Roulette

[Punk Rooster]

I'm surprised you didn't say it was North supporters kidnapping Hayden Skipworth!

[mighty_tiger_79]

i think thats the guy from the RICHMOND TAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JK]

Yes, I now know where you are coming from Punky and I do agree with your last post, but that wasn't clear from your original post.

The only other thing that also works in Punky's favour Ecky, is a slight increase in percentage due to the biasness of a wheel ... From reports I read quite some time ago it is apparently common for wheels to have a degree of bias which over time often results in a number (or numbers) coming up more often than others ... Very minor point I know.

[mighty_tiger_79]

as far as i am aware there is no more biase with the roulette wheels though there used to be. One thing that the casino tend to do is swap balls over. there are 2 types a light one and a heavy one and they will change the balls over but they wont tell you.

[mighty_tiger_79]

just checking my e-bay account and i thought id have a bit of a search and found a roulette book that is up for grabs and its located at Maitland, SA.

maybe one of you amateurs should buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JK]

just checking my e-bay account and i thought id have a bit of a search and found a roulette book that is up for grabs and its located at Maitland, SA.

maybe one of you amateurs should buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe one of those amateurs is trying to sell it

[JK]

as far as i am aware there is no more biase with the roulette wheels though there used to be. One thing that the casino tend to do is swap balls over. there are 2 types a light one and a heavy one and they will change the balls over but they wont tell you.

Thats not what I'd heard mate, but I'm no expert in the field, so thanks for correcting me

[mighty_tiger_79]

CP

you may well be right but I did see them fixing up all the tables and was told that they werent having biase, but then that may not have been the full truth either

[Punk Rooster]

The Casino's don't need to tamper with the equipment, as they operate at a profit regardless.
Any suggestion they do is an urban myth, as a tampered table would only favour a punter who was in the know.

[Ecky]

Yes, I now know where you are coming from Punky and I do agree with your last post, but that wasn't clear from your original post.

The only other thing that also works in Punky's favour Ecky, is a slight increase in percentage due to the biasness of a wheel ... From reports I read quite some time ago it is apparently common for wheels to have a degree of bias which over time often results in a number (or numbers) coming up more often than others ... Very minor point I know.

My cynical nature would say that stories of biased wheels are likely to be invented by the Casino, just to con more people into playing the game.

[Punk Rooster]

My cynical nature would say that stories of biased wheels are likely to be invented by the Casino, just to con more people into playing the game.

Agree Ecky, or by delusional punters.

[JK]

My cynical nature would say that stories of biased wheels are likely to be invented by the Casino, just to con more people into playing the game.

Agree Ecky, or by delusional punters.

The info I got on it, was that it was impossible to get the wheel 100% perfect in manufacture, but not as any ploy by casino's ... As I said above, I''ll take your words for it and stand corrected ...

[mal]

Systems NO
Systematic betting stratergies YES

On the basis of relativity[each number falling equal amount of times]

36 NUMBERS + GREEN = 37 NUMBERS = 36/1 IN A 100% BREAK EVEN MARKET
THE CASINO GIVES YOU 35/1
CASINO = ADVANTAGE

BETTING RED OR BLACK PAYS $2 OR INVEST ONE TO WIN ONE
IN THEORY EVERY 111 SPINS A GREEN ZERO WILL COME UP 3 TIMES[37 X3]
IN AN EVEN DISTRIBUTION IN 111 SPINS = 54 RED 54 BLACK 3 GREEN
CASINO = ADVANTAGE

1-12/13-24/25-36
SAME AS ABOVE EVERY 111 SPINS YOU LOSE 3 TIMES
CASINO = ADVANTAGE

People who say they have a roulette system baffle me
As Ecky says its a ball spinning randomly in a circle and falling into a socket.
As a punter on the roulette wheel you have no control of an eventual destiny.
Betting stratergies are different, staking plans etc can make a difference.

ROULETTE WHEEL GAMBLING is brain dead punting, but good fun as it is
one of the lowest % in all forms of gambling
Its just under 103% per spin

One other thing about the Roulette system dreamers
Casinos all over the planet have roulette wheels for us to win, dream on.

[Frosty]

I don't define my method of betting on roulette as a system as such. It's more covering the odds in an area of the wheel and hope for the best. However, the odds are the ball will end up in my area of the wheel on a regular basis. The trick is getting a series of spins in a row with the ball falling in the designated area. Many times I've seen the ball lodge in the right spot only to bounce out as the wheel spins and the ball ends up on the complete opposite side of the wheel.

As part of my job I have interviewed ex-casino croupiers who have revealed to me that they can actually land the ball theoretically in an area of the wheel barring flukes and acts of god. Next time watch the croupier at the Casino and see what happens when the ball is spun. Count the number of times the ball spins before it drops. Watch if the ball lands in the same area of the wheel depending on how hard it is spun. There is some truth to what I was told - the trick is being quick enough to bet on it.

Here is a breakdown of the sections of the wheel and how they are bet;

Voisins - 0,2,3,4,7,12,15,18,19,21,22,25,26,28,29,32,35 Covered by 9 chips
Orphelins - 1,6,9,14,17,20,31,34 Covered by 5 chips
Tiers - 5,8,10,11,13,16,23,24,27,30,33,36 Covered by 6 chips

I bet the Voisins which actually covers 17 numbers not 13 as I originally posted. So you're covering just short of half the wheel with 9 chips for a minimum 17 chip return - not bad odds on a spin of chance i guess.

[Dutchy]

Fair Dinkum I never knew it was do technical!!!!

[mighty_tiger_79]

well my SYSTEM is more like the law of averages, if you have 20 or so spins in 2 thirds of the table surely the average says that the next spin or the ones in the very near future will be in the third that hasnt been touched for a while

[Ecky]

As part of my job I have interviewed ex-casino croupiers who have revealed to me that they can actually land the ball theoretically in an area of the wheel barring flukes and acts of god.

I strongly suspect that these croupiers had an inflated opinion of their abilities, or were telling you fibs!

If the Casino had even the slightest suspicion that a croupier could influence where the ball landed, they would
a) remove them from roulette duties immediately
b) change the rules of the game/design of the wheel so this couldn't happen in future

It is far too great a risk to the casino for the croupier to get a group of mates together and consistently bet on one section of the wheel if the croupier had this skill.

[Ecky]

well my SYSTEM is more like the law of averages, if you have 20 or so spins in 2 thirds of the table surely the average says that the next spin or the ones in the very near future will be in the third that hasnt been touched for a while

That is a complete myth, MT79! Refer to previous posts on the subject - the ball has NO MEMORY so where it will land next has nothing to do with where it landed previously!!! The chance the ball lands in that other third is always the same.

[mighty_tiger_79]

i understand that everytime the ball has no memory and could land on the same number for 15 times in a row. But i use that system and it works for me.

[RustyCage]

well my SYSTEM is more like the law of averages, if you have 20 or so spins in 2 thirds of the table surely the average says that the next spin or the ones in the very near future will be in the third that hasnt been touched for a while

That is a complete myth, MT79! Refer to previous posts on the subject - the ball has NO MEMORY so where it will land next has nothing to do with where it landed previously!!! The chance the ball lands in that other third is always the same.

The bigger myth is that everything that has happened previously has no bearing on what will happen in the future. True, the ball has no memory, and the next spin has 1/3 chance of landing in that third, BUT, if you use MT79s system, mathematically, it does change, because the odds are only a guide to one event, but we chose what that event is. In one off spins, that spin is the event. In MTs system, 21 or so spins is the event. If, after 17 spins, the first third has only occured 4 times, mathematically, you could say that 3 of the next four should land in that third. Will this happen? Probably not. If you walk up to the table and intend to have 5 spins, and hope the first third comes up once to win money (by increasing each bet after a loss), and third hasn't come up after 4 spins, is the next spin still 1/3 odds? Yes and no. Yes because there are three outcomes, barring a 0, and no because the event has gone from the first third occuring in one spin, to the first third occuring once out of 5 spins, and in which the odds are better than 1/3.

What all this means, is if you can devise a system where you need the event to occur less often than what it mathematically should to end up ahead, you are on to a winner. If you are relying on the mathematical odds, game over, casino wins every time.