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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Booney » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:41 pm

The ump has been confirmed as one of the 4 arrested.
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:11 pm

Booney wrote:The ump has been confirmed as one of the 4 arrested.

Did the coppers call "STAND" when they arrested him?
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:08 pm

I'm just stunned that with this knowledge they didn't just bet in cash at the local tab/pub....
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Spargo » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:23 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I'm just stunned that with this knowledge they didn't just bet in cash at the local tab/pub....

My exact thoughts until someone mentioned you may not be able access this particular bet type unless online.
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:26 pm

Spargo wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I'm just stunned that with this knowledge they didn't just bet in cash at the local tab/pub....

My exact thoughts until someone mentioned you may not be able access this particular bet type unless online.


I'd think what you can access online with TAB you can access in tab.
Unless some of the propositions were only available at corporates.

Do we know what bet types they were on aside from overall winner??
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2022 AFL Season

Postby Jim05 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:38 pm

Port v Essendon Rd 11 one of the rumoured “fixes”
SPP got 3 votes but I don’t think he was in the top 6-8 players that day
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:10 pm

Jim05 wrote:Port v Essendon Rd 11 one of the rumoured “fixes”
SPP got 3 votes but I don’t think he was in the top 6-8 players that day


Don't think the issue is who got the votes its that who got the votes was leaked
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby carey » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:13 pm

Jim05 wrote:Port v Essendon Rd 11 one of the rumoured “fixes”
SPP got 3 votes but I don’t think he was in the top 6-8 players that day


Surely not even you could believe that???

It's the fact the information leaked not who got the votes.
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:45 pm

Obviously the 2016 GF was a fix.
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:47 pm

And this years grand final needs to be replayed cause obviously Stevic is a cheat
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Brodlach » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:16 pm

Michael Pell named as the umpire.

Any relation to George?
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Brodlach » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:24 pm

Umpiring debut round 21 this season
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby DOC » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:33 pm

Brodlach wrote:Michael Pell named as the umpire.

Any relation to George?


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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Brodlach » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:43 pm

DOC wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Michael Pell named as the umpire.

Any relation to George?


Son.


I think we know that’s not the case :lol:
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:53 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:And this years grand final needs to be replayed cause obviously Stevic is a cheat

You don't want to be embarrassed by 118pts
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Jim05 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:07 pm

Brodlach wrote:Michael Pell named as the umpire.

Any relation to George?
The Herald Sun understands the inquiry which has entangled Pell relates to allegations of betting on votes from multiple rounds this season, his first officiating full matches in the big league.

It is believed they were asked about spot bets on who would get three votes in certain matches
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:09 pm

Thanks to some guy on Reddit

Round 1 Hawthorn Vs North. Jiath 3, 2. L.McDonald (NM) 1. T.Mitchell (HAW).

Round 2, Essendon vs Brisbane. 3. L.Neale (BL) 2. H.McCluggage (BL) 1. Z.Merrett (ESS)

Round 3, GWS vs Gold Coast. 3. T.Green (GWS) 2. T.Taranto (GWS) 1. J.Kelly (GWS)

Round 4, Richmond vs Bulldogs, 3. D.Prestia (RIC) 2. J.Short (RIC) 1. S.Bolton (RIC)

Round 5, St Kilda vs Gold Coast, 3. J.Higgins (STK) 2. J.Steele (STK) 1. T.Miller (GC)

Round 6, Freemantle vs Carlton. 3. P.Cripps (CAR) 2. R.Lobb (FRE) 1. A.Pearce (FRE)

Round 7, Adelaide vs GWS. 3. J.Kelly (GWS) 2. J.Hogan (GWS) 1. I.Cumming (GWS)

Round 8, Essendon vs Hawthorn. 3. P.Wright (ESS) 2. Z.Merrett (ESS) 1. J.Newcombe (HAW)

Round 9, Sydney vs Essendon. 3. C.Mills (SYD) 2. C.Warner (SYD) 1. T.Papley (SYD)

Round 10, Bulldogs vs Gold Coast. 3. M.Bontempelli (WB) 2. J.Macrae (WB) 1. A.Naughton

Round 11, Port Adelaide vs Essendon. 3. S.Powell-Pepper (PA) 2. D.Parish (ESS) 1. O.Wines

Round 14, West Coast vs Geelong. 3. C.Guthrie (GEE) 2. S.Menegola (GEE) 1. T.Stengle (GEE)

Round 15, Port Adelaide vs Gold Coast. 3. K.Amon (PA) 2. T.Miller (GC) 1. C.Rozee (GC)

Round 16, Gold Coast vs Collingwood. 3. N.Daicos (COL) 2. T.Miller (GC) 1. I.Rankine (GC)

Round 18, North vs Richmond. 3. C.Zurhaar (NM) 2. J.Simpkin (NM) 1. L.Davies-Uniacke
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Jim05 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:10 pm

Brodlach wrote:Umpiring debut round 21 this season
Games umpired by Michael Pell in 2022

Round 1: Hawthorn def North Melbourne
Round 2: Brisbane def Essendon
Round 3: GWS def Gold Coast
Round 4: Richmond def Western Bulldogs
Round 5: St Kilda def Gold Coast
Round 6: Fremantle def Carlton
Round 7: GWS def Adelaide
Round 8: Essendon def Hawthorn
Round 9: Sydney def Essendon
Round 10: Western Bulldogs def Gold Coast
Round 11: Port Adelaide def Essendon
Round 14: Geelong def West Coast
Round 15: Port Adelaide def Gold Coast
Round 16: Collingwood def Gold Coast
Round 18: North Melbourne def Richmond
Round 20: Gold Coast def West Coast
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:30 pm

Brodlach wrote:Michael Pell named as the umpire.

Any relation to George?


Hope whatever you got out of it was was in excess of the $100 000+ you got from umpiring this year and ten years of effort and graft to get on a list.

Will never umpire AFL again, Plonka
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Re: 2022 AFL Season

Postby Dutchy » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:42 pm

Not once off, either. He’s allegedly cheated the system in multiple games. He sat with his fellow two field umpires post-matches, where they decided who would receive the 3,2 and votes, and then he allegedly broke the seal of trust.

Pell umpired in the vicinity of 16 games this year and all 16 of those games have or will be scrutinised with betting agencies.

Allegations of The Great Brownlow Robbery, as opposed to one of Victoria’s most famous sporting scandals The Great Bookie Robbery, were identified by a modern-day crime fighter — data.

It appears Pell’s three mates, or at least one of them as the kingpin, placed the same bets across multiple agencies to try to avoid being red-flagged by the data police.

It didn’t work.

One agency was alerted to a punter or punters placing bets on players’ votes in different matches and winning every time. By the end of the count, a red flag was beside his name.

That information was given to the AFL. It cross-checked betting patterns with their other betting partners and found the same person/people had placed similar Brownlow bets with them.

The AFL immediately knew the information could only come from one source _ the umpires.

It cross checked the betting with games and the umpires involved and it produced the one constant — Pell.
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