Grade Cricket

[Moe]

Looks like a few Friday phone calls for some clubs to get 11 players for 4th Grade, consequence of LIV golf perhaps

It's been a frigging nightmare in our club this week (asca) trying to get 6 teams up

[Minimum Chips]

Some of us mentioned last week (myself included) that Port looked gone this season and headed to Div. 2 next season.
How things change so quickly as an outright could be on the cards for them this week!!
2 rounds left and it could be any one of Port, Adelaide and Glenelg that could be joining Uni in Div 2 next year.
Glenelg won't be winning this week and they have a very tough last 2 games so they might be getting a bit nervous?

[Bluedemon]

Looks like a few Friday phone calls for some clubs to get 11 players for 4th Grade, consequence of LIV golf perhaps

And why are they still keeping this grade going when it should be almost an Under 21s competition

[Lightning McQueen]

Looks like a few Friday phone calls for some clubs to get 11 players for 4th Grade, consequence of LIV golf perhaps

And why are they still keeping this grade going when it should be almost an Under 21s competition

Excuse my ignorance, but why under 21's? If your balls haven't dropped as a cricketer by then they aren't going to.

[The Hound]

Glenelg would be hoping for the predicated inclement weather to come in, get some points through a draw (could Hags stand near Frogbox and give his thoughts if that was the scenario ) but when was the last time it rained!
T20 comp winners, winners/runners up in 1 day comp and relegated in 2 day comp would be unusual. Never know the book worms lawyers may have something to say about relegation.

4th Grade as a U/21 comp with 2 - 3 older players would keep some younger players around as the jump up from 16/17's to senior cricket stops lads from playing (as it seems "scary") and little Billy's mum doesn't want him facing quick bowlers. Other factors do contribute, like getting on the pi$$ with your mates, girls and work, however it would be better for the comp having 18/19/20-year-olds running around and would also capture the young fellas who are late bloomers.

Would also attract more spectators if little Billy's mum let him play and came and watched him

[Bluedemon]

Glenelg would be hoping for the predicated inclement weather to come in, get some points through a draw (could Hags stand near Frogbox and give his thoughts if that was the scenario ) but when was the last time it rained!
T20 comp winners, winners/runners up in 1 day comp and relegated in 2 day comp would be unusual. Never know the book worms lawyers may have something to say about relegation.

4th Grade as a U/21 comp with 2 - 3 older players would keep some younger players around as the jump up from 16/17's to senior cricket stops lads from playing (as it seems "scary") and little Billy's mum doesn't want him facing quick bowlers. Other factors do contribute, like getting on the pi$$ with your mates, girls and work, however it would be better for the comp having 18/19/20-year-olds running around and would also capture the young fellas who are late bloomers.

Would also attract more spectators if little Billy's mum let him play and came and watched him

Going by the BOM app, rain not predicted until after 7pm

[daysofourlives]

Im putting this in here as theres more traffic and someone might know the answer and where to find it.
I have searched the MCC laws of the game and SACA By-laws and cant find anything about contrived results. I always thought there was something mentioned somewhere.

In a B&L A1 match yesterday Tanunda 9/260 and 1/11d (1over) defeated by Kapunda 8/261 and 0/11 (1over)
A couple points about this, Tanunda gave themselves no chance of winning considering they needed to take 10 wickets in 6 balls. This more than qualifies as a contrived result.
There was an agreement made that if Kapunda didnt get the runs in their one over that they would declare their innings closed. It is the only possible reason that Tanunda would agree to this. Im sure i have read before that you cant declare in the 4th innings of a game.(not that this happened but that was the intention)
It definitely doesnt pass the pub test.
As a result Kapunda jumped from 3rd to 2nd and will host their semi final. Tanunda miss finals but had they picked up the win in the 2nd innings would have finished 4th.
Im not involved with either club nor the club that ended up 3rd instead of 2nd as a result of this.

[helicopterking]

Kensington make a mess of Glenelg in the One Day Cup.

[Tony Clifton]

Im putting this in here as theres more traffic and someone might know the answer and where to find it.
I have searched the MCC laws of the game and SACA By-laws and cant find anything about contrived results. I always thought there was something mentioned somewhere.

In a B&L A1 match yesterday Tanunda 9/260 and 1/11d (1over) defeated by Kapunda 8/261 and 0/11 (1over)
A couple points about this, Tanunda gave themselves no chance of winning considering they needed to take 10 wickets in 6 balls. This more than qualifies as a contrived result.
There was an agreement made that if Kapunda didnt get the runs in their one over that they would declare their innings closed. It is the only possible reason that Tanunda would agree to this. Im sure i have read before that you cant declare in the 4th innings of a game.(not that this happened but that was the intention)
It definitely doesnt pass the pub test.
As a result Kapunda jumped from 3rd to 2nd and will host their semi final. Tanunda miss finals but had they picked up the win in the 2nd innings would have finished 4th.
Im not involved with either club nor the club that ended up 3rd instead of 2nd as a result of this.

That's rubbish by those clubs and should be penalised

This clause is pretty standard in most competitions

The Premier Cricket Committee may investigate a match or the actions of the
captains of the teams or any player involved in a match if it reasonably suspects that
the competing teams with or without the assistance of any other person or club
have:
(i) Colluded to contrive the result of a match; or
(ii) Unreasonably declared; or
(iii) Forfeited an innings in the match.

[Eagles2014]

Kensington make a mess of Glenelg in the One Day Cup.

Disappointing final, was an absolute thrashing. Bays must have nightmares with their GF record over many years now

Who won the medal for best player, assume maybe Leddicoat?

[Tony Clifton]

Yes Leddicoat won the medal. Bit of a turnaround for him as his bowling got destroyed in the T20 final. McInerney and Winter both out caught on the legside set the tone.

Strange season for Glenelg. In both white ball grand finals but sitting 7th. Surely too good to get relegated. Adelaide running out of steam a bit, might be vulnerable.

[Eagles2014]

Yes Leddicoat won the medal. Bit of a turnaround for him as his bowling got destroyed in the T20 final. McInerney and Winter both out caught on the legside set the tone.

Strange season for Glenelg. In both white ball grand finals but sitting 7th. Surely too good to get relegated. Adelaide running out of steam a bit, might be vulnerable.

Adelaide lose their other Pom, Tom Clark, from this week so they are very vulnerable. Don’t think they get any more points for rest of season.

The problem for Glenelg is they need another win to go above them. Maybe Sturt this week their best chance, going to be tough against Kensy in last round.

Port look like being safe now, should beat Uni this week to get above Adelaide.

Top four looks set now, just depends on the placings. When players lose their Poms could decide that. Think Sturt looking vulnerable, and their Poms going makes them even weaker.

For those reasons I think Kensy and TTG make the GF, and Uni and Glenelg go down (who would have predicted that ).

[Tony Clifton]

TTGs batting looks strong. They wouldn't want Oakley to pick up an injury though. Really their only consistent wicket taking threat. They need a rainy March and some greentops to take 10 wickets in finals.

Redbacks in the Shield final will impact line ups a bit.
Grade semi final Mar 22 / Mar 23
Grade grand final Mar 29 / Mar 30

Redbacks have their Rnd 10 game Mar 15-18 then the final Mar 26-30. They'll cotton wool their whole squad you'd think.

[Eagles2014]

TTGs batting looks strong. They wouldn't want Oakley to pick up an injury though. Really their only consistent wicket taking threat. They need a rainy March and some greentops to take 10 wickets in finals.

Redbacks in the Shield final will impact line ups a bit.
Grade semi final Mar 22 / Mar 23
Grade grand final Mar 29 / Mar 30

Redbacks have their Rnd 10 game Mar 15-18 then the final Mar 26-30. They'll cotton wool their whole squad you'd think.

That’s a very good point TC, going to make it very interesting.

Again, reinforces why TTG odds shorten. They literally lose nobody. If they can get a home Semi and bat for 100 overs won’t need to take 10 wickets. They struggled to the last over or so to get Uni out which is a worry.

We have not had a wet weekend all year, just got bad feeling will hit us during the finals

[Aerie]

I think a slight adjustment in the divisional structure would be beneficial.

Get rid of the current 1st grade split division

10 teams in Div 1 (This years Div 1 + Div 2 Grand Finalists)
10 teams in Div 2 (3 Lowest 1st Grade Div 2 Teams + SACA U19 if that is working + Top 6 2nd Grade Teams)
10 teams in Div 3 (Bottom 7 2nd Grade + Top 3 3rd Grade)
10 teams in Div 4 (Bottom 10 3rd Grade Teams)

Can only have one team from each club in each division. Only one team gains promotion, subject to not already fielding a team in the division they'd be promoted to. A bit more stability and it seems 10 teams is about the sweet spot.

If they want to persist with 4th Grade/transition grade, so be it. Maybe make it a 13 team Sunday 40 over competition which caters for the high movement of players in above grades throughout the season thanks to State Cricket/BBL/College cricket etc.

[Gosaints]

Im putting this in here as theres more traffic and someone might know the answer and where to find it.
I have searched the MCC laws of the game and SACA By-laws and cant find anything about contrived results. I always thought there was something mentioned somewhere.

In a B&L A1 match yesterday Tanunda 9/260 and 1/11d (1over) defeated by Kapunda 8/261 and 0/11 (1over)
A couple points about this, Tanunda gave themselves no chance of winning considering they needed to take 10 wickets in 6 balls. This more than qualifies as a contrived result.
There was an agreement made that if Kapunda didnt get the runs in their one over that they would declare their innings closed. It is the only possible reason that Tanunda would agree to this. Im sure i have read before that you cant declare in the 4th innings of a game.(not that this happened but that was the intention)
It definitely doesnt pass the pub test.
As a result Kapunda jumped from 3rd to 2nd and will host their semi final. Tanunda miss finals but had they picked up the win in the 2nd innings would have finished 4th.
Im not involved with either club nor the club that ended up 3rd instead of 2nd as a result of this.

That's rubbish by those clubs and should be penalised

This clause is pretty standard in most competitions

The Premier Cricket Committee may investigate a match or the actions of the
captains of the teams or any player involved in a match if it reasonably suspects that
the competing teams with or without the assistance of any other person or club
have:
(i) Colluded to contrive the result of a match; or
(ii) Unreasonably declared; or
(iii) Forfeited an innings in the match.

This is a horrible outcome for cricket. Both clubs should be embarrassed.

I see the Tanunda captain also captains the Outbacks - what a joke - should never represent the Outbacks again - and probably never should have in the first place.

[maxi]

Top 4 settled in div 1 uni to go down who’ll join them ports outright win has them well poised to stay up with uni to come this week Adelaide have had 2 shockers beaten outright 2 games in a row but play uni in last round
Looks like Glenelg could be the one have Sturt and Kensington to finish and probably no state players available be amazing if a strong club like them are relegated to div 2

[maxi]

Im putting this in here as theres more traffic and someone might know the answer and where to find it.
I have searched the MCC laws of the game and SACA By-laws and cant find anything about contrived results. I always thought there was something mentioned somewhere.

In a B&L A1 match yesterday Tanunda 9/260 and 1/11d (1over) defeated by Kapunda 8/261 and 0/11 (1over)
A couple points about this, Tanunda gave themselves no chance of winning considering they needed to take 10 wickets in 6 balls. This more than qualifies as a contrived result.
There was an agreement made that if Kapunda didnt get the runs in their one over that they would declare their innings closed. It is the only possible reason that Tanunda would agree to this. Im sure i have read before that you cant declare in the 4th innings of a game.(not that this happened but that was the intention)
It definitely doesnt pass the pub test.
As a result Kapunda jumped from 3rd to 2nd and will host their semi final. Tanunda miss finals but had they picked up the win in the 2nd innings would have finished 4th.
Im not involved with either club nor the club that ended up 3rd instead of 2nd as a result of this.

That's rubbish by those clubs and should be penalised

This clause is pretty standard in most competitions

The Premier Cricket Committee may investigate a match or the actions of the
captains of the teams or any player involved in a match if it reasonably suspects that
the competing teams with or without the assistance of any other person or club
have:
(i) Colluded to contrive the result of a match; or
(ii) Unreasonably declared; or
(iii) Forfeited an innings in the match.

This is a horrible outcome for cricket. Both clubs should be embarrassed.

I see the Tanunda captain also captains the Outbacks - what a joke - should never represent the Outbacks again - and probably never should have in the first place.

Sounds like both skippers had a brain fade probably would like their time again don’t know them but sometimes adrenaline kicks in and poor decisions are made

[daysofourlives]

Im putting this in here as theres more traffic and someone might know the answer and where to find it.
I have searched the MCC laws of the game and SACA By-laws and cant find anything about contrived results. I always thought there was something mentioned somewhere.

In a B&L A1 match yesterday Tanunda 9/260 and 1/11d (1over) defeated by Kapunda 8/261 and 0/11 (1over)
A couple points about this, Tanunda gave themselves no chance of winning considering they needed to take 10 wickets in 6 balls. This more than qualifies as a contrived result.
There was an agreement made that if Kapunda didnt get the runs in their one over that they would declare their innings closed. It is the only possible reason that Tanunda would agree to this. Im sure i have read before that you cant declare in the 4th innings of a game.(not that this happened but that was the intention)
It definitely doesnt pass the pub test.
As a result Kapunda jumped from 3rd to 2nd and will host their semi final. Tanunda miss finals but had they picked up the win in the 2nd innings would have finished 4th.
Im not involved with either club nor the club that ended up 3rd instead of 2nd as a result of this.

Kapunda stripped of their outright win, good decision.

[Insider_Trading]

5 first grade players were reported last round.

Must have been a few cranky pills taken in the last couple of weeks.