ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:10 pm

interesting to read 'OUT OF THE BOX' with Craig Cook

reading about Jovanovics bad luck with a couple of his dogs who got injured and blaming the track - this is nothing new, the track has been a serious issue for a long time now, in fact I think MAL bought up this months back!!!!

then down in the saints/sinners section

saint

Matcott/Smith - keep producong winners

well IT CANT BE THAT HARD TO PRODUCE WINNERS WHEN THEY RACE EVERYDAY POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would love to a see a premiership table for trainers that is based on strike rates/runners to winners ratio and i can almost guarantee that Matcott wouldnt be high on that list............
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:59 pm

these are my investments for the night

all ups

races 4,5,6

ive then used races 4,5,6 as my anchors into every other race for all ups

with races 4,5,6,8 being the second biggest all up investment

with that ive taken all ups with races 4,5,6 to win and the other race to PLACE as well

the other all up

were races 7,10,11
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:54 pm

another grub wrote:Miss Brook $26.00 in the paper today :shock: :shock: :shock:


And ran like it to.
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:40 pm

mal wrote:U
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I woke up at 2-30 this morning and after a few minutes could not
get back to sleep, so I put the clock radio on.
At 2-37 Earth time radio channell 1323 am played this particular song
Que Sera Sera sung by Doris Day
Talk about omen tips.
What the...



QUE SERA SERA
WHATEVER MAL SAYS WILL BE WILL BE
THE FUTURES FOR MAL TO SEE
QUE SERA SERA

The LATE MAL spesh salutes at $1-70 [should have been $1-30]
Did we see this bonny mutt jump midfield and then accerlerate to lead clearly
What a dog, the greyhound equivalent of KP /WATTO/CHAMBO +SIMMO......

Yes look at the above quote when : " LAST NIGHT I COULDNT GET TO SLEEP AT ALL, ALL,ALL."
Dunno what feMALe singer sang that song

And one for the road sung by Frankie Valli and his band
"OH WHAT A NIGHT, LATE SEPTEMBER ''44'' YEARS AFTER 63."

Hopefully HEATER 31 and his buddies all got on
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby Dutchy » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:01 pm

How about the Scull.....went WHOOOOOOOOSHKA!!! :lol: and paid black figures! :lol:
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:34 pm

Dutchy wrote:How about the Scull.....went WHOOOOOOOOSHKA!!! :lol: and paid black figures! :lol:



The Skull brained them ...
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:36 pm

mal wrote:A special one off Preview for Heater31 as promised.

SA OAKS QUE SERA SERA + DORIS + NORMIE
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We have the """VICTORIAN""" Oaks :wink: races Thursday night and I will dedicate the race 5 heat
to Doris and Normie and a superstar dog Que Sera sera.
Que Sera Sera was a hit song for the blonde bombshell Doris Day I think back in the 50s
Normie Rowe the OZ rock and roller of the sixties also had a sensational version of the song.
I have both renditions on vynil
The songs were classics and the Victorian dog que Sera Sera is on par with the songs

PREVIEW
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R1...1238
R2...6143
R3...8214
R4...4361
R5...2578 [QUE SERA SERA what odds ? " whatever will be will be."]
R6...3658
R7...1743
R8...1756
R9...6872
R10..8712
R11..1234

BEST BETS

R5-2 QUE SERA SERA
Ran blistering early splits 4-44 and 16-82 and won the heat in 29-89
Given any room out of the traps will explode to the front and be the one to catch

R8-1 KEYCARD
Drawn perfectly and is showing plenty of dash of late and will be in the finish
EW if we fluke it is a safe bet
EW

R8 ANY2 OR ROVER TRIFECTA
1-7
KEYCARD as mentioned
KID DAKOTA is a top chance of figuring in the finish as well
They might even Quinella/exacta the race as well
___________________________________________________________
OTHER BETS

RACE 7 BOXED QUINELLA
1 TORPEDO RUNNER wobbles out but has tremendous dash after that, at last a draw
4 SKULL MURPHY star dog but just dwelling at box rise but explodes when settles
7 OLLY ORCA has blistering speed and looks the leader

RACE 11 BOXED QUINELLA
1 LANGDON BALE drawn for a delightful run through
2 RUMFORD REASON just a terrific dog and always does its best


Hopefully that helps H31 I threw a few exotics bets to try and good luck
Also follow the MT79 tips as he is the greyhound guru these days

As for previews as Buggsy used to say "THATS ALL FOLKS."
Never say never but as Micky Jagger once sang "THIS COULD BE THE LAST TIME.."

PS VICGIRL good luck your dogs are all chances as well


BEST BETS RESULTS

QUE SERA SERA WINS $1-70
KEYCARD was too short at $!-60 to take ew
the exotics 1-7 in that race was a dud

Tipped 4 winners
our good thing QSS gets up BUT
The others x 2 bets supplied a $3-30 quinella BUT
pretty average nights work
hope H31 and the lads didnt burn thier fingers
How was the night dinner and entertainment H31 ?
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby heater31 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:02 am

yeah good night had by all socially betting wise a different story..........................

followed the first tip and duly followed thanks for coming, then the pom and a school kid followed the next two and got nothing I spent the rest of the night defending my own reptuataion and the great one's aswell (mal).

some did back a 11.70 winner interstate with one of them his only bet for the night the bugger.

also if any one noticed no.6 in the last go in from around $11 to $6.70 with 5 to go that was us with our last of our syndicate money the lot on the nose and it nearly got there.
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby rooburger » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:49 am

http://www.greyhoundform.com.au/stats/trainer_sa.pdf
your wish on the strike rates.
interesting hey
8)

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:interesting to read 'OUT OF THE BOX' with Craig Cook

reading about Jovanovics bad luck with a couple of his dogs who got injured and blaming the track - this is nothing new, the track has been a serious issue for a long time now, in fact I think MAL bought up this months back!!!!

then down in the saints/sinners section

saint

Matcott/Smith - keep producong winners

well IT CANT BE THAT HARD TO PRODUCE WINNERS WHEN THEY RACE EVERYDAY POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would love to a see a premiership table for trainers that is based on strike rates/runners to winners ratio and i can almost guarantee that Matcott wouldnt be high on that list............
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:24 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:interesting to read 'OUT OF THE BOX' with Craig Cook

reading about Jovanovics bad luck with a couple of his dogs who got injured and blaming the track - this is nothing new, the track has been a serious issue for a long time now, in fact I think MAL bought up this months back!!!!

then down in the saints/sinners section

saint

Matcott/Smith - keep producong winners

well IT CANT BE THAT HARD TO PRODUCE WINNERS WHEN THEY RACE EVERYDAY POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would love to a see a premiership table for trainers that is based on strike rates/runners to winners ratio and i can almost guarantee that Matcott wouldnt be high on that list............


Yes the MT79 post is vindicated by the strike rates of the trainers

Below are the stats for amounts of runners and amounts of wins and s/rate %
Number listed is position on trainers premiership ladder

1 MATCOTT .......1120...168....15-00%
2 RASMUSSEN......723....81.....11-00%
13 T MURRAY.......116....35.....30-17 %

This is why Ive been pumping up Murrays tryes tirelessly over the last couple of years
He is clearly the best trainer in SA and his dogs regularly win top grade events
Murray gets very good hounds from QLD as improves the standard in this state
MATCOTT trains the most winners but has a staggering amount of dogs going around
MATCOTTs s/rate of the first 100 trainers is in the bottom 50% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RASMUSSEN has a very poor strike rate for the number 2 listed trainer
Both 1+2 get a lot of very ordinary dogs over from interstate mainly and rarely get dogs winning in the top grades.

The top 2 trainers race their dogs 3 times a week, more than nearly every other trainer
listed in the top 100 on the premiership ladder.
If you look closely at the trainers who race dogs usually once a week you will see
most of those have higher strike rates than those who dont
SO WHY DO SOME TRAINERS CONTINUE TO RACE DOGS 3 TIMES A WEEK INCESSIVELY ????
Occasionally yes is OK, but all the time is a farce



So I agree with MT79 and Craig Cook needs to present the true FACTS about the winners.
Sorry Craig I usually defend your journalism but not on this topic.
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby rooburger » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:16 pm

8) rumour has it that
Skrat has done a Scapula and scratched from the Oaks Final - Que Sera Sera Limping and might be doubtful for the Oaks - She's Our Jewel very very sore and, most likely, will not be going back for the Final.

Apparently there were at least 3 major injuries at the Trials Tuesday Night.
if its true we have a serious problem for the grsa :oops:
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:18 pm

rooburger wrote:8) rumour has it that
Skrat has done a Scapula and scratched from the Oaks Final - Que Sera Sera Limping and might be doubtful for the Oaks - She's Our Jewel very very sore and, most likely, will not be going back for the Final.

Apparently there were at least 3 major injuries at the Trials Tuesday Night.
if its true we have a serious problem for the grsa :oops:


well what a shame it is that we wont be seeing the best Oaks field if they are scratched due to injury.

ROO

the track has been in a diabolical state for quite a while, has the track responsible for these recent injuries......
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby rooburger » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:23 pm

i heard a few interstate visitors were not that impressed with the depth and cover of the track espec around the 700m boxes.
dogs that stuck to the rails were at a disadvantage due to 'ripples' leading into turn three and four.
uneven surface will throw a lot of muscle injuries hence we are seeing a lot of soft tissue 7 to 10 day injury time increasing
i hope the rumours are false but more importanly those dogs are not raced if they are carrying any sort of injury.
for eg on the 6th SEPTEMBER 2007 stewards report
5 dogs injured one race night
6 scratched before the meeeting.
"mangle park we have a problem'
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby vicgirl » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:43 am

Spoke to David Geall Skrat is ok and at this stage will be taking her place in the final. The only prob ive had with Apk is its too loose/heavy for my dogs and inconsistant last week was terrible it hadnt rained that much
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:44 pm

vicgirl wrote:Spoke to David Geall Skrat is ok and at this stage will be taking her place in the final. The only prob ive had with Apk is its too loose/heavy for my dogs and inconsistant last week was terrible it hadnt rained that much



Its no secret VGIRL
The track has been altered well before you came back to SA
When it was raining in the winter it was considered suspect
A lot of trainers/punters had voiced thier concerns at the time.
I didnt punt for several weeks until an improvement was made
I reckon its a clay surface or clay subsatnce in the track VGIRL ?

ROOBURGER has noted a fair share of injuries sustained this year.
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:47 pm

vicgirl wrote:Spoke to David Geall Skrat is ok and at this stage will be taking her place in the final. The only prob ive had with Apk is its too loose/heavy for my dogs and inconsistant last week was terrible it hadnt rained that much


is it enough to drive you back to VIC?????
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby vicgirl » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:51 pm

No its not that bad if i thought it was i wouldnt nominate if i had strong 500m dogs it would be fine. I have found that they get terrible sand toes a prob i didnt have in vic. Its not all beer and skittles in Vic they have ordinary tracks at times you just dont notice it because they have so many tracks racing
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby mal » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:46 pm

What does Sand toes mean VGIRL ?
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby HERCULES » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:03 am

SANDTOES> Where sand is driven up and embeds itself under the skin at the point where the skin overlaps the toenail.
The sand at Angle Park does seem to be very course though.
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Re: ANGLE PK 20/09/07 +THE HEATER IS ON + DORIS + NORMIE

Postby vicgirl » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:25 am

Thanks Geoff. Yeah i havent had this much trouble with them for years. The sand imbeds its self in the quick of the nail and becomes inflamed and very sore.
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