.
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