Great Southern Cricket Association 2010-11

[MrTeach]

Jeez this forum is quiet. We are 2 games away from finals and nothing is being said.

Here is my 2 bobs: with a little closing comment on each team like u usually see in the form guide.

Willunga still travelling strong with the batting their definate strength, but possibily their achiles could be their bowling. Brucey holds them together but can the younger guys support him. Favourite at this stage

McLaren well no-one seems to rate us, and to be honest thats the way we like it. We are travelling nicely and some key players are gathering momentum come finals. Gathering Steam

Enc Bay still a very dangerous side with some very good cricketers and we play a HUGE role come finals. slight concerns on their preparation into games, got a few blokes who love a few frothies on a Friday (Disco the main culprate) LOL Must be considered

Aldinga again another consistent side with a few wise heads holding them together. Question mark is, is it left to too few players. Bryce is a genuine GUN and has solid support in Schoey, Woody and Rosa but how much support do they get from the young brigade will determine how deep they go in finals. watch closely.

Compass are on the edge of the 4 and i think if they manage to squeeze in then they could be extremely dangerous. Awesome batting depth and have potential to post big scores but the question mark is the bowling. Shooter is one of the best line and length bowlers in the comp but unfortunately some of those younger quicks at compass dont seem to follow Shooters lead. They bowl way too short. Watch out if they make it

Pongy, Goolwa and Elliott will be trying to cause some serious upsets in the final two rounds annd all sides need to take them seriously. Especially Elliott we have them this week and are definately taking it very seriously because they have a very classy bowling attack.

Ok guys enough from me lets get this forum pumping again. Spread your thoughts.

[VC]

How's young Scott Peek travelling from Willinga this yr guys??

[jonas brothers]

mt compass or the bays to win for mine. bays bowling line up against the compass batting line up would be a good grand final i think. willunga are a side that are 3 out all out. get peek, barry, elliot and its game over. mclaren to be around it too.

[Super Fred]

Hi Great Southern forumites,
just putting this out there for general concensus but would be the general feeling if Noarlunga were accepted to join the association.

[the red baron]

Hi Great Southern forumites,
just putting this out there for general concensus but would be the general feeling if Noarlunga were accepted to join the association.

Well over the last 25 years the gsca has accepted Willunga,Mclaren and Aldinga to make a stronger league so i would think Noarlunga would be accepted with open arms! How many teams does Noarlunga currently field in the sca?

[smithy]

Hi Great Southern forumites,
just putting this out there for general concensus but would be the general feeling if Noarlunga were accepted to join the association.

Well over the last 25 years the gsca has accepted Willunga,Mclaren and Aldinga to make a stronger league so i would think Noarlunga would be accepted with open arms! How many teams does Noarlunga currently field in the sca?

They have 4 dirty, cheating, no gooder senior sides.

just kidding super fred

[Offcutter]

Looking at it from purely A grade, would this result in a 9 team A Grade comp, and then byes? Would the league force down a team to make it an 8 team comp then?

These will be the questions raised.. don't think anyone could argue 8 team A grade comp is perfect. Recent years have seen problems with filling the 8 teams, now the league seem to have it just right.

Take Myponga for example.. they seem to be working really hard at keeping there A grade side in.. if it went to the clubs, I would say that they would want to avoid byes at all costs.. the question may then become does the league, in order to accomodate Noarlunga, and avoid byes, push a club down?

Are Encounter Bay keen on moving to an all-turf comp that has been rumoured previously?

[Richard Chee Quee]

Looking at it from purely A grade, would this result in a 9 team A Grade comp, and then byes? Would the league force down a team to make it an 8 team comp then?

These will be the questions raised.. don't think anyone could argue 8 team A grade comp is perfect. Recent years have seen problems with filling the 8 teams, now the league seem to have it just right.

Take Myponga for example.. they seem to be working really hard at keeping there A grade side in.. if it went to the clubs, I would say that they would want to avoid byes at all costs.. the question may then become does the league, in order to accomodate Noarlunga, and avoid byes, push a club down?

Are Encounter Bay keen on moving to an all-turf comp that has been rumoured previously?

noarlunga can stay in the southern comp. from what im told they wouldnt do alot to help the friendly beers after the game atmosphere we currently enjoy in great southern. i love playing in this comp. its primarily full of good teams made up by good people. dont try to fix it if its not broken.

if we did move to an all turf comp, where would you blokes play 'real' cricket?

[Offcutter]

haha, was waiting for that one!

Would hardly be a "Great Southern" A grade comp if the Bays went, Shoes in..

Noarlunga, McLaren, Aldinga, Willunga, Compass and Pongy. Goolwa and Pt Elliot the only reps from the "coast"...

[smithy]

Looking at it from purely A grade, would this result in a 9 team A Grade comp, and then byes? Would the league force down a team to make it an 8 team comp then?

These will be the questions raised.. don't think anyone could argue 8 team A grade comp is perfect. Recent years have seen problems with filling the 8 teams, now the league seem to have it just right.

Take Myponga for example.. they seem to be working really hard at keeping there A grade side in.. if it went to the clubs, I would say that they would want to avoid byes at all costs.. the question may then become does the league, in order to accomodate Noarlunga, and avoid byes, push a club down?

Are Encounter Bay keen on moving to an all-turf comp that has been rumoured previously?

noarlunga can stay in the southern comp. from what im told they wouldnt do alot to help the friendly beers after the game atmosphere we currently enjoy in great southern. i love playing in this comp. its primarily full of good teams made up by good people. dont try to fix it if its not broken.

if we did move to an all turf comp, where would you blokes play 'real' cricket?

There are a lot of good blokes at the shoe who enjoy a few bevvies after the game with the opposition.

[allrounder]

Not sure where you got your info from Richie.

Yeah we play our cricket hard but fair on the field, but once th day is over its beer o'clock time for sure, Nothing like sharing a few drinks with all the boys and having a laugh / joke / catch up. Its what country cricket is all about.

[sherminator]

Would be interested to know the opinions of blokes like Binnsy, Bryce. JI, Chopper & Nummy on the matter as they are all blokes who have played a reasonable amount of cricket in the SCA (Nummy for the Shoes), albeit quite a few years back. I played all my juniors in Southern but only a handful of senior games and can honestly say that the atmosphere in Great Southern is far superior to what I experienced in Southern in regards to 'fair play' and socialising afterwards. RCQ sums it up very well although that was quite a while ago and things may have changed.

Despite that, I think the Shoes would generally be accepted well by most clubs and it would benefit the Association. As Offcutter has suggested, the A's would probably retain an 8 side competition meaning someone would have to dropout. This could remove the 'pressure' on clubs like Myponga & Goolwa who are struggling a little bit at the minute. Perhaps a promotion/relegation system could be used, although something similar was introduced a few years back that fell away very quickly.

[smithy]

Surely accepting a club with 4 good sides to strengthen your competition is more important than how many of their lads go back for a beer anyway.

[sherminator]

Agreed Smithy. As I said in the second paragraph I think it would be a good move for GSCA to accept the Shoes IF they were to want to move. Also it would only be 1 or 2 times a year you would have to play them anyway. It's a win-win situation in my eyes.

[Offcutter]

Perhaps Chee Quee wasn't specifically referring to actual beers after the game.. maybe more at the attitude of players / etiquette during the game which may affect things...

Not suggesting Shoes would affect that in the slightest. Know a lot of present / past players form there who are great blokes. But I'd reckon if you asked players from Aldinga, McLaren, Willunga who have played in both leagues, the way the games are conducted and attitude of teams certainly differs.

And some of those people have a fair bit of pull in the league.

[Super Fred]

Perhaps Chee Quee wasn't specifically referring to actual beers after the game.. maybe more at the attitude of players / etiquette during the game which may affect things...

Not suggesting Shoes would affect that in the slightest. Know a lot of present / past players form there who are great blokes. But I'd reckon if you asked players from Aldinga, McLaren, Willunga who have played in both leagues, the way the games are conducted and attitude of teams certainly differs.

And some of those people have a fair bit of pull in the league.

Correct you are, and having to put up with playing against these sort of people every few weeks is one of the reasons i am happy Noarlunga are looking at moving. I do not enjoy playing in the SCA much anymore for a number of reasons but mainly being the attitude/etiquette of others.

[Richard Chee Quee]

Perhaps Chee Quee wasn't specifically referring to actual beers after the game.. maybe more at the attitude of players / etiquette during the game which may affect things...

Not suggesting Shoes would affect that in the slightest. Know a lot of present / past players form there who are great blokes. But I'd reckon if you asked players from Aldinga, McLaren, Willunga who have played in both leagues, the way the games are conducted and attitude of teams certainly differs.

And some of those people have a fair bit of pull in the league.

Correct you are, and having to put up with playing against these sort of people every few weeks is one of the reasons i am happy Noarlunga are looking at moving. I do not enjoy playing in the SCA much anymore for a number of reasons but mainly being the attitude/etiquette of others.

not refering to just the beers after the game etc. i find our comp to be very social off the field and also on it. nothing like playing against blokes who dont take themselves to seriously and are able to have a joke on the field as well as off it. from what i have had to do with noarlunga and from what others have told me, the way they carry themselves as a team on the field would very much be 'a fish out of water' for our comp. not saying these blokes cant play cricket or arent going to be an added challenge to the rest of the comp. its just testiments from blokes like super fred and others that are now involved in our association make me think it may not be the best fit for our comp. but thats just my opinion

[shoe boy]

Correct you are, and having to put up with playing against these sort of people every few weeks is one of the reasons i am happy Noarlunga are looking at moving. I do not enjoy playing in the SCA much anymore for a number of reasons but mainly being the attitude/etiquette of others.[/quote]

not refering to just the beers after the game etc. i find our comp to be very social off the field and also on it. nothing like playing against blokes who dont take themselves to seriously and are able to have a joke on the field as well as off it. from what i have had to do with noarlunga and from what others have told me, the way they carry themselves as a team on the field would very much be 'a fish out of water' for our comp. not saying these blokes cant play cricket or arent going to be an added challenge to the rest of the comp. its just testiments from blokes like super fred and others that are now involved in our association make me think it may not be the best fit for our comp. but thats just my opinion[/quote]

example?
You wouldnt meet a better bunch of lads

[Offcutter]

Probably right there Shoeboy, but it's not about the lads themselves. It's all about perception.. bringing in a team from Southern, where people's perceptions will play a big role on whether they like it, or don't like it.

Would you agree the SCA doesn't have the best reputation?

[smithy]

Probably right there Shoeboy, but it's not about the lads themselves. It's all about perception.. bringing in a team from Southern, where people's perceptions will play a big role on whether they like it, or don't like it.

Would you agree the SCA doesn't have the best reputation?

Aldinga and McLaren moved on when the comp was probably not at it's best morale wise.
The cricket was competitive and there was many VERY good cricketers playing, but as far as leadership of the SCA back then goes, let's just say it was very lobsided towards an ex SCA presidents home club and was noticed by other clubs.
So Aldinga, McLaren and Happy Valley players who were in the SCA probably have more bad memories than good.
I will say that when moving from SCA to A&SCA I felt that the A&SCA were more willing to clamp down on poor behaviour too, something I never thought of as an issue when playing SCA.

If Aldinga and McLaren were in the comp under Zac Jolly and Gary Bilney then they would notice a massive difference in how things are run.