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Postby atlantahawks » Fri May 14, 2021 6:40 pm

With the recent passings of Gordon Schwartz and Brian Faehse, does anybody know who is the oldest (known) living SANFL player(s) right now? Perhaps Lloyd Weston?
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Postby Jim05 » Fri May 14, 2021 7:33 pm

Weston passed away a few years back I think.
Possibly Knuckles or Lindsay Head?
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby atlantahawks » Sat May 15, 2021 2:11 am

Yeh Kerls would be slightly older than Lindsay.. I think Pat hall is older than both of them and Im pretty sure he's still around
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Postby robranisgod » Sat May 15, 2021 1:01 pm

atlantahawks wrote:Yeh Kerls would be slightly older than Lindsay.. I think Pat hall is older than both of them and Im pretty sure he's still around

Pat Hall is still around but Darcy Cox, a dual North Adelaide premiership player and returned serviceman from the Second World War is 96 years of age and still going strong. Pat Hall would be about 91, Dean Stringer, another North dual premiership player will be 93 in July. He was at the Football the week before last.
Neil Kerley, Lindsay Head, John Halbert, Geof Motley and Chicken Hayes would all be around 87 years of age.
I think Alf Roberts from West Torrens is still alive also and would be into his 90s.
Getting back to Darcy Cox, he still played lawn bowls last season. In 2018 North had him toss the coin at the Anzac Day game. Despite being told by the club prior to the coin toss of Darcy's achievements Channel 7 didn't acknowledge him as a returned serviceman and dual premiership player. They showed the coin toss but couldn't devote one sentence to Darcy.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby robranisgod » Sat May 15, 2021 4:45 pm

robranisgod wrote:
atlantahawks wrote:Yeh Kerls would be slightly older than Lindsay.. I think Pat hall is older than both of them and Im pretty sure he's still around


Neil Kerley, Lindsay Head, John Halbert, Geof Motley and Chicken Hayes would all be around 87 years of age.


Neil Kerley is 87, Lindsay Head, Geof Motley and Chicken Hayes are 86 and John Halbert is "only" 84 as is Ron Kneebone
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon May 17, 2021 6:26 pm

Ian Day would be around that age too.

There was a Rex Johns in the Deaths on Saturday morning, aged 92. Would have this been the Port player?
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Postby robranisgod » Mon May 17, 2021 11:50 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:Ian Day would be around that age too.

There was a Rex Johns in the Deaths on Saturday morning, aged 92. Would have this been the Port player?


No. The former Port Full Forward passed away in 2009 at the age of 74

Ian Day is 86. There seems to be many ex league footballers still with us in their mid 80s but only a few in their 90s.

Neil Dansie, who of course is much better known as a cricketer but played footy for Norwood will be 93 in July this year.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby robranisgod » Tue May 18, 2021 12:10 am

robranisgod wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:Ian Day would be around that age too.

There was a Rex Johns in the Deaths on Saturday morning, aged 92. Would have this been the Port player?


No. The former Port Full Forward passed away in 2009 at the age of 74

Ian Day is 86. There seems to be many ex league footballers still with us in their mid 80s but only a few in their 90s.

Neil Dansie, who of course is much better known as a cricketer but played footy for Norwood will be 93 in July this year.
Stu

Another former player who would be into his 90s is former West and Sturt player, Glynn Williams. Glynn, of course is Fos Williams younger brother and was a fine player in his own right representing the state on 13 occasions.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby spell_check » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:47 pm

Ian Kleinig, b. 24/2/1925

https://www.facebook.com/SturtFootballC ... 9904433500

Alf Roberts is the last remaining 1945 premiership player, b. 27/2/1926

Another player (but best remembered as Torrens coach) born in 1926; I haven't seen any reference to passing away is Dick Jones.

I've tried to find any reference to these players from 1945 not being alive, on ancestry.com, My Heritage, Genealogy SA etc. and haven't found any:

3 1 1917 Sydney James Hall Glenelg
19 1 1919 James Edward Nicholls Norwood
6 9 1922 Desmond Bennett West
7 11 1924 Thomas Clifford Ryan South
5 10 1926 Leon Charles Crowhurst Norwood
21 5 1926 Ronald Charles Desmond Hay West
20 8 1927 Mostyn Antree Peter Bannister Norwood
10 10 1927 Robert Louis Paxton Norwood
19 1 1927 Herbert Paul Vincent Renner North
25 6 1927 Ronald Keith Smith West

-I hope the given names are correct, please correct me if I'm wrong, or let me know if you can tell me if they are, in fact, deceased.

There are another 32 players who I don't have a birth or death date for:

Thomas Barnes Torrens
A Bertram Sturt
Keith Brown South
T C Charlesworth South
Raymond J Cock Glenelg
Arthur J Collins South
James Crouch Sturt
Alan Dolman Port
William Dunn Torrens
W J Edwards Torrens
Arthur W Franklin Port
Ronald F Hall Port
Douglas M Hamilton Torrens
Reginald James Harvey Port
B Hewitt Norwood
William McFarlane Port
Peter Moore Sturt
Michael J Murphy South
William Owens Glenelg
Raymond S Phillips Torrens
William J Pike Glenelg
Clive Plant Sturt
William J Powell South
Richard Proctor Port
Keith Shepley Glenelg
Colin George Smith West
James Talbot Port
Jake Turner Torrens
W S Walsh Glenelg
Harold F Warne Sturt
Colin A Wilson South
Stanley Thomas Young Port

I think B Hewitt is Bryan b. 13/1/1924 d. 30/9/1992, and T.C Charlesworth is actually Trevor Lloyd or even Lloyd Trevor Charlesworth, b. 24/9/1920 d. 19/5/2004. I'm confident on Hewitt, but 50/50 on Charlesworth.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby robranisgod » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:54 am

spell_check wrote:Ian Kleinig, b. 24/2/1925

https://www.facebook.com/SturtFootballC ... 9904433500

Alf Roberts is the last remaining 1945 premiership player, b. 27/2/1926

Another player (but best remembered as Torrens coach) born in 1926; I haven't seen any reference to passing away is Dick Jones.

I've tried to find any reference to these players from 1945 not being alive, on ancestry.com, My Heritage, Genealogy SA etc. and haven't found any:

3 1 1917 Sydney James Hall Glenelg
19 1 1919 James Edward Nicholls Norwood
6 9 1922 Desmond Bennett West
7 11 1924 Thomas Clifford Ryan South
5 10 1926 Leon Charles Crowhurst Norwood
21 5 1926 Ronald Charles Desmond Hay West
20 8 1927 Mostyn Antree Peter Bannister Norwood
10 10 1927 Robert Louis Paxton Norwood
19 1 1927 Herbert Paul Vincent Renner North
25 6 1927 Ronald Keith Smith West

-I hope the given names are correct, please correct me if I'm wrong, or let me know if you can tell me if they are, in fact, deceased.

There are another 32 players who I don't have a birth or death date for:

Thomas Barnes Torrens
A Bertram Sturt
Keith Brown South
T C Charlesworth South
Raymond J Cock Glenelg
Arthur J Collins South
James Crouch Sturt
Alan Dolman Port
William Dunn Torrens
W J Edwards Torrens
Arthur W Franklin Port
Ronald F Hall Port
Douglas M Hamilton Torrens
Reginald James Harvey Port
B Hewitt Norwood
William McFarlane Port
Peter Moore Sturt
Michael J Murphy South
William Owens Glenelg
Raymond S Phillips Torrens
William J Pike Glenelg
Clive Plant Sturt
William J Powell South
Richard Proctor Port
Keith Shepley Glenelg
Colin George Smith West
James Talbot Port
Jake Turner Torrens
W S Walsh Glenelg
Harold F Warne Sturt
Colin A Wilson South
Stanley Thomas Young Port

I think B Hewitt is Bryan b. 13/1/1924 d. 30/9/1992, and T.C Charlesworth is actually Trevor Lloyd or even Lloyd Trevor Charlesworth, b. 24/9/1920 d. 19/5/2004. I'm confident on Hewitt, but 50/50 on Charlesworth.


Jake Turner, who scored 4 goals for West Torrens in the 1945 Grand Final, passed away on 22/11/2013 at 92 years of age. I don't have his date of birth, but I trust this will help. His given names were Ronald Jack Turner, but he was always known as Jake. I went to his funeral which was held at Fulham Funerals, Holbrooks Road.

Also Darcy Cox was born 4-1-1925 so he may well be the "clubhouse leader".

I thought that Dick Jones had passed away, but I can't find any reference to his death. He was still alive in 2008. There was an article about him in a Police Journal. He was a former policeman.
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Postby spell_check » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:18 pm

robranisgod wrote:Jake Turner, who scored 4 goals for West Torrens in the 1945 Grand Final, passed away on 22/11/2013 at 92 years of age. I don't have his date of birth, but I trust this will help. His given names were Ronald Jack Turner, but he was always known as Jake. I went to his funeral which was held at Fulham Funerals, Holbrooks Road.

Also Darcy Cox was born 4-1-1925 so he may well be the "clubhouse leader".

I thought that Dick Jones had passed away, but I can't find any reference to his death. He was still alive in 2008. There was an article about him in a Police Journal. He was a former policeman.


So for Turner, it's 26/10/1921, looking at GenealogySA...which is what I didn't do for Jones (just a general web search) - he passed away 16/1/2013.
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Postby robranisgod » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:49 pm

spell_check wrote:
robranisgod wrote:Jake Turner, who scored 4 goals for West Torrens in the 1945 Grand Final, passed away on 22/11/2013 at 92 years of age. I don't have his date of birth, but I trust this will help. His given names were Ronald Jack Turner, but he was always known as Jake. I went to his funeral which was held at Fulham Funerals, Holbrooks Road.

Also Darcy Cox was born 4-1-1925 so he may well be the "clubhouse leader".

I thought that Dick Jones had passed away, but I can't find any reference to his death. He was still alive in 2008. There was an article about him in a Police Journal. He was a former policeman.


So for Turner, it's 26/10/1921, looking at GenealogySA...which is what I didn't do for Jones (just a general web search) - he passed away 16/1/2013.

Dick Jones was born in Western Australia and started his career there with East Fremantle before moving to South Melbourne, then Glenelg and finally infamously West Torrens.
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Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:57 pm

Just saw a picture which reminded me, Clarrie Christensen, who played a game or 2 for Port is 96 years old, just had a pacemaker installed so should be good for another 96.
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Postby spell_check » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:32 pm

Ah yes, Clarence Jewell Christensen, b. 21 Dec 1925, played 1 match - Rd 4 1947 and scored 0.1.
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Postby spell_check » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:46 am

I haven't been able to definitively find any player who is alive older than Ian Kleinig yet; however one player in their 90s who was alive at the time of the question but has just recently passed away is Kevin Schimleck:

https://www.mytributes.com.au/notice/de ... n/5939035/

He appears as player #891 here, but I'm certain it has to be Schimleck:
https://www.safc.com.au/every-south-ade ... layer.html
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Postby spell_check » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:52 am

Obviously for some of these, I need to find a DOD, but here are all of the players I have that are 90+, that are/can still be around:

1893 Sydney C White Norwood
10 11 1897 Ernest Clarence Stone Torrens
12 7 1899 Percy Warren Taylor Torrens
21 2 1902 Wilfred Clarence Sparks Norwood
27 2 1904 Donald McKenzie Torrens
27 9 1904 Charles Carsbain Cantlow Daly Norwood
25 4 1906 John Alfred Eden Port
15 4 1907 Ronald Campbell Wilson Norwood
19 6 1907 Stirling James Dominic Martin South
9 9 1907 Reginald Vivian Williams Sturt
8 11 1908 Kenneth Alfred Gilbert Johnson Port
24 4 1910 John Peter Molan Torrens
16 10 1910 William Malcolm McKnight Torrens
23 2 1912 William Leslie John Page North
1 1 1915 Ronald Morton Henry Calder Norwood
19 12 1917 Henry Michael Gates Port
19 1 1919 James Edward Nicholls Norwood
27 1 1922 Neville Ray McSkimming South
6 9 1922 Desmond Bennett West
12 11 1923 Stanley Thomas Young Port
30 12 1923 Mervyn Arthur Roberts Norwood
24 2 1925 Ian Elmo Kleinig Sturt
2 3 1925 Frank Frederick Post North
1 7 1925 Kenneth Franklyn Trezise Sturt
15 10 1925 Arnold Edward Harker Norwood
21 12 1925 Clarence Jewell Christensen Port
27 2 1926 Alfred Charles Roberts Torrens
21 5 1926 Ronald Charles Desmond Hay West
19 1 1927 Herbert Paul Vincent Renner North
20 8 1927 Mostyn Antree Peter Bannister Norwood
14 11 1927 Kenneth Arthur Harris South
24 12 1927 Colin Francis Brown West
30 1 1928 Constantine Stephanos South
1 4 1928 Colin Frank Hockney Sturt
2 7 1928 Hampton Neil Dansie Norwood
18 7 1928 Allan Dean Stringer North
12 8 1928 Ian John Houston South
6 3 1929 Francis John Rushworth West
4 4 1929 Alan Lorimer Dowding Sturt
14 4 1929 Allan Murray Davies Norwood
26 4 1929 Malcolm Thomas Hewitson Port
28 4 1929 Philip Frederick Saunders Norwood
25 12 1929 Robert Noel Chapman South
31 12 1929 Walter Graham Bagshaw Sturt
26 3 1930 Wilfred John Muller West
6 7 1930 Bruce Norman Hentschke North
24 10 1930 Leslie Barry Fry Sturt
27 10 1930 Dennis M Rattigan Sturt
12 11 1930 Joseph Ralph Dunn North
6 12 1930 Brian Wells Norwood
13 12 1930 Wilfred Laurence Egan South
2 3 1931 Roy Victor Zerk West
8 3 1931 Allan John Martin North
21 11 1931 Milton Edwards Glenelg
1931 Geoffrey William Downey Torrens
13 1 1932 Desmond J Panizza South

Plus, I don't have a DOB for Pat Hall and Glynn Williams, who as far as I know are both alive.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby DOC » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:19 am

Pat Hall birthday is 24 Feb 1929. Still going ok.
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Re: Oldest living SANFL players

Postby DOC » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:22 am

Maxwell Esbert Kenner died 25 Feb 2022
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Postby DOC » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:31 am

Joseph Howard Fryar died 20 Sep 1979 (that is from Centennial Park I am not certain it is one and the same but possible )
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Postby robranisgod » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:30 pm

Marx Kretschmer passed away last Thursday, 16th June, 2022
Alf Roberts (Torrens)
Dean Stringer (North)
Neil Danise (Norwood)
Ralph Dunn (North)
are all still with us.
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