SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby grave digger » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:18 pm

My on the ground source tells me even after the visit to the para enfield game and all the crap that went on Mr amey still wanted the game to go on just plain rocket science time for a change!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Mr Miraculous » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:26 pm

grave digger wrote:My on the ground source tells me even after the visit to the para enfield game and all the crap that went on Mr amey still wanted the game to go on just plain rocket science time for a change!

Well in the direct words of Glenys Phillips, I can tell you there was no thoughts of the game going on. As soon as all was clear Ian Amey made the decision that the game was over and Enfield were handed a win by default.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Goat Herder » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:28 pm

The situation out at Paralowie this season is a classic example of how factions within a Club can put it's longevity into serious jeopardy. If another team or Club decides to join another Club (for whatever reason) the expectation that the new team/s continue to operate as a Club within a Club is just ridiculous and unrealistic. Even to suggest it is nothing but completely selfish and disrespectful to their new Club mates. :roll: Then to rattle off the role-call of indiscretions they've managed to incur in just ONE season proves that unless their attitude & behaviour changes drastically, there is no room for clowns like this in our Association.

Unfortunately it does lead to everyone associated with Paralowie being tarred with the same brush, which is quite unfair, as we all know the problems the 2 Eliz East sides have caused this season to the Roo's. Not that the 'old-school' Paralowie boys are angels, but what they need to do is get rid of these parasites for starters. Then they need to regroup and see what they can salvage from the wreck of 2009/10, and pitch in and give Dutchy some serious bloody help! It dosn't take much to put the hand up and do something for the cricket club, no matter how big or small it is, spread the workload around instead of leaving it to 1 or 2 lads - they'll soon get jack of that quicksmart! Blokes just turning up and taking no responsibility for how the Club is run is bull$#it! As is ringing the captain a few hours before play to pull out. Take some pride in your Club you blokes before it's too late - if it's not already..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Mr Miraculous » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:45 pm

Goat Herder wrote:The situation out at Paralowie this season is a classic example of how factions within a Club can put it's longevity into serious jeopardy. If another team or Club decides to join another Club (for whatever reason) the expectation that the new team/s continue to operate as a Club within a Club is just ridiculous and unrealistic. Even to suggest it is nothing but completely selfish and disrespectful to their new Club mates. :roll: Then to rattle off the role-call of indiscretions they've managed to incur in just ONE season proves that unless their attitude & behaviour changes drastically, there is no room for clowns like this in our Association.

Unfortunately it does lead to everyone associated with Paralowie being tarred with the same brush, which is quite unfair, as we all know the problems the 2 Eliz East sides have caused this season to the Roo's. Not that the 'old-school' Paralowie boys are angels, but what they need to do is get rid of these parasites for starters. Then they need to regroup and see what they can salvage from the wreck of 2009/10, and pitch in and give Dutchy some serious bloody help! It dosn't take much to put the hand up and do something for the cricket club, no matter how big or small it is, spread the workload around instead of leaving it to 1 or 2 lads - they'll soon get jack of that quicksmart! Blokes just turning up and taking no responsibility for how the Club is run is bull$#it! As is ringing the captain a few hours before play to pull out. Take some pride in your Club you blokes before it's too late - if it's not already..

what he^ said... and I love chicken
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:44 pm

rockstar wrote:anyone know any info on the rumor of a new club next season which may also have the services of a former SA player?? :shock:


dont know what your talking about :-" :-"
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:46 pm

typewriter wrote:carey, i think i speak for everyone on here when i say that we understand it's not your fault - as in you personally and you as the original paralowie guys. i hope that next season is a good one for you.


He is cricket director isnt he? regardless of where they come from etc they are just as much HIS responsibility!

To be honest something probably should have been done earlier in the season before this circus really got into full swing and yes carey is just as much to blame IMO as cricket director.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Mr Miraculous » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:52 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
typewriter wrote:carey, i think i speak for everyone on here when i say that we understand it's not your fault - as in you personally and you as the original paralowie guys. i hope that next season is a good one for you.


He is cricket director isnt he? regardless of where they come from etc they are just as much HIS responsibility!

To be honest something probably should have been done earlier in the season before this circus really got into full swing and yes carey is just as much to blame IMO as cricket director.

what he said ^
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby One Ball Bandit » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:14 am

No1_Source wrote:Neutral umpires are a MUST in finals!!! I had the privelege of being at the Enfield C and Fitzroy B game yesterday and it was one of the best games i have seen.. it had everything!!! As predicted it was close 14 runs in it and it took a great catch in the outfield in those conditions to remove auto for 68 if this was put down the result may have easily gone the other way :S


N1S if you thought that was one of the best games you have seen then you obviously haven't seen many good games or played in any ;) ..oohh and Snr PIDGE step towards the ball not away from it when batting ;) :lol:
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby spintwin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:33 am

george wrote:Good to see NEK get up in the Semi. I think they can go all the way this year. My Tips are NEK and Adel Lutheran to play in a good GF.


George i hope you have fun watching the play off for third. If you have a tip for the Gf let me know and i will chuck the house on the other side.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Goat Herder » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:46 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
typewriter wrote:carey, i think i speak for everyone on here when i say that we understand it's not your fault - as in you personally and you as the original paralowie guys. i hope that next season is a good one for you.


He is cricket director isnt he? regardless of where they come from etc they are just as much HIS responsibility!

To be honest something probably should have been done earlier in the season before this circus really got into full swing and yes carey is just as much to blame IMO as cricket director.


No doubting their Administration is a shambles - almost non-existent - but it's pretty unfair to cane the only bloke who is willing to get off his arse and do something! :roll: And even riper for someone who shafted Paralowie earlier this year to be one of the people quite happy to be leading the criticism. :roll: Not quite mutiny, but not far off.. :p ;)
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:06 am

Goat Herder wrote:No doubting their Administration is a shambles - almost non-existent - but it's pretty unfair to cane the only bloke who is willing to get off his arse and do something! :roll: And even riper for someone who shafted Paralowie earlier this year to be one of the people quite happy to be leading the criticism. :roll: Not quite mutiny, but not far off.. :p ;)


Mate im not caning dutchy at all, im just sick of everyone going oh poor dutchy this poor dutchy that, poor paralowie eliz east have ruined their club etc. At the end of the day the fact that the Paralowie club has allowed this mob to basically run rife with what ever they want is ridiculous and even worse is the fact they didnt even know half the stuff going on!!

I mean they dont even train on the same night as the rest of the club!

All im saying is that being cricket director i would have thought he would have his finger more on the pulse, and im not blaming dutchy as an individual, the whole club is to blame, and thats includes him IMO.

As for me shafting them earlier in the season well proved to be the right move for me didnt it :roll:
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Magpies96 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:11 pm

29 and Sunny this Saturday, sounds like great weather for a Grand Final.

But if for what ever the weather came into play, and no play was on the 1st day, would that mean the 2nd day turns into a one day game, or the reserve day gets used?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby skywalker » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:15 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:No doubting their Administration is a shambles - almost non-existent - but it's pretty unfair to cane the only bloke who is willing to get off his arse and do something! :roll: And even riper for someone who shafted Paralowie earlier this year to be one of the people quite happy to be leading the criticism. :roll: Not quite mutiny, but not far off.. :p ;)


Mate im not caning dutchy at all, im just sick of everyone going oh poor dutchy this poor dutchy that, poor paralowie eliz east have ruined their club etc. At the end of the day the fact that the Paralowie club has allowed this mob to basically run rife with what ever they want is ridiculous and even worse is the fact they didnt even know half the stuff going on!!

I mean they dont even train on the same night as the rest of the club!

All im saying is that being cricket director i would have thought he would have his finger more on the pulse, and im not blaming dutchy as an individual, the whole club is to blame, and thats includes him IMO.

As for me shafting them earlier in the season well proved to be the right move for me didnt it :roll:


Sounds messy.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby silent hour » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:32 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:No doubting their Administration is a shambles - almost non-existent - but it's pretty unfair to cane the only bloke who is willing to get off his arse and do something! :roll: And even riper for someone who shafted Paralowie earlier this year to be one of the people quite happy to be leading the criticism. :roll: Not quite mutiny, but not far off.. :p ;)


Mate im not caning dutchy at all, im just sick of everyone going oh poor dutchy this poor dutchy that, poor paralowie eliz east have ruined their club etc. At the end of the day the fact that the Paralowie club has allowed this mob to basically run rife with what ever they want is ridiculous and even worse is the fact they didnt even know half the stuff going on!!
I mean they dont even train on the same night as the rest of the club!

All im saying is that being cricket director i would have thought he would have his finger more on the pulse, and im not blaming dutchy as an individual, the whole club is to blame, and thats includes him IMO.

As for me shafting them earlier in the season well proved to be the right move for me didnt it :roll:


I think PG has a very good point.

If a club allows any outsider teams to play under their name it is their responsibility to ensure the teams conform to the rules of the association.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby No1_Source » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:39 pm

Thanks Bandit at least i was supporting my club i guess haha it was a good game because of the rain entertainment plus!!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Rubbish Binny » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:09 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:No doubting their Administration is a shambles - almost non-existent - but it's pretty unfair to cane the only bloke who is willing to get off his arse and do something! :roll: And even riper for someone who shafted Paralowie earlier this year to be one of the people quite happy to be leading the criticism. :roll: Not quite mutiny, but not far off.. :p ;)


Mate im not caning dutchy at all, im just sick of everyone going oh poor dutchy this poor dutchy that, poor paralowie eliz east have ruined their club etc. At the end of the day the fact that the Paralowie club has allowed this mob to basically run rife with what ever they want is ridiculous and even worse is the fact they didnt even know half the stuff going on!!

I mean they dont even train on the same night as the rest of the club!

All im saying is that being cricket director i would have thought he would have his finger more on the pulse, and im not blaming dutchy as an individual, the whole club is to blame, and thats includes him IMO.

As for me shafting them earlier in the season well proved to be the right move for me didnt it :roll:


I wouldn’t feel sorry for dutchy , a good friend of mine told me that he is now the highest paid sandwich artist in the country. Hence he will not be playing at Paralowie it will be very interesting to see where he ends up.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Goat Herder » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:11 pm

Well, if your 'sources' are right Mr Binny, it'll be the death knell for Paralowie I feel, which will be a shame. :? It's hardly surprising that Dutchy has finally had a gutsfull of the bull$#it, if that's the case.

Just wondering how you'd go Phantom if you got a phone call at 10:30-11am on the morning of the match from one of your players saying that 3 of your players haven't been home since Friday night yet, still down The Cas' and won't be playing. Then you get 2 more calls from your players on the morning of the same match saying they basically can't be stuffed playing. I wonder where you'd pull those 5 players from when you've got a bunch of blokes who want to play ust 40-over stuff and the other half of the Club think they are an entity unto themselves (within an entity...? :? ) and refuse to help out. I wonder how long you'd put up with this sort of crap, given your past loyalties and committment to working through difficult situations? ;) And I wonder how you'd cope with armchair experts sniping away at you and pointing the finger when you're busting ya balls to do as much as you humanly can to field a side? An interesting scenario indeed.. I know I'd be mighty pi$$ed, on many fronts.

I'm not saying their processes were sound. I'm not saying their Administration was seamless. And I'm definitely not saying that things couldn't have been done a whole lot better with this merger-of sorts. But at the end of the day, one bloke can only do so much. Hindsight makes us all experts doesn't it? ;)

I know of another Club that had factions within their Club that was dividing the players & their teams, and they decided that would do something about it. They got rid of the tools that were creating the divisions, and sure they might've had to take a hit in the on-field stakes a bit, but at the end of the day they are ONE Club, and ONE Club only and their best Xl within the Club represents their A Grade - as it should always be.

I still hold out hope that they can salvage something from the wreck, but on the same token, certainly won't blame Dutchy at all for wanting out if that's what he wants - as long as he stays within C&CCA!

So who's this former SA player you reckon you've got lined up for 'Team Phantom'? It's not a washed up old bloke who shares the same surname as the first bloke to walk on the moon by any chance?? :p :lol:
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:27 pm

Actually i deal with very similar issues every week with rugby and yes its very stressfull and tiring and i do often question myself as to why i continue to do it but i guess my passion for the game in general and the motivation to see my club succeed and grow keeps me going.

I know its not cricket but im sure the issues are pretty similar.

I dont doubt the work and the effort he has put into the club at all and i think perhaps you arent understanding what i mean.

I dont see why dutchy should stay there anyway, he has worked hard trying to recruit players etc, put his hand up to be director and clearly been screwed over by the club (if thats what you can call it).

As for "team phantom" .. dont know what your talking about old mate ;)
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:28 pm

Rubbish Binny wrote:I wouldn’t feel sorry for dutchy , a good friend of mine told me that he is now the highest paid sandwich artist in the country. Hence he will not be playing at Paralowie it will be very interesting to see where he ends up.


Do you think it would be healthy for the comp for PV to pick up a couple more players like dutchy?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:36 pm

and you know what i dont really care what you say, no point trying to convince me otherwise, as far as im concerned any person who chooses to put themselves in that position - regardless of the work ethic they apply or the circumstances involved - must carry some portion of the responsibility!

Any sport, any club, any level of competition you know that is exactly how it works!
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