Good old years - the best, the worst and the characters

[FlyingHigh]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

[dedja]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

Ron Hateley was your classic receiver and actually quite a good player ... played on the wing, got a lot of the ball and I assume played over 200 games for South, but he'd never go in for it.

IMHO Roger Woodcock was the most efficient scorer in the history of the SANFL. He'd get 5 kicks and kick 4 goals a game ... I'd actually love to know what his average goals per game was over his career. Again, a receiver type player but he was really damaging.

[FlyingHigh]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

Ron Hateley was your classic receiver and actually quite a good player ... played on the wing, got a lot of the ball and I assume played over 200 games for South, but he'd never go in for it.

IMHO Roger Woodcock was the most efficient scorer in the history of the SANFL. He'd get 5 kicks and kick 4 goals a game ... I'd actually love to know what his average goals per game was over his career. Again, a receiver type player but he was really damaging.

Thank dedja. So the types of players you'd get really pissed off at as an opposition supporter.

Stuart Palmer is one player that never gets talked about in the history forum. As South's leading games holder, he must have been more than reasonable, and a pretty loyal type given their lack of success of the years?

[dedja]

As I remember, the best way I can describe Stuart Palmer is that he was like a Danny Frawley at St Kilda.

An absolutely dependable club man who'd always give 100% without standing out as a brilliant player.

... but I think the Panther supporters would be better qualified to comment.

[GWW]

I remember Palmer as being quite a dependable defender (along with Shane Butler and the Brooksbys) in a side that always struggled against the odds....the other thing i remember about him was that he was the worst radio football commentator i ever heard

[The Yetti]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

Ron Hateley was your classic receiver and actually quite a good player ... played on the wing, got a lot of the ball and I assume played over 200 games for South, but he'd never go in for it.

IMHO Roger Woodcock was the most efficient scorer in the history of the SANFL. He'd get 5 kicks and kick 4 goals a game ... I'd actually love to know what his average goals per game was over his career. Again, a receiver type player but he was really damaging.

That is a good review Dedja.
Hately was just over 6 foot, A Ranga from Tantanoola in the SE. His son Tom is currently playing for South Adelaide and would be close to playing 60 games I reckon.
Plenty of pace and a good kick. He would fit very well into todays game where it is open. Description as a classic receiver is spot on. I am sure he played a couple of state games and would have played more except SA insisted on picking just about every Centreman from the SANFL and playing them on the wings and half Forward

Woodcock was one of the best front and square players I have seen and was courageous. 601 or 603 goals and just the one right foot goal I believe. Also pretty sure he played State Footy

[The Yetti]

Remember Bronte Mumford. (nickname Thumper)
Played half back for North Adelaide.

Would just cut out a half forward.
Stats Mumford 0 kicks 30 spoils
Opponent 1 or 2 kicks

I think he was an awkward looking Left Footer...but hardly saw him have a kick.

[Magpiespower]

I'd add Bomber Clifford to the characters list...

[dedja]

I'd add Bomber Clifford to the characters list...

absolutely ... I mentioned in another post that I ran into Bomber a couple of years ago at the Entertainment Centre.

I was talking to him out the back with a mate and then next minute he's ducked around the corner and got his bong out. 5 mins later he's back in the conversation as if nothing has happened.

Who from the Bays remembers the sunday footy show (whatever it was called back then) in '85 or '86 after the grand final? Most of the Bay players were there in their premiership t-shirts and for some reason Bomber was there as well. In amongst all the mayhem he looks at one of the shirts and in his laid back style says ' wouldn't wear it crabbing'. Classic.

[The Yetti]

I'm not sold on Ebert being in teh worst coach category either but being away from Adelaide at the time I can't really comment with much authority. However three finals series in five years whilst Port renewed itself between era's....

for poor coaches surely you have to consider Olssen, Bennett, Weston and Higgins

I think Ebert may have been a bit unlucky in his time as coach at Port. Pretty sure that his appointment as coach coincided with the finish of big Bob McLean as GM at Port after years in the job. The whole administration at Port struggled for that time.

[dedja]

The Yetti, that was one of the odd things when I starting writing down names for these lists ... I've lived in the Norwood area all my life, went to Norwood High, played juniors for Norwood, but absolutely hated them. I nearly gave up footy after the '75 GF because it was the first Legs flag for 25 years and and every bloody pie and pasty night by the club what felt like for the next 100 years showed that GF.

So I was surprised when I came up with some Legs hard nuts like Turnbill and Jenkins ... and jeez, I hated splinterdick at the time but you have to respect his record.

[Hawker]

Two games I desperately want to get a copy of 82 Prelim and the 1983 or 84 game v Port at the Bay when it was carnage and Campbell gave the memorable half time speech that finished with, "Now go out there and do to them what they have done to you for the last 50 years..."

This the game at the Bay you have in mind (see avatar - 1983)?

Two memories about that game:
- up about 17 goals to 2, then Port get about 4 in a row, thinking "Surely they couldn't...?". Shows how Port messed with my head then (and most other times) It didn't last long on the day though
- Russell Ebert whining after the game to the media: "you've all got your wish, we will be out of the finals". (I was surprised, he is a champion, this sort of whinge didn't seem like him - but I enjoyed it anyway.)

[CK]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

Ron Hateley was your classic receiver and actually quite a good player ... played on the wing, got a lot of the ball and I assume played over 200 games for South, but he'd never go in for it.

IMHO Roger Woodcock was the most efficient scorer in the history of the SANFL. He'd get 5 kicks and kick 4 goals a game ... I'd actually love to know what his average goals per game was over his career. Again, a receiver type player but he was really damaging.

That is a good review Dedja.
Hately was just over 6 foot, A Ranga from Tantanoola in the SE. His son Tom is currently playing for South Adelaide and would be close to playing 60 games I reckon.
Plenty of pace and a good kick. He would fit very well into todays game where it is open. Description as a classic receiver is spot on. I am sure he played a couple of state games and would have played more except SA insisted on picking just about every Centreman from the SANFL and playing them on the wings and half Forward

Woodcock was one of the best front and square players I have seen and was courageous. 601 or 603 goals and just the one right foot goal I believe. Also pretty sure he played State Footy[/quote]

Might stand corrected, but I believe he held the record for most senior games without representing his state at SANFL level, for some time. It might be John Seebohm now.

[godoubleblues]

While I never really saw them play, what did or didn't Hateley and Woodcock do to get on the the "couraegeously challenged" list? After all they each played a heap of games.

Ron Hateley was your classic receiver and actually quite a good player ... played on the wing, got a lot of the ball and I assume played over 200 games for South, but he'd never go in for it.

IMHO Roger Woodcock was the most efficient scorer in the history of the SANFL. He'd get 5 kicks and kick 4 goals a game ... I'd actually love to know what his average goals per game was over his career. Again, a receiver type player but he was really damaging.

That is a good review Dedja.
Hately was just over 6 foot, A Ranga from Tantanoola in the SE. His son Tom is currently playing for South Adelaide and would be close to playing 60 games I reckon.
Plenty of pace and a good kick. He would fit very well into todays game where it is open. Description as a classic receiver is spot on. I am sure he played a couple of state games and would have played more except SA insisted on picking just about every Centreman from the SANFL and playing them on the wings and half Forward

Woodcock was one of the best front and square players I have seen and was courageous. 601 or 603 goals and just the one right foot goal I believe. Also pretty sure he played State Footy

Ron Hately 216 games for South, 4 state games

Roger Woodcock 267 games for Norwood, no state games, 602 goals, 2.25 goals per game

[Harry the Horse]

Two games I desperately want to get a copy of 82 Prelim and the 1983 or 84 game v Port at the Bay when it was carnage and Campbell gave the memorable half time speech that finished with, "Now go out there and do to them what they have done to you for the last 50 years..."

This the game at the Bay you have in mind (see avatar - 1983)?

Two memories about that game:
- up about 17 goals to 2, then Port get about 4 in a row, thinking "Surely they couldn't...?". Shows how Port messed with my head then (and most other times) It didn't last long on the day though
- Russell Ebert whining after the game to the media: "you've all got your wish, we will be out of the finals". (I was surprised, he is a champion, this sort of whinge didn't seem like him - but I enjoyed it anyway.)

Ah, that is so Port. They must teach that to them down there when they start losing badly. Sounds like Choco after a bad run of losses.
Best memory of that game in 83 was Holsty and Wayne Stringer lifting a couple of Port blokes into the third row. Pretty sure Tony Giles was one of them. Might have finished his career actually.

Tks Hawker, you've added to the enjoyment of my memory of that game!

[McAlmanac]

Great thread!

One player I'm struggling to fit into any one particular category is Ray Huppatz. 10 State games (5 as vice captain) and went on to an underrated VFL career before an Indian summer back at Port. If there was a "Rat Cunning" category, he might have fitted.

[dedja]

Great thread!

One player I'm struggling to fit into any one particular category is Ray Huppatz. 10 State games (5 as vice captain) and went on to an underrated VFL career before an Indian summer back at Port. If there was a "Rat Cunning" category, he might have fitted.

Interesting one ... I wouldn't have put Huppatz in the gifted category but he indeed was a great player. I know where you're coming from with the 'rat cunning' label.

Some players have a smart football brain but are not naturally gifted or out and out champions ... he would certainly fit into such a category.

[therisingblues]

Kevin Higgins would have to be in that worst coach category.

I agree with the Bays folk. I thought that Graham Campbell was pretty good in spite of that shocking start to the 1983 season.

[GWW]

Two games I desperately want to get a copy of 82 Prelim and the 1983 or 84 game v Port at the Bay when it was carnage and Campbell gave the memorable half time speech that finished with, "Now go out there and do to them what they have done to you for the last 50 years..."

This the game at the Bay you have in mind (see avatar - 1983)?

Two memories about that game:
- up about 17 goals to 2, then Port get about 4 in a row, thinking "Surely they couldn't...?". Shows how Port messed with my head then (and most other times) It didn't last long on the day though
- Russell Ebert whining after the game to the media: "you've all got your wish, we will be out of the finals". (I was surprised, he is a champion, this sort of whinge didn't seem like him - but I enjoyed it anyway.)

Ah, that is so Port. They must teach that to them down there when they start losing badly. Sounds like Choco after a bad run of losses.
Best memory of that game in 83 was Holsty and Wayne Stringer lifting a couple of Port blokes into the third row. Pretty sure Tony Giles was one of them. Might have finished his career actually.

Tks Hawker, you've added to the enjoyment of my memory of that game!

Actually sounded a bit like Cornes after the 1990 grand final.

[Magpiespower]

Actually sounded a bit like Cornes after the 1990 grand final.

One player I'm struggling to fit into any one particular category is Ray Huppatz. 10 State games (5 as vice captain) and went on to an underrated VFL career before an Indian summer back at Port. If there was a "Rat Cunning" category, he might have fitted.

And mark of the year in 1983.