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Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:36 pm
by maxi
Eagles2014 wrote:
Aerie wrote:Which will be a stronger standard of competition? 2nd Division or 2nd Grade?


Overall think the 2nd Division will be a stronger comp.

However, thought last year the 2nd Grade teams from Kensington and Glenelg would have beaten Southerns and Prospect 1st Grade teams.


I think you’ll Glenelgs recruiting spree will cost them a lot of b graders

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:39 pm
by maxi
Surely manenti wasn’t paid 20k no grade club could afford that

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:14 pm
by Eagles2014
maxi wrote:Surely manenti wasn’t paid 20k no grade club could afford that


Not sure about Manenti, no value to Adelaide at all if that was true.

Valente was paid $25k by Port last year, would think Andrews would not be cheap either.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:25 pm
by Minimum Chips
maxi wrote:Surely manenti wasn’t paid 20k no grade club could afford that

He was supposed to do some coaching but whether that happened or not. My mail was from a source that is usually around the mark. Eags - I heard it was more like $30K for Valente and they have plenty of $$ to splash around - hence the reason all these players are going there. They wouldn't be going there for the club culture or ambience of the locality!!

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:18 pm
by cokadonkeytoo
maxi wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Aerie wrote:Which will be a stronger standard of competition? 2nd Division or 2nd Grade?


Overall think the 2nd Division will be a stronger comp.

However, thought last year the 2nd Grade teams from Kensington and Glenelg would have beaten Southerns and Prospect 1st Grade teams.


I think you’ll Glenelgs recruiting spree will cost them a lot of b graders


McCabe gone to Port
Walmsley-Pace to Brighton
Boschma taking a year off
McInerney to ATCA as well

I believe

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:22 pm
by Eagles2014
cokadonkeytoo wrote:
maxi wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Aerie wrote:Which will be a stronger standard of competition? 2nd Division or 2nd Grade?


Overall think the 2nd Division will be a stronger comp.

However, thought last year the 2nd Grade teams from Kensington and Glenelg would have beaten Southerns and Prospect 1st Grade teams.


I think you’ll Glenelgs recruiting spree will cost them a lot of b graders


McCabe gone to Port
Walmsley-Pace to Brighton
Boschma taking a year off
McInerney to ATCA as well

I believe


Suppose they finally got their Premiership after several GF losses, so don’t blame them for moving on.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:28 am
by The Hound
Eags 2014- think you will find that Boschma, W-Pace and McCabe won 2 flags in 3 years. 20/21 they played in one, lost 21/22 and won 22/23 so not sure that constitutes GF losses.

Hearing Kerr may focus on his band a bit more so will be interesting to see how they manage that if true

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:37 am
by Eagles2014
The Hound wrote:Eags 2014- think you will find that Boschma, W-Pace and McCabe won 2 flags in 3 years. 20/21 they played in one, lost 21/22 and won 22/23 so not sure that constitutes GF losses.

Hearing Kerr may focus on his band a bit more so will be interesting to see how they manage that if true


Yep, sorry, you are correct. For some reason thought they lost two in a row, but they beat Kensy couple of years ago. Been such a consistent team for a long time.

If McCabe knew about Damon he may not have gone to Port where he wont keep :shock:

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:29 pm
by Insider_Trading
Program appears to have been officially released today.

Starts with a full weekend of T20 October 7 and 8.
One day cricket the weekend after
Two day cricket and the official start of two division cricket begins with a Saturday/Sunday game on October 28/29.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:51 am
by Aerie
Insider_Trading wrote:Program appears to have been officially released today.

Starts with a full weekend of T20 October 7 and 8.
One day cricket the weekend after
Two day cricket and the official start of two division cricket begins with a Saturday/Sunday game on October 28/29.


The two shorter format comps appear to run over 5 Rounds with each team playing 4 games and having a bye before finals. That’s a better scenario than previous seasons where it was 4 rounds and 4 teams only played 3 games.

10 2-day matches. A full home and away comp for Div 2. In Div 1 you play 3 teams twice, the rest once.

Wouldn’t have been easy putting the program together.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:52 am
by Tony Clifton
That's weird

I just assumed it would be 7 x 2 day games and 7 x 1 day games in Division 1.

In a promotion/relegation system I don't think you should have skewed draws like that.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:31 am
by Eagles2014
Tony Clifton wrote:That's weird

I just assumed it would be 7 x 2 day games and 7 x 1 day games in Division 1.

In a promotion/relegation system I don't think you should have skewed draws like that.


Agree, could be crucial which three clubs you play twice :shock:

As Aerie said, would not have been easy though to do the draw.

What happens to awards like the Bradman Medal, only Div 1 players can win that? Do they need a "new" medal for Div 2 now?

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:18 pm
by Minimum Chips
Eagles2014 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:That's weird

I just assumed it would be 7 x 2 day games and 7 x 1 day games in Division 1.

In a promotion/relegation system I don't think you should have skewed draws like that.


Agree, could be crucial which three clubs you play twice :shock:

As Aerie said, would not have been easy though to do the draw.

What happens to awards like the Bradman Medal, only Div 1 players can win that? Do they need a "new" medal for Div 2 now?

Also - looks like the Div 2 clubs have been set up to fail in the white ball comps. In the 50 over comp - all of them have 3 of their 4 games against Div 1 clubs (except Prospect with 2) and the T20 Sturt, ND and Prospect 3 of their 4 games against Div 1 clubs (Adelaide 2 and SD 1). Easy points for the Div 1 clubs who would be loaded up with recruits.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:10 pm
by Shark_Hunter
Minimum Chips wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:That's weird

I just assumed it would be 7 x 2 day games and 7 x 1 day games in Division 1.

In a promotion/relegation system I don't think you should have skewed draws like that.


Agree, could be crucial which three clubs you play twice :shock:

As Aerie said, would not have been easy though to do the draw.

What happens to awards like the Bradman Medal, only Div 1 players can win that? Do they need a "new" medal for Div 2 now?

Also - looks like the Div 2 clubs have been set up to fail in the white ball comps. In the 50 over comp - all of them have 3 of their 4 games against Div 1 clubs (except Prospect with 2) and the T20 Sturt, ND and Prospect 3 of their 4 games against Div 1 clubs (Adelaide 2 and SD 1). Easy points for the Div 1 clubs who would be loaded up with recruits.


Quite a few of these games were requested by clubs that play for annual cups/shields that won't happen in the 2 Div red ball structure. Double up games in Div 1 will be sorted by previous year ladder position, something like 1,4,5,8 double up against each other as do 2,3,6,7. Probably needs to be some standard about max and min games Div 1 & 2 clubs will play against each other in white ball - might be sorted out in coming seasons?

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:04 pm
by Aerie
Tony Clifton wrote:That's weird

I just assumed it would be 7 x 2 day games and 7 x 1 day games in Division 1.

In a promotion/relegation system I don't think you should have skewed draws like that.


Would they consider playing 3-day games instead of 2-day for 1st Grade? Play them as Sat/Sat/Sun. Could then just play each team once. Top 2 plays a 4-day final Sat/Sun/Sat/Sun. Teams are already playing 6 Sunday’s in the fixture this year. Play the entire one day comp on Saturday’s including the final and it doesn’t really end up being more Sunday cricket, but you get a fairer fixture and a longer format, closer to Shield 4-day cricket.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:50 am
by Tony Clifton
That's a brilliant idea

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:09 am
by maxi
Glenelg continues to lose fringe/depth players Thompson to Adelaide

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:29 am
by Eagles2014
maxi wrote:Glenelg continues to lose fringe/depth players Thompson to Adelaide


Interesting, been very loyal to Bays as know he has been targeted by a few clubs recently :shock:

Straight swap for Pengelly's?

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:30 pm
by The Hound
Eagles2014 wrote:
maxi wrote:Glenelg continues to lose fringe/depth players Thompson to Adelaide


Interesting, been very loyal to Bays as know he has been targeted by a few clubs recently :shock:

Straight swap for Pengelly's?


All the lads that are leaving the Seahorses have been there since junior days. You just hope the playing culture doesn't suffer, they have been a pretty tight night group.
This will test the depth of their playing stocks, when the big guns and recruits are not playing.

Huw Stone maybe back after missing most of last season with a knee and hearing Dand may play as well.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:10 am
by daysofourlives
Are the junior structures still the same 2xu14 and 2xu16?