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MAY-Zs first time

Posted:
Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:45 pm
by MAY-Z
for those who enjoy a trip down memory lane i looked up the racebook for the first meeting i attended at Globe Derby Park.
Saturday 12th January 1991.
3,505th Meeting – Official Programme $1.50
Drinkwise Cup (Group One Race) 2645M $100,000 Prizemoney
1. Mile Post
2. Yard Boy (IE)
3. Mikes Choice
4. Regal Happy (2E)
5. Hunger Buster
6. Poshak
7. Amendment
8. Bonzatross
9. Tip Top Prince
10. Aim First
11. Allan Grant
12. Thorate
Interesting Points to note from the night:
20 Bookmakers on course- Bookmakers risk: GDP $600
Gawler/Kapunda $500
All Other Meetings $300
Race Prizemoney:
Race 1: $2,500 (26-24)
Race 2: $3,300 (28-24)
Race 3: $5,600 (22-21)
Race 4: $5,150 (23)
Race 5: $100,000 (M2)
Race 6: $5,150 (23)
Race 7: $3,750 (trot) (33 or Better)
Race 8: $2,500 (26-24)
Can anyone explain the rating system ie what is a 24 rating horse?
Track Record over 1800m 1.55.16 (Tip Top Prince)
2230m 1.58.4 (Weona Chief)
2645m 2.00.00 (Thorate)
Some Drivers in the Pony Trot
David Theun
Ryan Hyhorec
Danielle Hill
Barry Preston
Matthew Harding
Luke Alcorn
David Harding
Leading Reinsman 1st 2nd 3rd
John Justice 50 24 24
Lance Juctice 31 30 20
Ross Sugars 22 18 16
Geoff Webster 13 7 6
Lisa Justice 12 15 4
Mark Webster 11 6 4
Bronte Giorgio 9 11 11
Leading Trainer
John Justice 64 40 39
Lance Justice 34 40 32
R R Sugars 19 15 18
L B Harding 13 12 11
C R Laird 12 7 8
B Giorgio 9 11 11
M D Webster 7 1 1
SAHRC Consistent Horse Award
Yard Boy 24
Tip Top Prince 22
Baker Street 22
Tronnan 20
Mile Post 20
Roman Rug 20
Exford Elect 19
The Spokesman 19
Fergys Rocket 18
Rough & Tough 18

Posted:
Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:41 pm
by jackpot jim
I would have been there but i'm buggered if i can remember who won the race.
They were the days, 20 Bookies and BIG crowds with some DECENT Horses, Trainers and Drivers to Bet on.
Thorate?
Interesting to note that the Prizemoney is still no better today, 16 Years later. FFS wot a JOKE!


Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:45 am
by MAY-Z
my vague memory of that meeting is that tip top prince won, but they may be incorrect because he won the week before as well and i might hve been confused by that.
totem toto won the trot i can remember that as i backed (well got someone to back it for me) it

Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:58 am
by Wedgie
Geez, that does bring back some memories, bloody Thorate won my Dad a shitload of money.
As a kid I can remember being at Globe Derby in the 70s however my 2 fondest memories were watching Westburn Grant's two amazing runs there.

Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:41 pm
by bayman
Re: MAY-Zs first time

Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:06 pm
by Kahuna
MAY-Z wrote:
Can anyone explain the rating system ie what is a 24 rating horse?
From memory 28 or 30 was Maiden class and when a horse won a 28 class race he became a 28.1,then a second win would make him a 27 and so on through the classes.Some races I think were penalty free but can't remember why (2yo,3yo,4yo ? ). Can't remember if country races were penalty free.
Long time ago,best I can do,some on here will be able to supply more detail or correct me where wrong.
Re: MAY-Zs first time

Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:28 pm
by bayman
Kahuna wrote:MAY-Z wrote:
Can anyone explain the rating system ie what is a 24 rating horse?
From memory 28 or 30 was Maiden class and when a horse won a 28 class race he became a 28.1,then a second win would make him a 27 and so on through the classes.Some races I think were penalty free but can't remember why (2yo,3yo,4yo ? ). Can't remember if country races were penalty free.
Long time ago,best I can do,some on here will be able to supply more detail or correct me where wrong.
yes from memory that is correct a maiden was 28 or 30 & it went down as they won races etc, of course some penalty free races existed as they do now, but what about the prizemoney ? there is NO $1,200.00 way back then it just goes to show you we have indeed gone backwards, i recall 'the fox' (ray fewings) saying on 5rph not that long ago that in the 50's if you won one race a year (they raced for 6 months of the year then) that you got enough to buy a house, also it would pay for all expenses for the year, now it doesn't even pay a months training fees

Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:44 pm
by stampy
i remember tippy winning by 69! yep thats right the official margin was 69 metres when he run that 1.55.16, and remember being at gdp a coupla weeks later when he won in melbourne and the punters in the ring were going off! it made the hairs on the back of the neck stand up, and i also clraned up when thorate won the 1990 inter grand final howard james dorve it from memory, also interesting the prizemoney back then - more than blody now WTF is going on??

Posted:
Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:37 am
by jackpot jim
stampy wrote:i remember tippy winning by 69! yep thats right the official margin was 69 metres when he run that 1.55.16, and remember being at gdp a coupla weeks later when he won in melbourne and the punters in the ring were going off! it made the hairs on the back of the neck stand up, and i also clraned up when thorate won the 1990 inter grand final howard james dorve it from memory, also interesting the prizemoney back then - more than blody now WTF is going on??
Yeah, i was there that night TTP Smashed the Track Record but unfortunately leftjust B4 that race cos was Broke, but i Vividly remember listening to on the radio on the way home. He came from the 2nd row as well. Makes one wonder about the time when SONIC Broke the record, running 1.55.10 as he was a shit horse at the time and beat shit horses as well in that race by a narrow margin. to this day i cant believe that time could be correct as no other horses had previously come close to it and since then its only been bettered during this years INTERDOMINION i think??? Blacks A Fake about 1.55.00 ??? SONIC Would never have finished within 100 metres of BAF.
The race Tip Top Prince won in Melb was the Legends i think. About 3/1 with Bookies, Led all the way in about 1.57 from memory. One of the Knight horses was about Evens Fav.

Posted:
Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:33 pm
by stampy
good stuff jim! i reckon everyone but the bookies were on tippy that night at the valley