Globe Derby Development

[scoob]

Globe Derby to become the centre for harness and greyhound racing...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 43,00.html

Seems as tho the Bently report has shaken all three industries, what are people thoughts? Seems to be a good idea... I would also love to see some meetings brought back to Wayville SG.... Ah the good old days...

[Dutchy]

waste of time and money if its still going to be located at Globe Derby.....Would be a step backwards for the Dogs

Question - if the Globe track is now currently 845m surely it wouldnt be hard to extend it to 1000m?

[robber]

i think the cost of extending is high so if they are going to do anything to the track they will build a new one.


D hardings comments are spot on. Nothing wrong with the track, money should be spent on something to generate a revenue stream which can then be continually added to prizemoney and at some stage in the future pay for the upgrade of the track.

Building a 1400m track wont improve racing one bit if the stewards continue to run races without minimum time sections. You let a reasonable horse run a slow 1st half the ones at the back cant win regardless of the track size. Globe derby races fairly and doesnt need updating. The facilities however i couldnt argue with doing them up especially if it will generate more income.

I see p marshalls head in the advertiser next to the article, the 1400m track wont help him it will mean his horses are gone earlier.

[SCD]

This is just what Globe Derby and the dogs need in my view...
I've been told that the government has offered tax cuts and assistance to both industries which will result in higher prizemoney long term and that's what all industry participants need and want... But only if they merge and try to rationalise expenses.

Move the Lucky Horseshoe room to Port Wakefield Rd and build a Motel as well (only a small one) and try and attract people to the place - this idea of having it away from the public eye is wrong.. people will come for the pokies and may stay for the trots / dogs, which will increase turnover and in turn increase prizemoney...

My views are if they are going to increase the track size - has to be 1400m.. 1000m is only catching up to what was acceptable 10 years ago in Victoria.. why not move forward and look to the future and build a 1400m track and try to improve the horses that come here trying to post a quick time.. The bred is more Americanised.. the drugs used are American - we are moving more towards a speed horse rather then stamina, so build a track they can run times and as Robber quite clearly points out make minimum time requirements of 62 or 64 seconds for a 1st half...

This has been talked about for a while now (extending track size) so when I see it i'll believe it (but I hope it happens!!)

[mal]

Please please dont change anything
I am on a winning streak betting trots and dogs

BUT
If they rebuild a track, make it Wayville

[bayman]

i've said for a long while now that on the excess land (south of training track) why wouldn't you get a mcdonalds,hungry jacks,kfc,fasta pasta franchise etc (or all of them) & have junkfood corner out there, then some of the locals & their kids (part time) could have jobs which would be putting money in a round about way in their pockets, plus with turnover of these outlets prizemoney can be lifted, also the bar/pokies should be moved to the same location to entice the flowing traffic to stop in

[jackpot jim]

Whats the Obsession with 1400m tracks?????
The only advantage they give is the horses record faster mile rates. So what! It does't make them any Better.
Look at the rejects that are sent to America and run 1.52 miles. what does that prove???
One of the reasons that i go to the trots is that i can watch the race Live and actually See the entire race and all the action in it where as one of the Worst things about the Gallops is that watching the race Live is a waste of time at most tracks as the horses are so far away u only get a good look at the last furlong.
Going to a 1400m or bigger track only the the action further away from the spectators as David Harding says in todays paper.
Having watched the trots on the Big tracks in NZ, i find the pattern of racing is really no different than on the smaller tracks because its the Drivers that Make a Race NOT the size of the track. Some say that Bigger Tracks give more Horses a Better and fairer chance of winning but they (the clubs) then negate this by Increasing the Field sizes and the same problem still exists. i.e. A Horse 7 back on the pegs on a 1400m track has No hope just the same as a horse 4 back on the pegs on a 850m track.
Qld has the right idea, 10 horse fields a a 1000m track give most horses their chance unlike those Morons from WA where they Run 12 horse fields on a 800m track only to see 1/2 the field in every race hopelessly held up week in week out.
10 horse fields, 1000m track is the ideal way to go if there has to be an upgrade.

[Dutchy]

why would the dogs move from 10 mins from the city to 30 mins from the city??? and closer to the the no. 2 track in the state???...makes no sense

[mal]

Dogs moving to GDP has been an agenda for several years now.
Dog Administartion taking over the Trots admin is a recent agenda.

I think GDP is too far from the GPO as well Dutchy.
A centralised city venue would be a far better alternative.

[G]

MAL - NOTHING could stop your winning run. They could run in straight lines along Semaphore beach and you would still have the bookies and tote by the short and curlies.
Thats why you're no.1 on this site and envied by many.

[mal]

What a portfolio G

DOGS nice profits
TROTS large profits
FOOTYMALS 100% from 4 bets this season [aboiut 18/20 last year] massive profits
RACES even, but my finest off all achievements as i know SFA about them

CRICKET will introduce a new service next season
OTHER SPORTS no idea

SO LETS NOT SPOIL THE EQULIBRUIM please please leave the tracks as are.

YeAh I aM gOoD
regards
FIGMAL

PS there was another guy who tipped and backed at 38/1 winner last week on this site
How does one to that
I would need about 50 winners to = 38/1.....

[SCD]

Whats the Obsession with 1400m tracks?????
The only advantage they give is the horses record faster mile rates. So what! It does't make them any Better.
Look at the rejects that are sent to America and run 1.52 miles. what does that prove???
One of the reasons that i go to the trots is that i can watch the race Live and actually See the entire race and all the action in it where as one of the Worst things about the Gallops is that watching the race Live is a waste of time at most tracks as the horses are so far away u only get a good look at the last furlong.
Going to a 1400m or bigger track only the the action further away from the spectators as David Harding says in todays paper.
Having watched the trots on the Big tracks in NZ, i find the pattern of racing is really no different than on the smaller tracks because its the Drivers that Make a Race NOT the size of the track. Some say that Bigger Tracks give more Horses a Better and fairer chance of winning but they (the clubs) then negate this by Increasing the Field sizes and the same problem still exists. i.e. A Horse 7 back on the pegs on a 1400m track has No hope just the same as a horse 4 back on the pegs on a 850m track.
Qld has the right idea, 10 horse fields a a 1000m track give most horses their chance unlike those Morons from WA where they Run 12 horse fields on a 800m track only to see 1/2 the field in every race hopelessly held up week in week out.
10 horse fields, 1000m track is the ideal way to go if there has to be an upgrade.

JJ - completely understand where you're coming from re watching the races.. BUT how do you go watching races at
Moonee Valley / Cranbourne / Yarra Valley / Kilmore / Horsham?? All on the inside of gallops tracks?? SO you are already a considerable distance from the horses and further away again in the back straight.. 1400m tracks are the way of the future for my way of thinking..

I would rather see 1:52 races on a big track that gives horses back in the field an opportunity to make up ground rather then the crap that is dished up at Gawler every week where the leader / death seat and horse behind the leader fill the first 3 placings most of the time and horses don't get a chance to get into the race!! Better still those crap mile races at Moonee Valley where they go 33 second quarters and the fence runs the placings... at least a 1400m track enables back markers to make their runs 600m from home knowing they are only going around a gentle final bend (with proper camber would be better still)

Understand where you are coming from with 1000m tracks, but for me they were in fashion 10 years ago.. wait for Menagle and their 1400m track, if we don't do it we will regret it in years to come and wish we had gone with it.... gives blokes like Scaffidi/Posgate/M Smith and a few others a chance to be 3 wide for an entire race because they love to come 3 wide at the bell (which would be 200m after the start!!)

Dutchy - agree re location - globe derby is in a shit of a spot - but be serious straight down south rd, its only 10 mins from Angle Park to Globe Derby (a mate of mine did it in 4 mins to make the 1st race at Globe one night.. from Regency Park golf course...) so it's not that extra further out and would you go the extra 10 mins as an owner / trainer if the tax cuts mean more prizemoney????

Robber - I didn't make comment earlier and should have... P MARSHALL - your comment Never a more true word said... in fact last time he had a runner in 600m from home he was seen walking off (maybe to do this?? )

[another grub]

move GDP to AP..... closer to Hanson Rd.....