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Port: Will the last one out please turn off the light

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:28 pm
by Rik E Boy
I was watching FOX the other day, Port v Carlton 2001. I couldn't help but notice just how many Port players were in that side that are no longer with the club...

Primus, James, Cockatoo Collins, Montgomery, Carr, Stevens, Paxman. Add to that Schofield, Pickett, Hardwick and you can see that the Power have lost a hell of a lot of talent in recent seasons. Have Port adequetly replaced these blokes? Hmm, unlikely I would suggest.

regards,

REB

Re: Port: Will the last one out please turn off the light

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:44 pm
by Booney
Rik E Boy wrote:I was watching FOX the other day, Port v Carlton 2001. I couldn't help but notice just how many Port players were in that side that are no longer with the club...

Primus, James, Cockatoo Collins, Montgomery, Carr, Stevens, Paxman. Add to that Schofield, Pickett, Hardwick and you can see that the Power have lost a hell of a lot of talent in recent seasons. Have Port adequetly replaced these blokes? Hmm, unlikely I would suggest.

regards,

REB


Well,Primus,James,Cockatoo,Hardwick and Paxman have all retired.Carr,Stevens and Schofield looked for greener pastures once "the ultimate goal" was achieved.
Montgomery I feel was sent packing a little too soon,we could have kept him for one more season,it would have been his last in any case.
The only player lost due to something other than "natural atrittion" is Byron.

I for one would have kept him,I know he is a loose cannon,but he is also a matchwinner,these guys are hard to find.Plus,he hits harder than any one,fairly I might add,and I dont want to see him flatten one of our blokes(no doubt he will).

Looks to me as though we will make the eight,somewhere between 9th and 12th,the bottom 8 that is. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:50 pm
by Magpiespower
Duly noted long before now, REB.

We effectively lost an entire midfield over two years - Primus, Francou, Carr, James, Stevens, Hardwick, Schofield.

No club could cover these losses overnight.

Must remember it took a few years for these players - except for Hardwick and perhaps Schofield who were ready made AFL players - to develop.

And it will take Salopek, Surjan, Ebert, Pettigrew, Pearce, Chaplin and co. a few more years just yet.

In the meantime, we've still got a good enough list to make the eight and hope and pray these guys develop before Tredders, Cornes and co. are too old for another genuine shot at the flag.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:10 pm
by TigerBoss
At the end of the day, it's Port...and nobody gives a shit about them. :x

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:23 pm
by Booney
TigerBoss wrote:At the end of the day, it's Port...and nobody gives a shit about them. :x


And you have the guts to go out with that avatar in public.Some times I wonder.......


Sticks is 5hit.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:02 pm
by Rik E Boy
Magpiespower wrote:Duly noted long before now, REB.

We effectively lost an entire midfield over two years - Primus, Francou, Carr, James, Stevens, Hardwick, Schofield.

No club could cover these losses overnight.

Must remember it took a few years for these players - except for Hardwick and perhaps Schofield who were ready made AFL players - to develop.

And it will take Salopek, Surjan, Ebert, Pettigrew, Pearce, Chaplin and co. a few more years just yet.

In the meantime, we've still got a good enough list to make the eight and hope and pray these guys develop before Tredders, Cornes and co. are too old for another genuine shot at the flag.


By the time Salopek and co come good Tredders will be balder than Jars and Cornesy will have finally grown out of crying at the umpires. I've spent years waiting for the Cats midfield to come good..it's a fairly bumpy ride I can tell you.

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:53 pm
by am Bays
Booney wrote:
TigerBoss wrote:At the end of the day, it's Port...and nobody gives a shit about them. :x


And you have the guts to go out with that avatar in public.Some times I wonder.......


Sticks is 5hit.


Five foot Tasmanian in flared pants, down boy, with that comment you are reinforcing the typical Port supporter sterotype that you know nothing about football

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:10 am
by Booney
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Booney wrote:
TigerBoss wrote:At the end of the day, it's Port...and nobody gives a shit about them. :x


And you have the guts to go out with that avatar in public.Some times I wonder.......


Sticks is 5hit.


Five foot Tasmanian in flared pants, down boy, with that comment you are reinforcing the typical Port supporter sterotype that you know nothing about football


Sorry mate,you must have over looked my first post on this topic,realisitic assessment of where my club is at,and what happened the the players REB mentioned.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:20 am
by am Bays
Booney wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Booney wrote:
TigerBoss wrote:At the end of the day, it's Port...and nobody gives a shit about them. :x


And you have the guts to go out with that avatar in public.Some times I wonder.......


Sticks is 5hit.


Five foot Tasmanian in flared pants, down boy, with that comment you are reinforcing the typical Port supporter sterotype that you know nothing about football


Sorry mate,you must have over looked my first post on this topic,realisitic assessment of where my club is at,and what happened the the players REB mentioned.


Noted, have to agree with your first comments. I was merely responding to your comment regarding Sticks.

However with Cornes, Cassisi, Francou (if he stays fit) and rotaing Pearce, one of the Buugoynes, and Ebert if he stands up there is a nucleus there for a half decent midfield. Obviously I hope it doesn't occur but for your sake mate....

Personally I didn't rate Schofield, I thought he was the epitome of a sheepdog....

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:46 am
by Rik E Boy
Cassisi, Salopek, Pearce LMAO the A team of Francou, Cornes and Burgoynes is fine but there is no decent rotation. This is not a top eight midfield. Port will make the eight on the back of their home record and the ability of Tredrea and C Cornes to haul down marks. They could well miss but the AAMI Stadium factor is a big plus in thier favour. The big threats for Port and keeping thier spot in the eight are Bulldogs, Brisbane and Fremantle if they ever get their shit together (Kangas are gone I reckon).

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:08 am
by Booney
Casissi is fine Rik-E,he has matured from a run with player to a midfielder in his own right.Salopek is one of those "potential" players,one who I feel will only promise and not deliver.Pearce is young a lithe,but looks to have some nouse about him from what I have seen.
I feel our weakness is going to be our lack of flexibility at the back half.
Wilson and Wakelin hold down two spots.Wanganeen can no longer be expected to go back and help out,we disposed of Montgomery,which I think will be costly.Chad Cornes will play up the ground more,as we saw at the end of last season,leaving the key post empty.Bishop struggled towards the end of last year,and IMO was lucky to survive the falling axe at Alberton.Chaplin looks to be a find,yet still has the ugly "potential" hanging over his head.Pettigrew may fill some holes back there but appears to be more suited to a forward role.We will lose S.Burgoyne from the middle and up forward by having to play him in the back 6.
Therefore at the other end we will desperately need Thurstans and Wanganeen to help Tredrea kick some winning scores.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:29 am
by JK
Casissi continues to be underrated by most outside of Alberton imo, has developed into a fine player

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:07 am
by TigerBoss
Booney and Coorong have a secret love affair with my avatar...

If I changed it, they would argue that they caused the decision for me to do so...hence, I leave it up there.

The more you crap on about it Booney, the longer it stays...

I can't believe an avatar can have such an impact on you though...it's JUST a picture.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:10 am
by Booney
TigerBoss wrote:Booney and Coorong have a secret love affair with my avatar...

If I changed it, they would argue that they caused the decision for me to do so...hence, I leave it up there.

The more you crap on about it Booney, the longer it stays...

I can't believe an avatar can have such an impact on you though...it's JUST a picture.


No TB,you get me wrong I luuuurv it,why not keep it forever,or you could change it to a pic of Scott Salisbury.I loved him too.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:58 am
by Rik E Boy
Constance_Perm wrote:Casissi continues to be underrated by most outside of Alberton imo, has developed into a fine player


Perhaps Casissi is overrated by most inside of Alberton Connie. The last time we played Port he was simply not a factor.

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:22 am
by JK
You could very well be right Rikkeboy, I guess just comes down to a matter of opinion and mine is that Cassisi is both a much improved and very decent run-with and ball-getting player, naturally if the majority of time you've seen him was against ur team and he didn't perform very well I'd understand why you don't rate him ... Hows that for a diplomatic answer! :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:25 am
by Magpiespower
Reakon Cassisi is one of Jack Dyer's 'good ordinary players.'

Nobody's mentioned him yet but I reakon our biggest loss has been...

Alan Stewart.

Booney, go easy on the Tigger supporters, mate. Their bitterness and envy is understandable. :D

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:32 am
by Booney
Yes MP,Alan Stewart is a huge loss,and time will be the judge here,we have a few of his players he "spotted",however the last draft and the next few will see how much we miss him.
One of our other mistakes has been to keep Mick Moylan,the bloke causes more waves than a King tide.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:21 pm
by Rik E Boy
Booney wrote:Yes MP,Alan Stewart is a huge loss,and time will be the judge here,we have a few of his players he "spotted",however the last draft and the next few will see how much we miss him.
One of our other mistakes has been to keep Mick Moylan,the bloke causes more waves than a King tide.


..at least you've still got Fweddy and End of the Rhode. Sheer geniear5e Port!!

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:28 pm
by Booney
Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:Yes MP,Alan Stewart is a huge loss,and time will be the judge here,we have a few of his players he "spotted",however the last draft and the next few will see how much we miss him.
One of our other mistakes has been to keep Mick Moylan,the bloke causes more waves than a King tide.


..at least you've still got Fweddy and End of the Rhode. Sheer geniear5e Port!!

regards,

REB


Itsth pronoucedth Tony McGuinesssth.Sheesh.

....and we are one of the proud 14 clubs to have never had Gary Ayres as our coach! :wink: