ASCA

[OKC!]

I've sent a PM to story.

I'm keen to see the footage.

He got no games?

Can either of you send it me please?

I haven't been sent it, if you get it send it to me

[Booney]

Looked like a Raygun move.

[Rik E Boy]

Send off are not allowed.

Swing and miss is.

What the **** Boon? What's going on?? Who swings at the ump ffs?

regards,

REB

WYC thugs




(I know a few so only taking the piss)

Shattering news tbh. I was proud of my club back when I played. If you did that shit back in the day you'd be shown the door.

regards,

REB

[Moe]

Send off are not allowed.

Swing and miss is.

What the **** Boon? What's going on?? Who swings at the ump ffs?

regards,

REB

WYC thugs




(I know a few so only taking the piss)

Shattering news tbh. I was proud of my club back when I played. If you did that shit back in the day you'd be shown the door.

regards,

REB

Some terrific blokes at WYC, but unfortunately they've bought in a bunch of players who were known to be trouble and Fitzroy were quite happy to boot them all, even if it cost them.

[The Moose]

Their A grade were great when we played them and they've always been ok tbh. It's a shame their B grade are tarnishing the WYC name. Completely unacceptable behaviour by them and I hope the club comes down hard on them since ASCA didn't have any balls and were completely wrong in their punishments in my unbiased opinion.
I've never seen a more incompetent executive than the one ASCA currently have.

[woodublieve12]

Wyc, the biggest look at me club in the comp

[OKC!]

Someone send me the footage please!!!

[storyoftheyear]

Footage sent. If anyone else wants to see the footage that ASCA deems is worthy of a one game suspension, PM me.

To re-iterate, a player threw a punch at an umpire, and the Exec thinks that’s a single solitary game. If it was footy, what would the suspension be for a punch being thrown at an umpire?

[The Bedge]

Footage sent. If anyone else wants to see the footage that ASCA deems is worthy of a one game suspension, PM me.

To re-iterate, a player threw a punch at an umpire, and the Exec thinks that’s a single solitary game. If it was footy, what would the suspension be for a punch being thrown at an umpire?

If it was AdFL he’d never play again - even if he didn’t connect with attempt.

[storyoftheyear]

Footage sent. If anyone else wants to see the footage that ASCA deems is worthy of a one game suspension, PM me.

To re-iterate, a player threw a punch at an umpire, and the Exec thinks that’s a single solitary game. If it was footy, what would the suspension be for a punch being thrown at an umpire?

If it was AdFL he’d never play again - even if he didn’t connect with attempt.

Agreed. Yet in ASCA, it’s one single solitary game. Doesn’t come close to passing the pub test. The one game ban has been appealed (asking for a stronger penalty) and this appeal was unsuccessful. Does the Exec not have a duty of care to the players in the association to deter acts of violence like this?

[The Bedge]

Footage sent. If anyone else wants to see the footage that ASCA deems is worthy of a one game suspension, PM me.

To re-iterate, a player threw a punch at an umpire, and the Exec thinks that’s a single solitary game. If it was footy, what would the suspension be for a punch being thrown at an umpire?

If it was AdFL he’d never play again - even if he didn’t connect with attempt.

Agreed. Yet in ASCA, it’s one single solitary game. Doesn’t come close to passing the pub test. The one game ban has been appealed (asking for a stronger penalty) and this appeal was unsuccessful. Does the Exec not have a duty of care to the players in the association to deter acts of violence like this?

Having seen the vision this morning, I have reservations over whether it was a punch to be honest. Looked like he either threw a hat at him or slapped him with the hat?

I do think the action itself was provocative (is that the right word?) and definitely had the potential for it all to blow up real bad.

Don't have any background on the incident though, but reckon 11 fielders surrounding an oppo umpire the way they did isn't exactly going to make any situation comfortable.. no idea what the conversation was, but did giggle at the umpire bouncing around like a kangaroo after it happened. Kudo's to the outgoing batsman who raced back and removed the umpire as well to avoid anything worse occuring.

[storyoftheyear]

Footage sent. If anyone else wants to see the footage that ASCA deems is worthy of a one game suspension, PM me.

To re-iterate, a player threw a punch at an umpire, and the Exec thinks that’s a single solitary game. If it was footy, what would the suspension be for a punch being thrown at an umpire?

If it was AdFL he’d never play again - even if he didn’t connect with attempt.

Agreed. Yet in ASCA, it’s one single solitary game. Doesn’t come close to passing the pub test. The one game ban has been appealed (asking for a stronger penalty) and this appeal was unsuccessful. Does the Exec not have a duty of care to the players in the association to deter acts of violence like this?

Having seen the vision this morning, I have reservations over whether it was a punch to be honest. Looked like he either threw a hat at him or slapped him with the hat?

I do think the action itself was provocative (is that the right word?) and definitely had the potential for it all to blow up real bad.

Don't have any background on the incident though, but reckon 11 fielders surrounding an oppo umpire the way they did isn't exactly going to make any situation comfortable.. no idea what the conversation was, but did giggle at the umpire bouncing around like a kangaroo after it happened. Kudo's to the outgoing batsman who raced back and removed the umpire as well to avoid anything worse occuring.

Did he king hit him? No. Did he take a swing with a closed fist at an umpire? Yes. The careless nature of the ASCA exec to give that just one game opens up a pretty terrible precedent.

Yeah the player who took the umpire away got banned for 2 games. The tribunal was the definition of a kangaroo court.

[woodublieve12]

Did he king hit him? No. Did he take a swing with a closed fist at an umpire? Yes. The careless nature of the ASCA exec to give that just one game opens up a pretty terrible precedent.

Yeah the player who took the umpire away got banned for 2 games. The tribunal was the definition of a kangaroo court.

Wait the guy who defused the incident got 2 games???

[wenchbarwer]

anyone still got the footage?

[Booney]

From my view point on some shaky footage :

The fielding team had approached the umpire far too aggressively, that's the first issue.

The umpire does appear to instigate the physical as he pushes a player away from him, the footage makes it difficult to see exactly what occurs between the two at that moment.

The fielder then swings, clipping his teammates floppy and follows up with another over the top right.

Clenched fist? Hard to say. Swung at an umpire? Yes, he did.

It's disappointing on several fronts. One, the club I'm a life member of is involved, whether I'm still involved or not that's embarrassing for anyone who cares about WYCCC. Two, there's no place for this behavior in our competition or the game. Three, one game is manifestly inadequate in my view.

I went out to watch WYC on the last Saturday before Xmas and as a past player, along with a fellow life member, voiced our concerns with some of the current executive and felt the club should add a club imposed suspension in line with what the association had implemented making it a 2 week ban.

I'm waiting to hear what has happened there.

[wenchbarwer]

From my view point on some shaky footage :

The fielding team had approached the umpire far too aggressively, that's the first issue.

The umpire does appear to instigate the physical as he pushes a player away from him, the footage makes it difficult to see exactly what occurs between the two at that moment.

The fielder then swings, clipping his teammates floppy and follows up with another over the top right.

Clenched fist? Hard to say. Swung at an umpire? Yes, he did.

It's disappointing on several fronts. One, the club I'm a life member of is involved, whether I'm still involved or not that's embarrassing for anyone who cares about WYCCC. Two, there's no place for this behavior in our competition or the game. Three, one game is manifestly inadequate in my view.

I went out to watch WYC on the last Saturday before Xmas and as a past player, along with a fellow life member, voiced our concerns with some of the current executive and felt the club should add a club imposed suspension in line with what the association had implemented making it a 2 week ban.

I'm waiting to hear what has happened there.

Agree with all of this, very good summary.

The onus is on the club the show correct culture, merely accepting the one game ban is pretty piss poor.

[storyoftheyear]

From my view point on some shaky footage :

The fielding team had approached the umpire far too aggressively, that's the first issue.

The umpire does appear to instigate the physical as he pushes a player away from him, the footage makes it difficult to see exactly what occurs between the two at that moment.

The fielder then swings, clipping his teammates floppy and follows up with another over the top right.

Clenched fist? Hard to say. Swung at an umpire? Yes, he did.

It's disappointing on several fronts. One, the club I'm a life member of is involved, whether I'm still involved or not that's embarrassing for anyone who cares about WYCCC. Two, there's no place for this behavior in our competition or the game. Three, one game is manifestly inadequate in my view.

I went out to watch WYC on the last Saturday before Xmas and as a past player, along with a fellow life member, voiced our concerns with some of the current executive and felt the club should add a club imposed suspension in line with what the association had implemented making it a 2 week ban.

I'm waiting to hear what has happened there.

If anyone from our club took a swing at an umpire, and the pathetic Exec gave 1 token game for it (a joke), we would be implementing our own internal ban. You can’t be taking swings at umpires, it’s a disgrace.

Yes, the captain who diffused it got a 2 match ban for “speaking in a disparaging and disrespectful manner” (quoting directly from the tribunal findings) to the WYC scorer. This came about because of frustrations about refusing to enter a 5 run penalty in the scorebook. The club and player have accepted this ban but cannot understand how it is worthy of a more severe punishment than taking a swing at an umpire.

[Moe]

Last round before Christmas, and first round after Christmas, Southern Warriors III games in section 7 have both been abandoned mid game. Any ideas why?

[storyoftheyear]

Last round before Christmas, and first round after Christmas, Southern Warriors III games in section 7 have both been abandoned mid game. Any ideas why?

No idea what happened but there’s a tribunal Tuesday. Perhaps giving a measly one game suspension for throwing a punch at an umpire sets the precedent for what’s accepted in ASCA?

[Moe]

Bugger all happening in here....

Looks like no result from the WYC/Southern Warriors tribunal. Southern Warriors have 2 games abandoned mid-game in a row.

I see St. John's forfeited their section 2 game last weekend, which is bloody poor IMO.

This leads me to question why the association sees it ok for teams to drop player's down when they have a forfeit against them, but not allow player's to drop down if they have a bye.
Morphy Park B grade has a bye this week, but cannot drop player's down (without a permit), yet after St. John's forfeit, WYC dropped Matt King and Tom Fieberger to their C grade!!

Bizarrely enough, according to association rules, MP B grade players could go up and play in our A grade, and our A grade players could play C grade!
Obviously we aren't going to do this, so 8 or so cricketer's will be twiddling their thumbs for 2 weeks whilst we bust our butts to fill our other 5 teams, which we have always done and never forfeited.

Our association is getting more absurd each week.