mals million dollar challenge

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Postby mal » Sat May 05, 2007 11:44 am

fred flinstone wrote:Now now dutchy - cant remember anyone saying they didnt
like making a profit from the punt ??
The point is that playing this make believe game with
pretend money would appear pointless and in fact
obviously gives some an inflated opinion of their ability, by
manipulating the prices and rules to suit !
No-one was critical of exchanging tips, correct me if I am wrong,
but you and mal jump like gazelles if anyone questions your
self-made rules.
Having said that,"if i dont like it -dont watch it" applies to me
so each to their own


The whole point to this challenge was only to prove that the odds put
in the Advertiser were misleading and at times wrong.
FRED I have been putting my LATE MAL tips in the trotting previews
and quoting the paper odds
Approximately 90% of my selections have paid much less on the TAB
then what the paper quoted.
With monotomous regularity I will tip a $2-50 chance that pays $1-40
on the TAB that day.

CENTREMAN might be right he says they deliberately inflate the prices
of some favoured horses to encourage TAB turnover.

MAL says if thats true and deliberate then that is poor poor poor by the press
MAL also says the guy doing the trotting prices might be a poor judge
The guy that does the dog odds in the paper is very very very good

FRED how are we manipulating the prices and rules to suit ?
The paper bets 150% consistently for its odds
The TAB bets 115% all the time for its dividends
In theory its about 35% harder to beat the paper odds
I would say the paper is manipulating the odds not me.

FRED one more thing about infalting my ego
Your right I love to brag, thats me
BUT
Go thru my bets in the challenge and compare the paper odds of all my collects
to the odds paid on the TAB
Proves my point about the paper odds[ and why this challenge has eventuated]
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Postby hacksville » Sat May 05, 2007 6:31 pm

ill have a go at this challenge
bt race 7 no 6 armbros revenge

$2500 each way at $34 .... if this horse finds his best will win

it could be a short stay in this challenge !!
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Postby bayman » Sun May 06, 2007 12:01 am

bayman wrote:balance $196,062.50

albion park race 4 no 2 mister mystic ($3.50)

i'll have 100,000/40,000 WIN & 62,500/100,000 place

ps it'll be shorter than the place div :wink:

balance with bet pending $56,062.50



wins & total div is $302,500.00

NEW BALANCE $358,562.50
hey mal basically a third of the way there :wink:
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Postby MAY-Z » Sun May 06, 2007 12:10 am

MAY-Z wrote:think youre right there bayman

BT 4 2 Mister Mystic- 10000w 40000p @ 3.20
All up

BT 4 2 w, BT 6 7 w 10000 @ 5.12
BT 4 2 p, BT 6 7 w 25000 @ 2.48


balance 177252
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 1:52 pm

BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 1:54 pm

mal wrote:BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000


I didnt see those odds for stawell today!!!!
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 1:56 pm

mal wrote:BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000


At GDP
Well spotted MT79
Can you imagine CENTREMAN with this one .......
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 1:58 pm

mal wrote:
mal wrote:BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000


At GDP
Well spotted MT79
Can you imagine CENTREMAN with this one .......


i think that because no code was mentioned at the time of putting the bets through that the bets are cancelled.

this is your second warning MAL, one more f**k up and you are out!!!!!!!!! or will be severely fined.
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 2:08 pm

Auditors am I allowed to lend MT79 some of my balance :?:
He lost his bank on a $1-10 favourite :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 2:10 pm

mal wrote:Auditors am I allowed to lend MT79 some of my balance :?:
He lost his bank on a $1-10 favourite :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I lost my $5,000 in this challenge on ONE of your LATE MALS and now i go and lose my PAY on BOYSIE!!!

thats the stupid horse i layed on BETFAIR on debut!!!!!!!!!

I hate that aniMAL
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Postby MAY-Z » Mon May 07, 2007 2:38 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:Auditors am I allowed to lend MT79 some of my balance :?:
He lost his bank on a $1-10 favourite :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I lost my $5,000 in this challenge on ONE of your LATE MALS and now i go and lose my PAY on BOYSIE!!!

thats the stupid horse i layed on BETFAIR on debut!!!!!!!!!

I hate that aniMAL


sounds like you should be lending him some real money
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Postby Ecky » Mon May 07, 2007 3:49 pm

fred flinstone wrote:The point is that playing this make believe game with
pretend money would appear pointless and in fact
obviously gives some an inflated opinion of their ability, by
manipulating the prices and rules to suit !


I actually believe this is a very interesting exercise and is a game with a very large component of skill involved.
To succeed here you need to have all the attributes of a smart punter, such as

:arrow: Patience - the ability to wait until an attractive enough price is found, and not expect to make your fortune overnight
:arrow: Deep knowledge of the horses/dogs so that the right tips (the extreme "overs") are identified
:arrow: A sensible betting strategy - taking some risks but not too much (eg. you don't put all your original $5000 on one horse no matter how sure you may be)
:arrow: persistence - if you have some bad luck and lose a few bets in a row, you don't give up, and you don't panic by trying to make up the losses straight away

Mal, Bayman and May-Z have all demonstrated that they are very astute punters, and I believe that it would be very beneficial for any aspiring punters reading this thread to carefully study the "bets" they have placed here, and how they have all managed to increase their "balances" so effectively.

The fact that paper odds are used just makes winning easier, the gambling principles involved remain the same.
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 4:53 pm

i thought some of that advice could have been used in the roulette system comp, but obviously that would be boring. :shock: :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 4:59 pm

mal wrote:BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000


bad day MAL :!:
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Postby Ecky » Mon May 07, 2007 5:10 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:i thought some of that advice could have been used in the roulette system comp, but obviously that would be boring. :shock: :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


Obviously, none of that advice is applicable to Roulette because the true odds of every number coming up are fixed and known every time, unlike in racing!

I thought someone of your gambling experience would have realised that by now, MT79, but obviously not. :roll:
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon May 07, 2007 5:11 pm

Ecky wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:i thought some of that advice could have been used in the roulette system comp, but obviously that would be boring. :shock: :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


Obviously, none of that advice is applicable to Roulette because the true odds of every number coming up are fixed and known every time, unlike in racing!

I thought someone of your gambling experience would have realised that by now, MT79, but obviously not. :roll:


my gambling experience is poor, havent you realised that with all the posts on here....
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 5:15 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:BALANCE $94770.65

R3-2 [$1-80]$1000 WIN
ALL UP
R4-8 [$2-20]WIN
ODDS $3-96

R4-8 $1000 WIN [$2-20]
R7-8 $1000 WIN $1000 PLACE [$2-80]

INVEST $4000


bad day MAL :!:


ALL UP BET $0000
R4-8 WINS..$2200
R7-8 2ND.....$1450

INVEST 4000
RETURN3650
LOSE.....$350

NEW BALANCE $94,420.65

yEaH mt HaD A bAd DaY :rolleyes:
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 6:17 pm

DOGS MON 07/05/07

MG9-4 $1000 PLACE [$3-80] = $1-70
BG10-8 $1000 PLACE[$8] = $2-75

ALL UP
BOTH OF THE ABOVE
$4.675
$1000 PLACE ALL UP

INVEST $3000


AG R6-4 DELITE BALE is at $6000 in the press am I allowed to back it :roll: :roll:
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Postby bayman » Mon May 07, 2007 8:57 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Ecky wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:i thought some of that advice could have been used in the roulette system comp, but obviously that would be boring. :shock: :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


Obviously, none of that advice is applicable to Roulette because the true odds of every number coming up are fixed and known every time, unlike in racing!

I thought someone of your gambling experience would have realised that by now, MT79, but obviously not. :roll:


my gambling experience is poor, havent you realised that with all the posts on here....


ecky, mt79's punting is that poor that recently he got a first4 costing $31.50 & he got back nearly $4,000 from memory, so he can't be going that bad :wink:
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Postby mal » Mon May 07, 2007 10:21 pm

mal wrote:DOGS MON 07/05/07

MG9-4 $1000 PLACE [$3-80] = $1-70
BG10-8 $1000 PLACE[$8] = $2-75

ALL UP
BOTH OF THE ABOVE
$4.675
$1000 PLACE ALL UP

INVEST $3000


AG R6-4 DELITE BALE is at $6000 in the press am I allowed to back it :roll: :roll:


no collects :roll:
lose 3000
balance $91420.65
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