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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:34 am

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Lightning McQueen wrote:For anyone that is interested, the under 16 competition is dying in the arse, at the start of the season we had Salisbury West, Craigmore, Penfield, Smithfield and Salisbury Juniors, since then it appears as though Penfield has pulled out turning it into a 4 team comp. If you have any players that can play in this age group let me know and we'll try and get Penfield up and running again.
This comp is fiiled with talent, I know that all clubs have pretty much just enough to fill a side, we are 1 short at the moment and are hopeful of picking up one or two more along the way. Given the dual registration rule, it would be good to get all of the best players around the area playing in this comp.
Keep a look out for some of the names in this comp as I reckon there will be at least 15 players that will be playing Grade 1 or 2 for their clubs in the next couple of years if they aren't already.


My fears for the future seem to be a reality now LM. Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall. The format of cricket must change. Sick of being told the juniors are strong. Yeh maybe in U/9 and 11.They were like that 5 years ago and where have these kids gone that are now in the u/16 age group.


Having 20/20 matches for juniors wont work, the top 4 or 5 will all bat and bowl and the rest will just pay their fees to watch. Under 16's should be scrapped all together, they go up by 2's until they hit 16's, maybe it should be 10's, 12's, 14's & 16's. we only put a team in because we didn't want to lose any juniors, we only had 6 to begin with.


I agree T20 not the answer but is part of the solution - I believe that the order should be changed around so everyone experiences opening batting at 3 etc - especially in the lower grades as the retention rate seems to be a problem, perhaps it is because kids arent getting a go
Mandate that the batting order must change each time you bat, that is your no10 & 11 must open next time and everyone pushes down the order

Perhaps it is time that coaches stopped playing to win premierships in juniors, maybe the PDCA sgould not have finals etc for U/10 & U/12 and make it about enjoying the game and not feeding some under rated has beens ego in saying they are a premiership coach (not all are like that but some are)


This does happen. We have a club rule that spans from A grade to under 11's and womens, you cannot bat in the bottom 3 if you don't bowl in the first 4, I see it so often that teams have the same kids bat high and bowl high.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:37 am

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My fears for the future seem to be a reality now LM. Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall. The format of cricket must change. Sick of being told the juniors are strong. Yeh maybe in U/9 and 11.They were like that 5 years ago and where have these kids gone that are now in the u/16 age group.


Having 20/20 matches for juniors wont work, the top 4 or 5 will all bat and bowl and the rest will just pay their fees to watch. Under 16's should be scrapped all together, they go up by 2's until they hit 16's, maybe it should be 10's, 12's, 14's & 16's. we only put a team in because we didn't want to lose any juniors, we only had 6 to begin with.


so once the kids turn 15 & 16 they should start playing senior cricket in the low grades so they all get a crack??


Last season all but one of our under 15's played seniors at some stage, some worked their way into the A's and B's, one of them played 10 A grade games.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Executive Member » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:37 am

happens at your club LM - should be mandated in kids throughout PDCA
I think it is a strange one for A Grade but understand the theory, if I was your A Grade captain and my four best bats were my four best bowlers I think I would have problems with the rule ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:40 am

Executive Member wrote:happens at your club LM - should be mandated in kids throughout PDCA
I think it is a strange one for A Grade but understand the theory, if I was your A Grade captain and my four best bats were my four best bowlers I think I would have problems with the rule ;)


I simply cannot believe an A grade would have players bat 11 and not bowl, I see it often and think to myself, how long before this dude gets sick of this. We probably shoot ourselves in the foot from time to time with it but we don't lose many players from lack of opportunity.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:42 am

Our 9 and 10 this week in the A's have both opened the A grade batting previously and have both scored A grade 50's, if our other opening bowler was playing he has an A grade 50 to his name and would've been in at 11.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Executive Member » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:59 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Our 9 and 10 this week in the A's have both opened the A grade batting previously and have both scored A grade 50's, if our other opening bowler was playing he has an A grade 50 to his name and would've been in at 11.


I know we tried to get Groover but he was told would probably bat 7 - thats the real reason he didnt come over ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Executive Member » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:01 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Iwasthere84 wrote:
Iwasthere84 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:For anyone that is interested, the under 16 competition is dying in the arse, at the start of the season we had Salisbury West, Craigmore, Penfield, Smithfield and Salisbury Juniors, since then it appears as though Penfield has pulled out turning it into a 4 team comp. If you have any players that can play in this age group let me know and we'll try and get Penfield up and running again.
This comp is fiiled with talent, I know that all clubs have pretty much just enough to fill a side, we are 1 short at the moment and are hopeful of picking up one or two more along the way. Given the dual registration rule, it would be good to get all of the best players around the area playing in this comp.
Keep a look out for some of the names in this comp as I reckon there will be at least 15 players that will be playing Grade 1 or 2 for their clubs in the next couple of years if they aren't already.


My fears for the future seem to be a reality now LM. Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall. The format of cricket must change. Sick of being told the juniors are strong. Yeh maybe in U/9 and 11.They were like that 5 years ago and where have these kids gone that are now in the u/16 age group.


Just quickly this round for the Lodge 17-19 players can not commit to 2 weeks cricket, for various reasons. Ten unavailable for both, 2 each to play A,B&C and 2 in the Ds for 1 week only. No wonder I have grey hair


Is Verbis, Rick or Bellman playing B's this week?


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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:06 am

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My fears for the future seem to be a reality now LM. Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall. The format of cricket must change. Sick of being told the juniors are strong. Yeh maybe in U/9 and 11.They were like that 5 years ago and where have these kids gone that are now in the u/16 age group.


Having 20/20 matches for juniors wont work, the top 4 or 5 will all bat and bowl and the rest will just pay their fees to watch. Under 16's should be scrapped all together, they go up by 2's until they hit 16's, maybe it should be 10's, 12's, 14's & 16's. we only put a team in because we didn't want to lose any juniors, we only had 6 to begin with.


so once the kids turn 15 & 16 they should start playing senior cricket in the low grades so they all get a crack??


Last season all but one of our under 15's played seniors at some stage, some worked their way into the A's and B's, one of them played 10 A grade games.



i think alot of it is that the kids these days are just not made of the same stuff as they were BACK in our day.. ie respect and attitude towards team mates coaches.. also the kids are getting smelly fingers at a earlier age these days and that would beat playing cricket maybe...
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Groover » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:08 am

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Lightning McQueen wrote:Our 9 and 10 this week in the A's have both opened the A grade batting previously and have both scored A grade 50's, if our other opening bowler was playing he has an A grade 50 to his name and would've been in at 11.


I know we tried to get Groover but he was told would probably bat 7 - thats the real reason he didnt come over ;)


Wouldnt wanna be spreading rumours now ex would we?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:11 am

catchit wrote:
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Lightning McQueen wrote:Having 20/20 matches for juniors wont work, the top 4 or 5 will all bat and bowl and the rest will just pay their fees to watch. Under 16's should be scrapped all together, they go up by 2's until they hit 16's, maybe it should be 10's, 12's, 14's & 16's. we only put a team in because we didn't want to lose any juniors, we only had 6 to begin with.


so once the kids turn 15 & 16 they should start playing senior cricket in the low grades so they all get a crack??


Last season all but one of our under 15's played seniors at some stage, some worked their way into the A's and B's, one of them played 10 A grade games.



i think alot of it is that the kids these days are just not made of the same stuff as they were BACK in our day.. ie respect and attitude towards team mates coaches.. also the kids are getting smelly fingers at a earlier age these days and that would beat playing cricket maybe...


Damn right there mate, at 9 years old I used to catch 2 buses to training or endure an hour walk to training and games only to continually miss out until the last round when nobody wanted to open against ATCO because of their long list of fast bowlers. Under 14's was the only grade available back then and I finally got my chance, nowadays if a kid misses out on a hit two games running the parents go ape droppings.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:13 am

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Is Verbis, Rick or Bellman playing B's this week?


I believe our sides are up on the web


No Rick anywhere, is he injured?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:17 am

another good point there is the parents.. they need to be seen and not heard on a sat.. nothing worse than a big mouth parent making a tool of themself in front of the kids.. dont rate that kind.. they need to take there parent hat off and see how hard the job is to coach a bunch of kids..
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:39 am

catchit wrote:another good point there is the parents.. they need to be seen and not heard on a sat.. nothing worse than a big mouth parent making a tool of themself in front of the kids.. dont rate that kind.. they need to take there parent hat off and see how hard the job is to coach a bunch of kids..


Hey mate, there's been times when I've looked around to see if someone else can umpire or score and I'm the only friggin parent there, to top it off I've had parents come up to me and tell me what I should be doing as a coach as soon as I've finished umpiring and I've had to ring my wife to come and score, I don't see them too often nowadays.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Eric_Gilchurch » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 am

Would you let this Adelaide man coach your kids in cricket? Watch the video and make a desicion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAj-CrMJ9Tw
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:55 am

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catchit wrote:another good point there is the parents.. they need to be seen and not heard on a sat.. nothing worse than a big mouth parent making a tool of themself in front of the kids.. dont rate that kind.. they need to take there parent hat off and see how hard the job is to coach a bunch of kids..


Hey mate, there's been times when I've looked around to see if someone else can umpire or score and I'm the only friggin parent there, to top it off I've had parents come up to me and tell me what I should be doing as a coach as soon as I've finished umpiring and I've had to ring my wife to come and score, I don't see them too often nowadays.



and that there is another reason for lack of numbers.. for some parents its all to hard..
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Executive Member » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:59 am

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Lightning McQueen wrote:Our 9 and 10 this week in the A's have both opened the A grade batting previously and have both scored A grade 50's, if our other opening bowler was playing he has an A grade 50 to his name and would've been in at 11.


I know we tried to get Groover but he was told would probably bat 7 - thats the real reason he didnt come over ;)


Wouldnt wanna be spreading rumours now ex would we?


I dont spread rumours Groover - I just state the facts 8)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:59 am

catchit wrote:
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catchit wrote:another good point there is the parents.. they need to be seen and not heard on a sat.. nothing worse than a big mouth parent making a tool of themself in front of the kids.. dont rate that kind.. they need to take there parent hat off and see how hard the job is to coach a bunch of kids..


Hey mate, there's been times when I've looked around to see if someone else can umpire or score and I'm the only friggin parent there, to top it off I've had parents come up to me and tell me what I should be doing as a coach as soon as I've finished umpiring and I've had to ring my wife to come and score, I don't see them too often nowadays.



and that there is another reason for lack of numbers.. for some parents its all to hard..


Junior coaches are often "free babysitters"
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:00 pm

Eric_Gilchurch wrote:Would you let this Adelaide man coach your kids in cricket? Watch the video and make a desicion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAj-CrMJ9Tw



funny as... gilchrist would ******* jump off a bridge if he seen that shot.. :lol:
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:03 pm

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catchit wrote:
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catchit wrote:another good point there is the parents.. they need to be seen and not heard on a sat.. nothing worse than a big mouth parent making a tool of themself in front of the kids.. dont rate that kind.. they need to take there parent hat off and see how hard the job is to coach a bunch of kids..


Hey mate, there's been times when I've looked around to see if someone else can umpire or score and I'm the only friggin parent there, to top it off I've had parents come up to me and tell me what I should be doing as a coach as soon as I've finished umpiring and I've had to ring my wife to come and score, I don't see them too often nowadays.



and that there is another reason for lack of numbers.. for some parents its all to hard..


Junior coaches are often "free babysitters"


fair call.. and just cant see it getting any better in the future..
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:12 pm

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Junior coaches are often "free babysitters"


fair call.. and just cant see it getting any better in the future..


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