globe derby 20/1/2007

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globe derby 20/1/2007

Postby bayman » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:41 pm

gdp sat,

r1 top pick 8 with main dangers 2,3,5,7
r2 chances 1,2,5,6,7
r3 despite the draw 10 looks very hard to beat (rated evens), main dangers 7,9 with place hopes to 2,3,4
r4 7 a good thing from 1,2,4,8,9
r5 if you saw the run at pt.pirie you'll be on 4 it got flattened, picked itself & managed to run 3rd beaten 46 metres but if you saw the race you'd understand why it got beaten that far, it should lead & is an e/w special other hopes are 1,5,6,8,10
r6 chances 1,2,4,5 with 1 top pick
r7 6 on top on an e/w basis from 1,3,4,9
r8 i like 3 e/w it went very well last monday from 1,2,4,5,7
r9 only five real chances 6,7,8,9,10.if there is a roughie that could split them its 3 who is racing better but i doubt it could bother those five

suggested bet(s)
r3 no10 win
r4 no 7 win
r5 no 4 e/w
r8 no 3 e/w

dutchys betfair lay
r 7 no 7 it trotted all the way monday, sat behind the leader & plodded to 4th, this is a big risk as does tend to gallop as well

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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:50 pm

BAYMAN now you are the trotting GURU, you are tipping a horse that got beaten almost 50metres........ :shock:

the winner won by about 20metres cruising away from the rest of the field and won untouched!!!!!!

im not sure about that tip...........are you sure you arent tipping us a dud to get a better price on something else??????
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Postby bayman » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:55 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:BAYMAN now you are the trotting GURU, you are tipping a horse that got beaten almost 50metres........ :shock:

the winner won by about 20metres cruising away from the rest of the field and won untouched!!!!!!

im not sure about that tip...........are you sure you arent tipping us a dud to get a better price on something else??????


watch the replay & this horse will lead on saturday night
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:17 pm

bayman wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:BAYMAN now you are the trotting GURU, you are tipping a horse that got beaten almost 50metres........ :shock:

the winner won by about 20metres cruising away from the rest of the field and won untouched!!!!!!

im not sure about that tip...........are you sure you arent tipping us a dud to get a better price on something else??????


watch the replay & this horse will lead on saturday night


id love to watch the replay but unfortunately i dont have foxtel or access to sky like yourself, which is why you are the professional and im the mug!!!!!!
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Postby bayman » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:40 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
bayman wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:BAYMAN now you are the trotting GURU, you are tipping a horse that got beaten almost 50metres........ :shock:

the winner won by about 20metres cruising away from the rest of the field and won untouched!!!!!!

im not sure about that tip...........are you sure you arent tipping us a dud to get a better price on something else??????


watch the replay & this horse will lead on saturday night


id love to watch the replay but unfortunately i dont have foxtel or access to sky like yourself, which is why you are the professional and im the mug!!!!!!


i dont know about you being a mug as i saw you with plenty of $50.00's in your wallet on wednesday, it is just how i saw the run at pirie, this horse all but fell & picked itself & browny up & then made ground, the winner has since gone on & won last saturday but was lucky to win at pirie as it would never have won bar the scrimmage (my opinion obviously)
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:50 pm

before MANDANGLE PARK wednesday i stopped off at HANSON RD to get my weeks commission from my gals :D

thats why i had a wallet full
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Postby SCD » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:38 pm

R1 - 3 and 5 on top (5 e/w special) from 2,4,6,7,8,9
R2 - 6,9,10 on top from 1,2,5,7
R3 - 9 and 10 on top with good place chances to 3,5,7,8
R4 - 1800m, fresh.. I'm going with 1 e/w with 7 and 9 the only other winning hopes
R5 - 5,9,10 on top from 1,4,7 (4 should lead.. but not sure it's going that good Bayman)
R6 - 4 and 5 on top from 2,3 and then next best 1,7
R7 - very even race.. 1,3,4,9 are the ones I like
R8 - 1 on top from 2,3,7 and place hopes from Field
R9 - 6,7,9 are the only winning hopes from 4,5,8

Suggested Bets
R1 - 5 e/w
R2 - 10 e/w
R4 - 1 e/w
R8 - 1 e/w

Betfair Bets
R2 - 2 lack of gate speed (will have to do too much work or need too much luck to win)

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Postby mal » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:13 pm

Im gunna chicken out DECLARING any LATE MAL
BAYMAN has warned us this meet will be rain affected and prob WILL be abandoned.
So I advise you all to follow the words of our immortal leader TREAD WARILY.

I wont waste my time studying
I worked out 3 good place bets

They were

R4-7 OUR CONNOR MAC
R6-4 RAY SAUCE
R8-3 LIGNUM REDWING

Sorry but I play to win so NO BETS :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby SCD » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:52 pm

scaffidi can't drive wrote:R1 - 3 and 5 on top (5 e/w special) from 2,4,6,7,8,9
R2 - 6,9,10 on top from 1,2,5,7
R3 - 9 and 10 on top with good place chances to 3,5,7,8
R4 - 1800m, fresh.. I'm going with 1 e/w with 7 and 9 the only other winning hopes
R5 - 5,9,10 on top from 1,4,7 (4 should lead.. but not sure it's going that good Bayman)
R6 - 4 and 5 on top from 2,3 and then next best 1,7
R7 - very even race.. 1,3,4,9 are the ones I like
R8 - 1 on top from 2,3,7 and place hopes from Field
R9 - 6,7,9 are the only winning hopes from 4,5,8

Suggested Bets
R1 - 5 e/w
R2 - 10 e/w
R4 - 1 e/w
R8 - 1 e/w

Betfair Bets
R2 - 2 lack of gate speed (will have to do too much work or need too much luck to win)


Terrible night tonight.. except for tipping the Race 6 Tri @ $225 - didn't get warm.. the result in race 2,4 and 5 were all terrible for me.. but that's the way things go - i just need to get back on the wagon on Monday!
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Postby mal » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:33 pm

mal wrote:Im gunna chicken out DECLARING any LATE MAL
BAYMAN has warned us this meet will be rain affected and prob WILL be abandoned.
So I advise you all to follow the words of our immortal leader TREAD WARILY.

I wont waste my time studying
I worked out 3 good place bets

They were

R4-7 OUR CONNOR MAC
R6-4 RAY SAUCE
R8-3 LIGNUM REDWING

Sorry but I play to win so NO BETS :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


The NOBET LATE MALS

RAY SAUCE WON AT $4-80
LIGNUM REDWING 3RD[ntd no bet]
OUR CONNOR MAC mixed gear[wet track]

I didnt back RAY SAUCE....I betcha DUTCHY did !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I backed a horse last race LUCKY LAMP
SCD or BAYMAN or AG or DUTCHY did you see the atrocoius drive :twisted:
It ran 2nd........
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Postby Dutchy » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:52 pm

I backed Ray Sauce... :lol: :lol: in fact I backed all the NO BET LATE MAL.....as this is still better thna my tips!!!!
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Postby another grub » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:54 pm

I layed ray sauce.....at $5 ....I hate that horse!!!!!! even more now..... It gets all the favours in the run and is very over-rated!!!
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Postby bayman » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:55 pm

mal wrote:
mal wrote:

I backed a horse last race LUCKY LAMP
SCD or BAYMAN or AG or DUTCHY did you see the atrocoius drive :twisted:
It ran 2nd........


i've saw the race 'live' & yes on face value ordinary as it may've missed the bus but let me see the replays & i'll let you know sunday/monday
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Postby another grub » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:59 pm

I was concentrating on another horse in that race but scoob did make comment that it was another poor drive from this imposter, would like a replay
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Postby bayman » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:59 pm

another grub wrote:I layed ray sauce.....at $5 ....I hate that horse!!!!!! even more now..... It gets all the favours in the run and is very over-rated!!!


you beat me to it as i was going to mention it, but how can you say 'it had all the favours' ? it sat in the "ELECTRIC CHAIR" & IT IS A LOT BETTER HORSE THAN YOU THINK, personally i tossed up between it & 1 & i backed 1 e/w (4th every chance) :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby another grub » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:05 pm

fair call bayman.... i am talking thru my wallett a bit..... It has cost me a lot in the past and I will never back it due to that fact..... it was too good tonite but I dont think it should have won that many races!
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Postby mal » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:09 pm

I will try and show what happened with 500m to go approximately
5 brolga boy led
6 lets go frankie outside leader
8 LOCKY LAMP
9 petria

500m to go
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56
.....8



.......9

8 locky lamp comes from well back at the 600m and races up to leaders 5+6
9 petria well back about 20 metres behind the 3 leaders who are miles in front


300m to go
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56
..8.9


8 lochie lamp after sprinting up is restrained behind the leaders, meanwhile petria looms
up and puts locky lamp in a pocket
instead of locky lamp sprinting to the lead he is now pocketed.


150m to go
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.....9
56
.....8

petrea goes to the front[easily]
5 is gone
6 is battling
locky lamp now makes a 2nd sprint to chase after petrea


finish
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9

6 8

9 petria wins the race
6 is pipped on the post by 8 locky lamp


Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
i backed the 8 EW No damage
and lucky it got 2nd on the post + i got quins + exactas

BAYMAN watch the tapes please

I rest my case.
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Postby bayman » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:57 am

i've looked at the replay mal, it was a good drive to pop in for a breather but when you do that you must be fully alert (should be fully alert for the whole race) as to the traffic behind you so you dont get pocketed but if you back drivers that dont steer very well you'll end up losing a lot more than not

bottom line poor tactical drive as he wasn't alert
& i ask one ? when was the last time he drove a winner ?, guessing i'd say at least 10 years ago
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Postby mal » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:02 am

bayman wrote:i've looked at the replay mal, it was a good drive to pop in for a breather but when you do that you must be fully alert (should be fully alert for the whole race) as to the traffic behind you so you dont get pocketed but if you back drivers that dont steer very well you'll end up losing a lot more than not

bottom line poor tactical drive as he wasn't alert
& i ask one ? when was the last time he drove a winner ?, guessing i'd say at least 10 years ago


In your proffessional opinion did the driver cost the horse victory ?
I am unsure looking at the margin
But then the momentum lost.......
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Postby bayman » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:19 am

the winner won by 9 metres & yes i'd say it cost the horse the race, as if he was alert & came out pushing the other one further up the track that would create enough ground to make up 9 metres & also put it under pressure

MAL THERE IS MY POINT PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS if david harding drove it it would've won
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