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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:57 pm

The Bedge wrote:Fair recovery for NEK B grade on the weekend - 5/1 and then finished 194 thanks to some older heads digging in.

Still sub 200 on their ground, you'd have to think Royals in the box seat.

LOL @ Craig Delaney's figures.

At a guess, Baldo has a sighter, 6,6,out, new bloke gets out for a goldie.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:04 pm

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The Bedge wrote:Fair recovery for NEK B grade on the weekend - 5/1 and then finished 194 thanks to some older heads digging in.

Still sub 200 on their ground, you'd have to think Royals in the box seat.

LOL @ Craig Delaney's figures.

At a guess, Baldo has a sighter, 6,6,out, new bloke gets out for a goldie.

Think you're probably right :lol:
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Re: PDCA

Postby the joker » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:07 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Things are heating up in Grade 1 at the pointy end of the season.
Westies (88.50) Will have the minor premiership sewn up after Saturday as they'll score an outright win against the Gardens.
Dublin (81.59) A loss here could turn their season upside down as AV will jump above them, the Pines could win outright in the last round and Virginia will be within strking distance and will also be capable of an outright in round 14.
Vale (78.40) Probably the form team atm, I knew Andy Carman would become very dangerous with a few games under his belt, great bloke and tremendous competitor, they'll be pushing for an outright this weekend and then their round 14 clash at home against Westies will be a humdinger.
Pines (73.40) Will need to just dig in deep in the 2nd dig and stave off an outright.
Virginia (70.24) If anyone can chase down 234 on the road with a finals berth dangling as a carrot, Virginia can. Win this and then an outright win in the last could see them finish 2nd and a home final, beware of the sleeping giant.
Andy Carman was the sub so he’s not playing this week.
North Pines and Virginia will both be pushing for outright in the last round


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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:19 pm

the joker wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Things are heating up in Grade 1 at the pointy end of the season.
Westies (88.50) Will have the minor premiership sewn up after Saturday as they'll score an outright win against the Gardens.
Dublin (81.59) A loss here could turn their season upside down as AV will jump above them, the Pines could win outright in the last round and Virginia will be within strking distance and will also be capable of an outright in round 14.
Vale (78.40) Probably the form team atm, I knew Andy Carman would become very dangerous with a few games under his belt, great bloke and tremendous competitor, they'll be pushing for an outright this weekend and then their round 14 clash at home against Westies will be a humdinger.
Pines (73.40) Will need to just dig in deep in the 2nd dig and stave off an outright.
Virginia (70.24) If anyone can chase down 234 on the road with a finals berth dangling as a carrot, Virginia can. Win this and then an outright win in the last could see them finish 2nd and a home final, beware of the sleeping giant.
Andy Carman was the sub so he’s not playing this week.
North Pines and Virginia will both be pushing for outright in the last round




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That's gonna help your cause, he should've just opened and gone the slap.

Yeah, you guys have every opportunity to snare one, the downside is if you and Virginia get one, the average winning points for the round will be around 15-16, you'll need to be around 3 points behind Dublin as a minimum going into the round.

There's about a dozen scenario's that could easily unfold from here, just get through this round with minimal damage for now and score as many points as possible.
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Re: PDCA

Postby the joker » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:17 pm

Yeah. Virginia got gbe outright points for the game against EP as well. They should get average point like everyone else


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Re: PDCA

Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:10 pm

Great to see lots of possible finals scenarios available for both Grade 1 and 2. All eyes on Enfield to see whether they can hold Craigmore away from the outright in G2.
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Re: PDCA

Postby arvoteapig » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:35 pm

Ludicrous that the points for Virginia’s round one outright vs Eastern Park (thrown game) weren’t just wiped off in full & the bye to be awarded as zero points to each team. Some of the rules within the PDCA are simply absurd. The time ruling for 40 over games cutting overs short needing to be within a stupid time frame is just ridiculous. If a teams being belted around they just take longer and bowl less overs!!! Work that out...

Batting team deciding if they bat on after 65 overs in a two day game. If there’s overs left in a day, play them simple as that!!! All part of cricket!!!

All just ridiculous rules. I think that committee needs some fresh faces to make some changes.
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:12 am

arvoteapig wrote:Ludicrous that the points for Virginia’s round one outright vs Eastern Park (thrown game) weren’t just wiped off in full & the bye to be awarded as zero points to each team. Some of the rules within the PDCA are simply absurd. The time ruling for 40 over games cutting overs short needing to be within a stupid time frame is just ridiculous. If a teams being belted around they just take longer and bowl less overs!!! Work that out...

Batting team deciding if they bat on after 65 overs in a two day game. If there’s overs left in a day, play them simple as that!!! All part of cricket!!!

All just ridiculous rules. I think that committee needs some fresh faces to make some changes.

It's people before you that have made the rules needed, I think 165 minutes is more than enough to bowl 40 overs, it's designed to have all games be able to be completed by 7pm, it used to be a tactic for teams to drag through their overs to enforce a walk off to draw the match. If it's hot and there are excessive drink breaks it could take until 4:30 to squeeze 40 overs in, might not finish til 8.

I agree with the round 1 comment, outright points awarded in that manner is a bit wrong, it's hard to work out what is fair though given the Gardens get no points at all for round 4 when it was covided out.
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:34 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
arvoteapig wrote:Ludicrous that the points for Virginia’s round one outright vs Eastern Park (thrown game) weren’t just wiped off in full & the bye to be awarded as zero points to each team. Some of the rules within the PDCA are simply absurd. The time ruling for 40 over games cutting overs short needing to be within a stupid time frame is just ridiculous. If a teams being belted around they just take longer and bowl less overs!!! Work that out...

Batting team deciding if they bat on after 65 overs in a two day game. If there’s overs left in a day, play them simple as that!!! All part of cricket!!!

All just ridiculous rules. I think that committee needs some fresh faces to make some changes.

It's people before you that have made the rules needed, I think 165 minutes is more than enough to bowl 40 overs, it's designed to have all games be able to be completed by 7pm, it used to be a tactic for teams to drag through their overs to enforce a walk off to draw the match. If it's hot and there are excessive drink breaks it could take until 4:30 to squeeze 40 overs in, might not finish til 8.

I agree with the round 1 comment, outright points awarded in that manner is a bit wrong, it's hard to work out what is fair though given the Gardens get no points at all for round 4 when it was covided out.


That's what I don't like about the 'time' rule in one dayers as generally its the team doing well/ or the right thing that is punished and it can be used as a tactic.

The most common reason for the 40 overs is due to the batting side hitting lots of runs and in particular boundaries where receiving the ball back can take extra time. They are then the ones punished by losing batting overs.

Have also seen and heard bowling teams deliberately take a bit longer if they felt that reducing overs is in their favour, giving the batting team, less party overs. You then bat second knowing exactly what you need and when you need to start 'going the slog'
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:44 am

whufc wrote:
That's what I don't like about the 'time' rule in one dayers as generally its the team doing well/ or the right thing that is punished and it can be used as a tactic.

The most common reason for the 40 overs is due to the batting side hitting lots of runs and in particular boundaries where receiving the ball back can take extra time. They are then the ones punished by losing batting overs.

Have also seen and heard bowling teams deliberately take a bit longer if they felt that reducing overs is in their favour, giving the batting team, less party overs. You then bat second knowing exactly what you need and when you need to start 'going the slog'


We were having day out once so the opposition captain decided to field deep long off to deep long off, he trudged his way as slowly as possible between overs mumbling away the whole time when the umpire tried to hurry him along.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:55 am

The option to end a day early when you bowl out an opposition is a good one - there are so many times when Team A busts their backside in the field, rolls a side in the last few overs of a day then has to go out and face 3 or 4 overs at the end and lose a few wickets, when they deserve to finish the day in front.

The one day time thing has always irked me, that a side batting second appears to have a clear advantage to bowl slow - but the catch is bowlers can still bowl 8, so if have 30 overs for the 2nd dig, you're still gonna get max overs out of the best bowlers.
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:25 am

The Bedge wrote:The option to end a day early when you bowl out an opposition is a good one - there are so many times when Team A busts their backside in the field, rolls a side in the last few overs of a day then has to go out and face 3 or 4 overs at the end and lose a few wickets, when they deserve to finish the day in front.

The one day time thing has always irked me, that a side batting second appears to have a clear advantage to bowl slow - but the catch is bowlers can still bowl 8, so if have 30 overs for the 2nd dig, you're still gonna get max overs out of the best bowlers.


Oh yeah, I used to love going out to bowl for 5 or 6 overs late in the day with the trees providing patterned shade on the pitch.

You'd have to be pretty shallow to actually try bowling a slow over rate to shorten the amount of overs by a significant amount, most of the team would be ushering everyone through to get to sit down and chill for the afternoon, batting 2nd when it's 39 degrees was always a bit of a debate who has it worst.

Is it better to go bat after spending 2.5 hours in the raw heat or go out and field in the hottest part of the day when you've relaxed for most of the early afternoon.
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:14 am

There's a lot riding on Arifi's shoulders as the Royals resume at 3/81 chasing the Goats total of 167. With Cam and BJ already in the shed the rest of the line up looks a bit thin, Jimbo, Josh and Brett are all capable with the willow but they'll have Adam Smith bowling non stop from one end from the get go so they will be tested.

Nugget's 134 helped the Units to 286 which will be more than enough to defend against the inconsistent ATCO outfit, the Units have the bowling prowess to get the outright but I think time may hurt them.

What a boring day it must have been at Smithfield, 11/112 from 70 overs, in a game that Smithfield really needed maximum points, I can't see them getting them now. Ray Bickle 7/30 from 19 overs WTF? He hits good areas consistently, it's all it takes I guess. Smithfield will need to score quickly and take some decent points out of this game to lessen the pressure in the final round clash with Craigmore.

The Earwigs are in all sorts of trouble against the Blues, 1 for -42 will need a big innings from the skipper and Big Carl to turn this ship around, gonna be a tough day at the office.

Round 14 will see the battle for top spot between 1 & 2 along with 3 v 4 for a chance to play finals for only the winner.
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