Great Southern Cricket Association 2010-11

[jonas brothers]

when chris butler gets hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the innings i dont think there is a problem with the turf. Myponga new they were going to lose regardless so they were trying to come up with any excuse to slavage a point out of the game..if enc bay were meant to be batting im sure myponga would not have hesitated to bowl..maybe the lesson is if you win the toss on the turf then bat, dont bowl.

why don't enc bay have covers if its a turf wicket..... !!!!!

by all means if you can find some people who will volunteer their time to wake up in the middle of the night when it begins to rain and drive down to the oval and place the covers on then that would be fantastic, but its not that simple chucka

having played on and looked after turf wickets. putting down covers is not a 5 minute job. used to take us about 2 hours from start to finish on a friday night then you need to take them off at about 6 o'clock on saturday morning as the pitch will sweat under the heshan and needs time to dry before you cut and roll it. it takes about 7 or 8 blokes and more if its even so much as slightly windy. very easy to say "why dont they put down the covers" but its much more complex than that. find me 7 or 8 volunteers that would be willing to be up at quarter to 6 on a saturday morning. yeah i dont think so. and as a previous poster said if chris butler is being hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the game, it cant be that bad. just some sour grapes by the sounds of things

[Tony]

Must be a gun...tickets please.... The Eclipse

[words of wisdom]

when chris butler gets hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the innings i dont think there is a problem with the turf. Myponga new they were going to lose regardless so they were trying to come up with any excuse to slavage a point out of the game..if enc bay were meant to be batting im sure myponga would not have hesitated to bowl..maybe the lesson is if you win the toss on the turf then bat, dont bowl.

Your saying because of 1 shot over covers the wicket is fine to play on? Butler is a solid bowler but no DK. Im guessing it was Skater who played that shot, well after opening with him for a number of years i'm guessing he shut his eyes & swung hard

Just wondering would of those brave Bay boys gone out to bat if it was there turn?
Also i would hardly think Pongy had sour grapes J.B. Far from it.
Bays are much better but everyone knows that once a wet Bay pitch (or any) starts to dry out a little, it can be rather dangerous.

[The Neck Breather]

when chris butler gets hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the innings i dont think there is a problem with the turf. Myponga new they were going to lose regardless so they were trying to come up with any excuse to slavage a point out of the game..if enc bay were meant to be batting im sure myponga would not have hesitated to bowl..maybe the lesson is if you win the toss on the turf then bat, dont bowl.

Your saying because of 1 shot over covers the wicket is fine to play on? Butler is a solid bowler but no DK. Im guessing it was Skater who played that shot, well after opening with him for a number of years i'm guessing he shut his eyes & swung hard

Just wondering would of those brave Bay boys gone out to bat if it was there turn?
Also i would hardly think Pongy had sour grapes J.B. Far from it.
Bays are much better but everyone knows that once a wet Bay pitch (or any) starts to dry out a little, it can be rather dangerous.

Myponga went to Ebay with no intensions of winning, right from the start they were complaining about the wicket, suggesting it would be dangerous when running between wickets (even though the only wet patch was 2 metres right of the pitch & if you ran out there, you clearly dont know what you doing). The whole day the batsman were complaining about the crease being slipperly, yet none of them had spikes & thats not Ebay's problem that they didnt choose to wear spikes. And i spoke to the Ebay lads after the match & they said that the wicket was fine & that they would have been happy to bat on it. End of discussion.

[the red baron]

maybe enc bay should put a cement pitch on the nets side of the oval so if it is a bit wet you can play hardwicket.!! probably would only apply on the first day of a two day match or a one dayer as you cant swap surfaces half way through a match!! This problem arises every year and that is why the league will never play finals on the turf!

[a.chucka]

when chris butler gets hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the innings i dont think there is a problem with the turf. Myponga new they were going to lose regardless so they were trying to come up with any excuse to slavage a point out of the game..if enc bay were meant to be batting im sure myponga would not have hesitated to bowl..maybe the lesson is if you win the toss on the turf then bat, dont bowl.

why don't enc bay have covers if its a turf wicket..... !!!!!

by all means if you can find some people who will volunteer their time to wake up in the middle of the night when it begins to rain and drive down to the oval and place the covers on then that would be fantastic, but its not that simple chucka

having played on and looked after turf wickets. putting down covers is not a 5 minute job. used to take us about 2 hours from start to finish on a friday night then you need to take them off at about 6 o'clock on saturday morning as the pitch will sweat under the heshan and needs time to dry before you cut and roll it. it takes about 7 or 8 blokes and more if its even so much as slightly windy. very easy to say "why dont they put down the covers" but its much more complex than that. find me 7 or 8 volunteers that would be willing to be up at quarter to 6 on a saturday morning. yeah i dont think so. and as a previous poster said if chris butler is being hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the game, it cant be that bad. just some sour grapes by the sounds of things

played on plenty of turf wickets in Adelaide Turf, you want to have one then you deal with it professionally.. hire a groundsman or sort it out, i'm sure the rest of the teams don't give a crap how you do it... JUST DO IT
7-8 volunteers.... 11 in a team isnt it???
its pretty simple turf wicket = covers...!!

[interested observer]

Having played on and looked after turf wickets. putting down covers is not a 5 minute job. used to take us about 2 hours from start to finish on a friday night then you need to take them off at about 6 o'clock on saturday morning as the pitch will sweat under the heshan and needs time to dry before you cut and roll it. it takes about 7 or 8 blokes and more if its even so much as slightly windy. very easy to say "why dont they put down the covers" but its much more complex than that. find me 7 or 8 volunteers that would be willing to be up at quarter to 6 on a saturday morning. yeah i dont think so. and as a previous poster said if chris butler is being hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the game, it cant be that bad. just some sour grapes by the sounds of things[/quote]

played on plenty of turf wickets in Adelaide Turf, you want to have one then you deal with it professionally.. hire a groundsman or sort it out, i'm sure the rest of the teams don't give a crap how you do it... JUST DO IT
7-8 volunteers.... 11 in a team isnt it???
its pretty simple turf wicket = covers...!! [/quote]

Very few Adelaide Turf clubs have covers.....
And those that do pick and choose when and when not to use to suit....

[words of wisdom]

when chris butler gets hit over cover for 4 in the first over of the innings i dont think there is a problem with the turf. Myponga new they were going to lose regardless so they were trying to come up with any excuse to slavage a point out of the game..if enc bay were meant to be batting im sure myponga would not have hesitated to bowl..maybe the lesson is if you win the toss on the turf then bat, dont bowl.

Your saying because of 1 shot over covers the wicket is fine to play on? Butler is a solid bowler but no DK. Im guessing it was Skater who played that shot, well after opening with him for a number of years i'm guessing he shut his eyes & swung hard

Just wondering would of those brave Bay boys gone out to bat if it was there turn?
Also i would hardly think Pongy had sour grapes J.B. Far from it.
Bays are much better but everyone knows that once a wet Bay pitch (or any) starts to dry out a little, it can be rather dangerous.

Myponga went to Ebay with no intensions of winning, right from the start they were complaining about the wicket, suggesting it would be dangerous when running between wickets (even though the only wet patch was 2 metres right of the pitch & if you ran out there, you clearly dont know what you doing). The whole day the batsman were complaining about the crease being slipperly, yet none of them had spikes & thats not Ebay's problem that they didnt choose to wear spikes. And i spoke to the Ebay lads after the match & they said that the wicket was fine & that they would have been happy to bat on it. End of discussion.

1st - Why would you go out & buy spiked shoes for 1 game a year?
2nd - Is it true they were brooming water off the pitch before the start of play?
3rd - Cam lintern was only bowling off of 5 or so steps at times during the game. Correct?
4th - Tomo & the Pongy boys, undermanned, out skilled or whatever ALWAYS play to win!

[sherminator]

HaHa! I find it pretty funny that last season there was a load of talk in here bagging Myponga for not having an A grade. This year they have an A grade and are struggling and they are getting bagged again for not being good enough and not trying to win! Am I the only one who can see the hypocrisy here? What do people expect them to do? Come out batting cavalier style to try to post big scores? That is only going to lead to them being skittled and gifting sides outrights which will do the competition no favours. As Happy Wanderer mentioned a while back, playing at the highest level is going to make them better in the long-run, so good on 'em I say for having an A grade and perservering.

While I'm here, I also take my hat off to Encounter Bay for having a turf pitch. People can bag it as much as they like but I think it is great and I look forward to playing on it every year. Having played a few seasons of English cricket I can categorically state that the EBay pitch is much better than a lot of the pitches I played on over there. At one of the clubs I played for I used to help the groundsman look after the square and prepare the wickets and have seen first hand the amount of time and effort required. I say well done lads, keep up the good work. I've probably played on it a dozen or so times over 15-16 seasons and whilst I've seen it green & juicy & tough to bat on at times, I've NEVER seen it in a state where it is uneven or dangerous, so its a thumbs up from me!

[Hot Pies]

....plus who are you to give victor ****!? hes a more accomplished cricketer than you and hes only 19 ?? better cricketer than youll ever be eclipse

I'm very qualified to give my opinion. you must have me confused with some-one else. several a grade tonnes give me the right.
fancy comparing tait to yourself, nothing wrong with a slinging action, i was refering to the stuttering run up and the inability to look at where your bowling when releasing the bowl. i know its hard to ease up on the arrogant pills but give every-one a break.
the knew Rockyb.

well i can quiet capably see where im bowling and too bowl stump to stump from time to time.!? comparing myself to tait? nooo.. i was saying that theres plenty of bowlers out there without a great action who still do alright!...i know where im releasing the ball and too know where its going (occasionally!) i didnt say you werent qualified or had to be qualified for your opinion yet you feel quiet ready to give the younger lads crap for "not making runs" "not being able to run up"and such and such... at our age we're still doing alright! oh and to clarify i have my doses of arrogant pills spread out over the week doc says its not a good idea to over use but thanks for the concern!

[Richard Chee Quee]

probably giving away who i am and where im from but who cares. the state of the pitch on saturday at the bay was fine. there was nothing wrong with it from a batting or bowling point of view. the pitch had a pool of water on it at the clubrooms end as it always does whenever it rains as thats the lowest part of the square. water was broomed off the pitch at 7am when we first arrived. both captains agreed to start at 2 o'clock, which was fine. by the time 2 o'clock came around the pitch was starting to crack around the popping crease at the clubrooms end. this is how much it had dried out. the only "sticking" point was a little bit of mud about 2 meters off the wicket which was never going to cause a problem. play was under way at 2 pm as agreed. skater had 10 runs off the first over without trouble. yes there was a bit in it for us bowlers but it had alot more to do with the myponga batsman (not having a go at them at all). playing on a sticky wicket you must play your shots. hit through the line and dont think too much.

as for us not wanting to bat on a wet wicket. i can remember a game played there against myponga about 7 years ago where as a 15 year old i happily opened the batting on a pitch with water still sitting on top of it to Wal and Magpie Hutchinson with balls flying past my head from a good length, without a single whinge and no sympathy from them (and neither should've there been). we lost 18 wickets for not much more than 100 that day. i personally dont care what shape or form the turf is in i would rather play another days cricket losing 18 for a 100 with balls going everywhere then play on concrete. turf cricket is the ultimate challenge, wet, dry or indifferent. if you dont like it then go and play in the c grade where you be able to slog across the line all day without one moving off the straight.

Now as for the covers and doing it properly and theres 11 in a team etc etc. about half our team comes from adelaide on a saturday morning so thats something in itself. its easy as an outsider looking in to say "it cant be that hard, do it properly". i will down there at 6:30 this saturday morning to help make a wicket. theres about 25 man hours that goes into that wicket every week before any of you other clubs even drive in the gate. ask yourself, how long does it take to put down matting? it costs the club more money to maintain a turf pitch but we wouldnt have it any other way. to buy ONE cover to fit the 3 pitch square and replace what we already have would cost the club about 10K. which we dont have and doubt many of your clubs would have. its easy to sit back and complain about the way it is but we do our best week in week out without any outside assistance. rain is always going to play a part with our cricket at the bay but we except that and sometimes it goes our way and sometimes it doesnt. we would've been more than happy to bat on saturday and backed ourselves to chase down any total as we always do.

sorry about the rant lads but it pi$$e$ me off when other clubs whinge about the way the turf is when so much hard work is put into it.

[Richard Chee Quee]

oh forgot to mention, cam lintern always comes off 5 steps in the second spell and beyond. you would too if you were carting that much weight around!

[The Neck Breather]

oh forgot to mention, cam lintern always comes off 5 steps in the second spell and beyond. you would too if you were carting that much weight around!

im suprised cammy lintern can even bowl on a saturday, after the amount of bedroom antics he & his new mrs are involved in on most friday nights, a normal man wouldnt be able to pull up for a game on the saturday... i guess hes just some sort of freak... in the bedroom & on the cricket field.

[Bulldogsculthero25]

TURF i luv playing down there!!!
ive played down there on wet pitch, dry & cracked pitch and just gone out there to play cricket. Enc Bay hav to deal with wet days on it about as often as the rest of us. As mentioned Turf tests your technique easy to slog across the line on mats, stop having a cry ppl.
Personally i think all clubs should have a turf cricket pitch, thats wot u play cricket on!, yes??

[busta]

TURF i luv playing down there!!!
ive played down there on wet pitch, dry & cracked pitch and just gone out there to play cricket. Enc Bay hav to deal with wet days on it about as often as the rest of us. As mentioned Turf tests your technique easy to slog across the line on mats, stop having a cry ppl.
Personally i think all clubs should have a turf cricket pitch, thats wot u play cricket on!, yes??

Couldn't agree more! and would love to play on a turf wicket every week, bit unrealistic for every club to get a turf wicket but it would be great to see a few more around!

[Hot Pies]

bit of a ruff day for us elliot lads! that BIG umpire whos name is queit the opposite gave a howler of a descesion today ball was bowled short of a length (as i do)... it hit the middle of the pitch bounced the same no different than hitting the matting dizzy nicked it and was caught at second slip....then turn around mr BIG has given it a dead ball descision....movin on he later let four balls not off my bowling that hit the middle of the pitch and stayed low ....and didnt call any of them? oh and one was smashed for four by binnsy ?!?! when is it going to stop with these ridiculos calls just because they have a personal vendetter against them? as mr BIG does! dizzy later tonned up!?!? cost us a hundred runs in hein site not taking anything away from dizz whas a great knock and i congratulate him but he also walked as he knew he was out? absalute disgrace to all the top line umpires in this association but hes a repeat offender who talks rubbish! well ive had my whinge!

[sherminator]

I must admit Bloods, I too thought there were a few that hit the concrete that weren't called. Was a bit hard to tell from back in the pavilion! Congrats to Dizzy though. Has struggled a bit the last few weeks to score runs. He worked really hard yesterday and perservered early before cashing in later in the day... and yes he was halfway back to the sheds before being called back. With a few more bowling options in the side this game, hopefully we can defend 260!!!!!

[Tony]

Clearly arguments on both sides about the bays pitch!!! But its great that we have it in the comp, played a game there about 15 years ago on a wet deck and for whatever reason we bowled first with a 2 piece ball. Burgess put quit a few around a young M Dew,s head from a good length, it was great viewing from the gully

well written Richard Chee Quee, particulary about Cam labouring in his second spell haha

Lads it all even,s out in the end down the 'track' sometime lets move on, is great to play there after X-mas....ive even spun one or two of my pies on the pitch when dry.

...Bloods ...dude chillax a bit mate!!!!!!

[Tony]

Here,s a topic for you all out there!!!!

Should we have a Sat/Sun game early in the season and then have the test match weekend off??!!!

Clearly i think so, but what is everyone,s thoughts?!!?!

[sherminator]

That's not the worst idea floating around Tony. I reckon there are a few leagues around who don't schedule games on the test match weekend.

I know for a fact there were a few Compass lads in a world of pain yesterday due to their annual 1st day of the test expedition. Sandy Num sweated out around a litre and a half of Pimms & lemonade just driving to the ground yesterday!