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Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:25 pm
by rd
Tassie = Yes for me.

I'd re-badge Gold Coast to be known as The Northern Suns who split their home games between 3 venues at Darwin, Alice Springs and Gold Coast.

GWS rebranded as The Eastern Giants who split their home games 50/50 between Canberra and Sydney.

19 teams - maybe in 2 divisions?

Div 1 - 10 teams with a final 6. Each team plays each other home and away during the 18 game minor round. If you finish bottom 4 and have missed the finals then you're down to Div 2 for the next year. No more tanking from Div 1 teams !

Div 2 - 9 teams with a final 6. Teams 1 & 2 straight through to Div 2 Prelim Finals and also promotion to Div 1 for the next year. Div 2 Elim Finals 3v6 and 4v5. The 2 winners qualify for the Prelim Finals and have also earnt promotion to Div 1 for the next year.

Div 2 Grand Final to be played on the week before the Div 1 Grand Final and would become the night time GF that the tv stations so badly desire. Best and fairest most brilliant player in Div 2 wins the Adam Goodes Medal.

Team #20 whoever that is joins the AFL via Div 2.

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:23 am
by Trader
rd wrote:Tassie = Yes for me.

I'd re-badge Gold Coast to be known as The Northern Suns who split their home games between 3 venues at Darwin, Alice Springs and Gold Coast.

GWS rebranded as The Eastern Giants who split their home games 50/50 between Canberra and Sydney.

19 teams - maybe in 2 divisions?

Div 1 - 10 teams with a final 6. Each team plays each other home and away during the 18 game minor round. If you finish bottom 4 and have missed the finals then you're down to Div 2 for the next year. No more tanking from Div 1 teams !

Div 2 - 9 teams with a final 6. Teams 1 & 2 straight through to Div 2 Prelim Finals and also promotion to Div 1 for the next year. Div 2 Elim Finals 3v6 and 4v5. The 2 winners qualify for the Prelim Finals and have also earnt promotion to Div 1 for the next year.

Div 2 Grand Final to be played on the week before the Div 1 Grand Final and would become the night time GF that the tv stations so badly desire. Best and fairest most brilliant player in Div 2 wins the Adam Goodes Medal.

Team #20 whoever that is joins the AFL via Div 2.


So the 16th ranked team (out of 19) happens to play well in their Div 2 elimination final, and jags a win. They find themselves in Div 1 next year, meanwhile the 7th ranked team (who happened to just miss finals on percentage), is now playing Div 2 next year.

PASS!

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:53 pm
by rd
Trader wrote:
rd wrote:Tassie = Yes for me.

I'd re-badge Gold Coast to be known as The Northern Suns who split their home games between 3 venues at Darwin, Alice Springs and Gold Coast.

GWS rebranded as The Eastern Giants who split their home games 50/50 between Canberra and Sydney.

19 teams - maybe in 2 divisions?

Div 1 - 10 teams with a final 6. Each team plays each other home and away during the 18 game minor round. If you finish bottom 4 and have missed the finals then you're down to Div 2 for the next year. No more tanking from Div 1 teams !

Div 2 - 9 teams with a final 6. Teams 1 & 2 straight through to Div 2 Prelim Finals and also promotion to Div 1 for the next year. Div 2 Elim Finals 3v6 and 4v5. The 2 winners qualify for the Prelim Finals and have also earnt promotion to Div 1 for the next year.

Div 2 Grand Final to be played on the week before the Div 1 Grand Final and would become the night time GF that the tv stations so badly desire. Best and fairest most brilliant player in Div 2 wins the Adam Goodes Medal.

Team #20 whoever that is joins the AFL via Div 2.


So the 16th ranked team (out of 19) happens to play well in their Div 2 elimination final, and jags a win. They find themselves in Div 1 next year, meanwhile the 7th ranked team (who happened to just miss finals on percentage), is now playing Div 2 next year.

PASS!

Football history is littered with teams who either cashed in on or stuffed up opportunities. In your example - which is a fair point - how do you know that the 7th ranked Div 2 team hadn't lost their last minor round game to the bottom side to slide down to 7th spot? In the 1970 SANFL season, Norwood missed out on the finals by 0.83% to Glenelg having been in the top 4 virtually the entire season and had drawn 2 games along the way. So no reward for Norwood who then had to watch Glenelg progress through the major round to play the 1970 Grand Final against Sturt. The 1978 Grand Final saw Sturt - who had lost only 1 game during the minor round lead Norwood by 29 points at 3/4 time to then lose the game by a point . So Norwood cashed in for 1978 after having stuffed up 1970 !

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:59 pm
by am Bays
rd wrote:
Trader wrote:
rd wrote:Tassie = Yes for me.

I'd re-badge Gold Coast to be known as The Northern Suns who split their home games between 3 venues at Darwin, Alice Springs and Gold Coast.

GWS rebranded as The Eastern Giants who split their home games 50/50 between Canberra and Sydney.

19 teams - maybe in 2 divisions?

Div 1 - 10 teams with a final 6. Each team plays each other home and away during the 18 game minor round. If you finish bottom 4 and have missed the finals then you're down to Div 2 for the next year. No more tanking from Div 1 teams !

Div 2 - 9 teams with a final 6. Teams 1 & 2 straight through to Div 2 Prelim Finals and also promotion to Div 1 for the next year. Div 2 Elim Finals 3v6 and 4v5. The 2 winners qualify for the Prelim Finals and have also earnt promotion to Div 1 for the next year.

Div 2 Grand Final to be played on the week before the Div 1 Grand Final and would become the night time GF that the tv stations so badly desire. Best and fairest most brilliant player in Div 2 wins the Adam Goodes Medal.

Team #20 whoever that is joins the AFL via Div 2.


So the 16th ranked team (out of 19) happens to play well in their Div 2 elimination final, and jags a win. They find themselves in Div 1 next year, meanwhile the 7th ranked team (who happened to just miss finals on percentage), is now playing Div 2 next year.

PASS!

Football history is littered with teams who either cashed in on or stuffed up opportunities. In your example - which is a fair point - how do you know that the 7th ranked Div 2 team hadn't lost their last minor round game to the bottom side to slide down to 7th spot? In the 1970 SANFL season, Norwood missed out on the finals by 0.83% to Glenelg having been in the top 4 virtually the entire season and had drawn 2 games along the way. So no reward for Norwood who then had to watch Glenelg progress through the major round to play the 1970 Grand Final against Sturt. The 1978 Grand Final saw Sturt - who had lost only 1 game during the minor round lead Norwood by 29 points at 3/4 time to then lose the game by a point . So Norwood cashed in for 1978 after having stuffed up 1970 !


Leave the promotion and relegation malarkey at the elite level to the sh!t sports like Soccer

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:35 pm
by rd
am Bays wrote:
rd wrote:
Trader wrote:
rd wrote:Tassie = Yes for me.

I'd re-badge Gold Coast to be known as The Northern Suns who split their home games between 3 venues at Darwin, Alice Springs and Gold Coast.

GWS rebranded as The Eastern Giants who split their home games 50/50 between Canberra and Sydney.

19 teams - maybe in 2 divisions?

Div 1 - 10 teams with a final 6. Each team plays each other home and away during the 18 game minor round. If you finish bottom 4 and have missed the finals then you're down to Div 2 for the next year. No more tanking from Div 1 teams !

Div 2 - 9 teams with a final 6. Teams 1 & 2 straight through to Div 2 Prelim Finals and also promotion to Div 1 for the next year. Div 2 Elim Finals 3v6 and 4v5. The 2 winners qualify for the Prelim Finals and have also earnt promotion to Div 1 for the next year.

Div 2 Grand Final to be played on the week before the Div 1 Grand Final and would become the night time GF that the tv stations so badly desire. Best and fairest most brilliant player in Div 2 wins the Adam Goodes Medal.

Team #20 whoever that is joins the AFL via Div 2.


So the 16th ranked team (out of 19) happens to play well in their Div 2 elimination final, and jags a win. They find themselves in Div 1 next year, meanwhile the 7th ranked team (who happened to just miss finals on percentage), is now playing Div 2 next year.

PASS!

Football history is littered with teams who either cashed in on or stuffed up opportunities. In your example - which is a fair point - how do you know that the 7th ranked Div 2 team hadn't lost their last minor round game to the bottom side to slide down to 7th spot? In the 1970 SANFL season, Norwood missed out on the finals by 0.83% to Glenelg having been in the top 4 virtually the entire season and had drawn 2 games along the way. So no reward for Norwood who then had to watch Glenelg progress through the major round to play the 1970 Grand Final against Sturt. The 1978 Grand Final saw Sturt - who had lost only 1 game during the minor round lead Norwood by 29 points at 3/4 time to then lose the game by a point . So Norwood cashed in for 1978 after having stuffed up 1970 !


Leave the promotion and relegation malarkey at the elite level to the sh!t sports like Soccer

Trouble with a 19 team comp is that the AFL and TV will still insist on a 23 round fixture so teams will still have double up games and the 2 SA teams for example will always have to play each other twice regardless of where they finished the season before. So in years where one of the SA teams is exceptionally weak - there's a bonus win for the other SA team just by living in the same state ! Same situation for the WA, NSW and QLD teams. In a 10 team comp everyone would play each other at home and away so the fixture is fair and equal with room for bye weeks - no double up inequalities to compromise the minor round. In the EPL only 3 teams out of 20 get relegated so the powerhouse clubs will always be in control. In my AFL 2 tier comp - 4 out of 10 Div 1 teams get relegated so there will be more interchange of the teams between the 2 divisions and the Div 1 teams can't engage in tanking as if you miss the finals you're in Div 2 next year !

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:02 pm
by JohnnyDog
Tassie Devils should of been in before GWS and the Gold Coast Suns.

Re: Tassie - Yay or Nay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:19 pm
by am Bays
Time to make it a truly national viable competition

Get rid of three Melbourne based teams and a smart one out of Melbourne, North Melbourne, Saint Kilda or Footscray well volunteer to go to TAssie and at least retain some of their identity.