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USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:13 pm
by another grub
Been studying this bet on offer..... Most medals at the Games!!!

CHINA 1.70 v USA $2.25

1992 – US won 108 medals, China 54 – difference of 54.
1996 – US won 101 medals, China 50 – difference of 51.
2000 – US won 95 medals, China 59 – difference of 36.
2004 – US won 102 medals, China 63 – difference of 39.

Surely, China can’t make it up mate……..

Australia won 41 in 1996 – then at home in 2000 they won 58 medals an increase of 41 per cent.
If China increases their medal tally by 41 per cent this year they win 89 medals…
Bottom line, US should hang on comfortably…$2.25 V for VALUE!!!!!


Look at this GOSS.....

China tempers Olympic medal expectations
(Agencies)
Updated: 2008-03-06 10:29



BEIJING - China's sports authority is lowering medal expectations and offering counseling for athletes as pressure mounts on the hosts to succeed at Olympic Games in August.

Deputy Sports Minister Cui Dalin acknowledged that the Chinese public holds high hopes for the country's athletes to top the medal tallies in Beijing. On Wednesday, he offered a long list of reasons why that likely won't happen.

"We've got to take a pretty sober, objective view toward this. Overall, we're not a big sporting nation," Cui told delegates to China's main government advisory body.

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Like China, the US has been downplaying its chances in Beijing, an apparent strategy to reduce pressure on athletes. Historically, however, the host nation has enjoyed a boost in the medal tally.

Although China was second in golds at the 2004 Games in Athens, it was a distant third in the overall medal tally, he pointed out. Chinese athletes are offered powerful inducements for winning performances, from entry into elite universities to lucrative endorsement deals.

In dampening medal expectations, Cui cited challenges ranging from rule changes to limited growth prospects in sports that China already dominates, such as diving, table tennis and badminton. Meanwhile, China has recently fallen further behind top nations in medal-rich sports, such as athletics and swimming, that hold the key to topping the tallies, he said.

China is also weak in three popular balls sports: soccer — "very disappointing," Cui said; basketball — "not so good"; and volleyball — "only the women show much promise."

"In the competition altogether, the United States and Russia are still well above our level," Cui said.

Chinese athletes are under pressure from the public, with invasive media coverage making things worse, Cui said.

Trainers were ramping-up athletes' mental preparations by hiring psychologists to provide counseling, he said, without giving details.

Sports psychology remains largely unknown in China, with most coaches merely telling their athletes to "chi ku," or "eat bitterness."

In one bright spot, Cui said authorities were cheered by news that NBA All Star center Yao Ming was expected to be fit to play for China despite suffering a season-ending foot injury.

Cui laughed, however, when asked to offer a prediction for China's medal haul.

"The beautiful thing about athletic competition is that you never know the result until the competition is over," he said

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:16 pm
by SCD
seems amazing value...

ALL ABOARD THE GRUB EXPRESS

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:48 pm
by another grub
This will be my biggest single bet ever..... I am going to have a crack 10k at $2.25..... :shock: :shock:

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:57 pm
by wosfc
another grub wrote:This will be my biggest single bet ever..... I am going to have a crack 10k at $2.25..... :shock: :shock:



Sportsbet have a most gold medals market with USA at $2.60 - what other country would come close to China & USA, therefore does the $2.60 look better value than the head to head?

China P R 1.50
U S A 2.60
Russia 19.00
Any Other Individual Country 26.00

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:22 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
better check out betfair

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:43 pm
by Zelezny Chucks
China's drug manufacturing is a pretty large industry, with what they are doing everything they can to make sure they look good to the outside world i.e. clean environment, polite people etc. it wouldn't surprise me to see a few of them get busted. For all the people that test positive there must be a few that slip through.

A few reports are leading to the fact that the Chinese could be the big improvers in these Games whether or not it's drug related they will still be around the mark. Add to that the host nation normally has a bigger team than what they would if travelling to another country. It will definitely be USA or China but which it is isn't so clear.

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:19 pm
by rooburger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_O ... edal_count

this might help.
i,m on and in a big way.

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:45 pm
by Bold Strategy
what betting agency is this at?? at tab USA most medals are at 2 10

what about USA most gold at 2 50???

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:25 pm
by ryles-kennels
SPORTSBET as of 12.25pm Adelaide time 25th July.

Medal Tally - Total Gold Medals
Medal Tally - Overall - Gold Medals

China P R 1.50
U S A 2.60
Russia 19.00
Any Other Individual Country 26.00

I think the odds for USA are a GIFT!! :wink:

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:18 am
by rooburger
32001 CHINA $1.80
32002 USA $1.95
current on unitab sat 9.00am.
USA is plunging.
i think it will end up fav at $1.60

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:05 am
by Dutchy
USA $2.86 for most GOLD medals on BF, might have to take a slice of that, might keep the Olympics interesting!

Sound theory Grub, lets get this one home lads, another good 'ol SAFooty plunge! 8)

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:36 pm
by another grub
After my 10k bet they came into $1.90... :shock: :shock:
:lol:

money for jam lads!!!!!!

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:45 pm
by Dutchy
Did WCP spot you the $10k? :wink:

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:08 am
by brod
As posted by Tassie Blue on the Olympics Forum, Sports Illustrated have given their medal preview for the games

G S B T
USA 45 44 32 121
CHN 49 28 25 102
RUS 25 28 22 75
AUS 22 14 18 54
GER 15 16 17 48

USA most TOTAL medals
China most GOLD medals

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:03 pm
by another grub
get on while you can..... makes the $2.25 i got look appealing :lol: :lol:

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:25 pm
by rooburger
China 13 3 5 =21 medals
United States 8 7 8 =23 medals.

usa looking good for most medals as they will now pick up track plus more swimming medals.

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:45 pm
by another grub
It was a $2.25 gift IMHO...... My round the world trip is looking good at htis stage.....adios amigos :lol: :lol: 8)

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:48 pm
by MAY-Z
another grub wrote:It was a $2.25 gift IMHO...... My round the world trip is looking good at htis stage.....adios amigos :lol: :lol: 8)


china now in front 32 to 31

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:55 pm
by Ecky
I am completely stunned that people would put big money on such a bet. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The major bookmakers would have done a comprehensive analysis of the chances of each country in every single Olympic event before framing their markets. I presume that you guys haven't, and hence you are in no position whatsoever to have any confidence that the bet is a good one.

Comparing results from past Olympics, and observing patterns in host nations medal tallies is only one small part of the knowledge needed to frame a market here - there are so many thousands of other factors that have an important influence on the final makeup of the medal tallies.

Re: USA value....

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:24 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
ECKY

are you saying that GRUB is punting blind??

I think GRUB would have spent many hours going through the form of all the sports and done a tally based on that! :shock:

AG is a very astute punter this year, had the olympics been last year - well it would have been another donation!!!!