Grade Cricket 2008/09

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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Bag The Points » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:55 pm

I've watched Joel progress through the Stingray ranks since age ten. Has always looked like something special. Fantastic to see him kick off the Carnival with runs.
Well done also to the two lads with the tons. Their clubs must be proud of them and rightly so.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:58 am

A quick hypothetical for all those grade cricket lovers out there... you have to cull the comp from 13 teams to 8.... which 5 do you leave out????..........
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:08 am

The Angry Bull wrote:A quick hypothetical for all those grade cricket lovers out there... you have to cull the comp from 13 teams to 8.... which 5 do you leave out????..........



I dont think you can cull 5 teams. If you were to re-shape grade cricket you would have to merge clubs where possible
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby shoe boy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:16 am

Footy Smart wrote:
The Angry Bull wrote:A quick hypothetical for all those grade cricket lovers out there... you have to cull the comp from 13 teams to 8.... which 5 do you leave out????..........



I dont think you can cull 5 teams. If you were to re-shape grade cricket you would have to merge clubs where possible


Geographically would be the one way of looking at it RE- the most Northern/Southern/Eastern and fight it out in the middle??
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:55 am

Surely there wouldnt be to many clubs interested in merging... who would merge FS?????
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Pumba » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:58 am

I totally agree that some clubs must be cut to improve the standard. I think initally just go to a 10 team comp. Therefore 3 clubs must go...I think Uni should go since they have no juniors and this is what it is all about however they should merge. Other clubs should encouraged to merge to protect themselves also. However there must be a time when SACA steps in and makes the decision for the good of the comp and state cricket.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:14 am

I totally agree that some clubs must be cut to improve the standard. I think initally just go to a 10 team comp. Therefore 3 clubs must go...I think Uni should go since they have no juniors and this is what it is all about however they should merge. Other clubs should encouraged to merge to protect themselves also. However there must be a time when SACA steps in and makes the decision for the good of the comp and state cricket.


Your right Pumba... i think going for the juggular with 8 may of been a bit much, 10 sounds like a reasonable option... I think mergeing would be a great idea im just not sure too many clubs would buy into it though... There is no any certain time for SACA to step in... they run the bloody game they should be doing something productive with these options for the good of SA cricket.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Bluedemon » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:44 am

The best would be to take it back to a 10 team comp. That way the best players are fighting for the spots, there are too many average players getting a A grade game. You could merge East Torrens with Uni and share Uni oval and campbelltown. Prospect and Port Adelaide could merge together and base themselves from Port Reserve. Those are a couple of clubs that come to mind.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Pumba » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:52 am

I dont know enough about the clubs geographically but that sounds like the right idea. I think it should be made to happen asap ie for the 09/10 season. SACA needs to get serious. I think that after a season as a 10 team comp D grade should be cut. Give it a season for player and clubs to sort out who they need and then cut D grad as it is an appaling standard and promotes mediocrity around the clubs.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:21 pm

Spot on... it seems to me like a lot of clubs are carrying some dead wood... and you would find that they would be out of thier depth in the turf comp too. All i can say is that competition breeds improvement... lets start to make things competitive at Club level and we might start seeing some decent results from SA blokes in higher levels.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:22 pm

Im currently playing in the D grade and enjoy watching the young kids come through. There are currently 4 kids who are 15-16 playing D Grade that will play higher grades for many years to come for my club. The opportunity isnt there for them to go up and they are still developing physically and cricket wise. Game by game they show a little bit more talent a little bit more composure and in time will play A/B grade.

If we didnt have D Grade these kids would be lost to district cricket. I would suggest maybe an under 18 comp to keep these kids developing and around the system
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby heater31 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:35 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Im currently playing in the D grade and enjoy watching the young kids come through. There are currently 4 kids who are 15-16 playing D Grade that will play higher grades for many years to come for my club. The opportunity isnt there for them to go up and they are still developing physically and cricket wise. Game by game they show a little bit more talent a little bit more composure and in time will play A/B grade.

If we didnt have D Grade these kids would be lost to district cricket. I would suggest maybe an under 18 comp to keep these kids developing and around the system



unless you play Port Adelaide or University FS is right on the money. There are some good kids out there in the lower grades. It is just frustrating in that grade that as a bowler when you bowl a good ball it is just far too good at that level and ends up a dot ball. I should know as in the past 2 games (already fielded for the current game) I have only conceded 64 runs in 51 overs and only taken 6 wickets ](*,) ~x( :-\
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:48 pm

heater31 wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Im currently playing in the D grade and enjoy watching the young kids come through. There are currently 4 kids who are 15-16 playing D Grade that will play higher grades for many years to come for my club. The opportunity isnt there for them to go up and they are still developing physically and cricket wise. Game by game they show a little bit more talent a little bit more composure and in time will play A/B grade.

If we didnt have D Grade these kids would be lost to district cricket. I would suggest maybe an under 18 comp to keep these kids developing and around the system



unless you play Port Adelaide or University FS is right on the money. There are some good kids out there in the lower grades. It is just frustrating in that grade that as a bowler when you bowl a good ball it is just far too good at that level and ends up a dot ball. I should know as in the past 2 games (already fielded for the current game) I have only conceded 64 runs in 51 overs and only taken 6 wickets ](*,) ~x( :-\


I was one of these 15-16yo kids who slugged it out each week in the c and d grade learning the game. Then it clicked and i was rewarded and played a few seasons of B grade before injury has seen me unable to bowl anymore.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Pumba » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:07 pm

i understand it may be hard for some of the kids coming up, they may have the talent but not be physically up for grade cricket yet. i think the D grade could easily be changed to an u21 comp, with maybe 2 or 3 overage player. it would still be considered as a 4ths side, ie if you preform well go into the C grade. This will get rid of alot of the old blokes who take up spots in the teams for the kids
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:32 pm

Pumba wrote:i understand it may be hard for some of the kids coming up, they may have the talent but not be physically up for grade cricket yet. i think the D grade could easily be changed to an u21 comp, with maybe 2 or 3 overage player. it would still be considered as a 4ths side, ie if you preform well go into the C grade. This will get rid of alot of the old blokes who take up spots in the teams for the kids



I think an under 21 comp with and un under 30 overage limit of 2 players could be good. but the thing is we need to keep these kids in grade cricket cos if they leave they may never come back
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby Bag The Points » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:36 pm

At Southern we have the very situation as described by Footy Smart ----- young kids with ability who in time could develop into A's or B's. I'd hate to see the number of grades reduced, but replacing D's with an underage grade where no more than 2 or 3 older players are permitted (for guidance) sounds good.
Under-21 sounds a bit too big though ---- I'd go for 18 or 19
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:54 pm

U/19's would be the logical age group IMO
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby abber » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:10 pm

Hey Bag the Points

Being from Southern you'd be happy with 3 kids getting into the State Under 17 squad but wouldn't think you'd be happy with the one that missed out.

From what I've heard the off spinner Joraslafsky's taken 20 wickets at C and recently B grade level at average of about 13. He's missed out and the legspinner Williams from Northern who's taken 6 wickets @ 19 has got in.

My mail is the feedback Joraslafsky got from coach Russell Thompson was that Williams "got over the line" because he's a better fielder.

Also heard the 6 bowlers picked for the team have taken 26 SACA wickets between them this season.

Explain that one.
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby heater31 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:18 pm

abber wrote:
My mail is the feedback Joraslafsky got from coach Russell Thompson was that Williams "got over the line" because he's a better fielder.

Also heard the 6 bowlers picked for the team have taken 26 SACA wickets between them this season.

Explain that one.



Where have I heard that excuse before :?: oh thats right that was given to one of our blokes who made the u/19 last year and not this year. Looks like this was recycled a few times then ;) :roll:
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Re: Grade Cricket 2008/09

Postby The Angry Bull » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:19 pm

And Evans has barely trained off anything longer then 4 steps all year!!!!
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