Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:43 am

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duck-mann wrote:Any news on the structure of the comp for the 10/11 season?


It will go to a vote at the AGM if anyone has any possible motions to pass, I'd dare say there wont be any changes. One thing for sure is that it will remain 8 teams per division, there would have to be a seasons notice for all clubs should this change.


McQueen, I read with interest a previous line of conversation regarding your ideas for the competition, relating it to a soccer type structure: A1, A2's etc and with 2 LOA competitions. Is this a genuine proposal you will be raising at the AGM, or was it merely thinking out loud?


It is a genuine proposal, there's some political issues going on atm within our walls so I'm not sure that I'll be attending the AGM.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Iwasthere84 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
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duck-mann wrote:Any news on the structure of the comp for the 10/11 season?


It will go to a vote at the AGM if anyone has any possible motions to pass, I'd dare say there wont be any changes. One thing for sure is that it will remain 8 teams per division, there would have to be a seasons notice for all clubs should this change.


McQueen, I read with interest a previous line of conversation regarding your ideas for the competition, relating it to a soccer type structure: A1, A2's etc and with 2 LOA competitions. Is this a genuine proposal you will be raising at the AGM, or was it merely thinking out loud?


It is a genuine proposal, there's some political issues going on atm within our walls so I'm not sure that I'll be attending the AGM.


There has too be changes this year or the comp will start to die. IMHO you cannot have 3 B grade teams in Div 2. I dont care about the talk if teams are good enough, blah blah, the comp must be structured on the clubs performance not each team. Bit disappointed we havn't had a meeting with exec before the AGM
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:17 pm

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It is a genuine proposal, there's some political issues going on atm within our walls so I'm not sure that I'll be attending the AGM.


There has too be changes this year or the comp will start to die. IMHO you cannot have 3 B grade teams in Div 2. I dont care about the talk if teams are good enough, blah blah, the comp must be structured on the clubs performance not each team. Bit disappointed we havn't had a meeting with exec before the AGM


I'm hearing you 84, I just have seen too many times that delegates don't like change, whether it's to get out of the meeting earlier or not, I don't know, it's a bit sad.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby MadMax » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:25 pm

Iwasthere84 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
MadMax wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It will go to a vote at the AGM if anyone has any possible motions to pass, I'd dare say there wont be any changes. One thing for sure is that it will remain 8 teams per division, there would have to be a seasons notice for all clubs should this change.


McQueen, I read with interest a previous line of conversation regarding your ideas for the competition, relating it to a soccer type structure: A1, A2's etc and with 2 LOA competitions. Is this a genuine proposal you will be raising at the AGM, or was it merely thinking out loud?


It is a genuine proposal, there's some political issues going on atm within our walls so I'm not sure that I'll be attending the AGM.


There has too be changes this year or the comp will start to die. IMHO you cannot have 3 B grade teams in Div 2. I dont care about the talk if teams are good enough, blah blah, the comp must be structured on the clubs performance not each team. Bit disappointed we havn't had a meeting with exec before the AGM


Unless a proposal has been raised though, the exec can't act on it to initiate preAGM discussions.
Last time a similar change was discussed, Peter Morgan initiated the discussions at the final senior delegates meetings for the season and invited clubs to participate, of which only 6 clubs wanted to.

Even if a proposal was raised prior to AGM, with all the workings done, good ideas still get shot down at AGM by delegates who just want to go home.
With that... a slight deflection to the next topic!
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:35 pm

Well I'd hate the competition to move to 6 teams per division. Its already an incestuous league with the same teams playing each other twice a year. Coming from Adelaide Turf, there are 12 teams per division and you play everybody once. It certainly keeps the season fresh thats for sure.

On another note....LM's proposed A1, A1 res format sounds bloody good.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby MadMax » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:53 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Well I'd hate the competition to move to 6 teams per division. Its already an incestuous league with the same teams playing each other twice a year. Coming from Adelaide Turf, there are 12 teams per division and you play everybody once. It certainly keeps the season fresh thats for sure.

On another note....LM's proposed A1, A1 res format sounds bloody good.

Agreed
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:30 pm

Papas wrote:Ill believe it when i see them next season. Wouldnt have the coronas to mention names would ya! Just like most people just all talk, but if some players do goto One Tree Hill from our A grade good on them shame to go backwards in cricket though.


erm papas, after reading some of the stuff said between yourself and duck-man it seems theres a bit of a sour taste. but if duck man is headin to OTH next season, and a few players are deciding to follow him... i am struggling to see how these players r going 'backwards in cricket'? after lookin at the tables i think OTH had three teams making finals, one of them won a flag. so this is lookin like they will have a side in div1, div2 and div 7. ive also heard there cud be a 4th OTH side being put into the comp. last time i checked craigmore missed finals in div 2, and div 3.... explain how they are going backwards? seems they are stepping forward to try and have a crack at division 1 and 2, and are joining a club with serious premiership ambitions
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:02 pm

MadMax wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:Well I'd hate the competition to move to 6 teams per division. Its already an incestuous league with the same teams playing each other twice a year. Coming from Adelaide Turf, there are 12 teams per division and you play everybody once. It certainly keeps the season fresh thats for sure.

On another note....LM's proposed A1, A1 res format sounds bloody good.

Agreed



but if we go to the A1 A1 res format it could create a very one sided A1 Res division. lets say in the A1 Res comp u have side like SW, BL, OTH, RC, Vir, AV, SF n whoever else went up. i know this comin season most of those clubs have a strong B grade side, with 3 of them being in div 2 n some in div 3. but for sides like Rose and Crown, arent their B grade is div 4? you would be puttin a div 4 side in a comp against div 2 teams??? is that how it would work? some one correct me if im wrong
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:13 pm

maybe all these people leaving craigmore is saying more than people just looking for a change?? i guess it depends on how much respect there is for the captain??
after all if a captain has only got change of pace to hang his hat on then people must question why is he captain??
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:22 pm

catchit wrote:maybe all these people leaving craigmore is saying more than people just looking for a change?? i guess it depends on how much respect there is for the captain??
after all if a captain has only got change of pace to hang his hat on then people must question why is he captain??



i have heard they might have picked up a couple players too though. but yeah seems like a bit of an exodus for some reason. perhaps papas could shed some light on the reason why? wasnt papas captain last season?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Papas » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:56 pm

What would you like to hear? I will say first Stama your an idiot and not worth replying too get a new comeback they are getting old. Our club is moving on with the loss of a couple of players but nothing that cant be replaced. Duckmann can give you his own reasons for leaving the club not my call there my point was he is leaving from captaining a grade 3 team to leave for a club he may not even play B grade at but whateva it really doesnt bother me. My comments earlier had other issues nothing that matters anymore and looking forward to this next season.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:05 pm

Papas wrote:What would you like to hear? I will say first Stama your an idiot and not worth replying too get a new comeback they are getting old. Our club is moving on with the loss of a couple of players but nothing that cant be replaced. Duckmann can give you his own reasons for leaving the club not my call there my point was he is leaving from captaining a grade 3 team to leave for a club he may not even play B grade at but whateva it really doesnt bother me. My comments earlier had other issues nothing that matters anymore and looking forward to this next season.



oh i was just wonderin if there was any reasons for the loss of players? like if theres any divisions down the club, or if there was any big disagreements last season that might have caused players to leave. if rumours r true sounds like there could be a few leaving. and as catchit said maybe there is reason behind it? not just the want for a new start.

what news do u have of craigmores recruiting activity??? i heard u might have picked up players but yet to hear who
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Wizard of Oz » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:06 pm

Any other news around the league then ?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Papas » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:13 pm

Im sure Duckmann will fill you in mate im sure he will say its for a change of club. We have only lost 2 players and they are from our b grade. Im not quite sure what your rumours are though. Recruiting is going ok we have been talking to a few players like most clubs have been. How bout yourself.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Papas » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:18 pm

oh i was just wonderin if there was any reasons for the loss of players? like if theres any divisions down the club, or if there was any big disagreements last season that might have caused players to leave. if rumours r true sounds like there could be a few leaving. and as catchit said maybe there is reason behind it? not just the want for a new start.

what news do u have of craigmores recruiting activity??? i heard u might have picked up players but yet to hear who[/quote]

There is no divisions or big disagreements im pretty confident most players will be back next season.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:29 pm

Papas wrote:Im sure Duckmann will fill you in mate im sure he will say its for a change of club. We have only lost 2 players and they are from our b grade. Im not quite sure what your rumours are though. Recruiting is going ok we have been talking to a few players like most clubs have been. How bout yourself.



yeah i dont really know. kinda stay out of that side of things. i have heard a couple of rumours of players. not heard anythin too big though. i think i will only really find out at that first training session. and of course as a lot people seem to be doin on here, we gotta play our cards close to the chest too. always good to have suprises at the start of the season right

Is R. Howe and G. Elliott still at craigmore next season? they were quite pivotal for you guys last season it seemed. wud be a big loss to lose on, or both of them. they wud be getting on in age too wud they not?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby catchit » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:37 pm

Papas wrote:What would you like to hear? I will say first Stama your an idiot and not worth replying too get a new comeback they are getting old. Our club is moving on with the loss of a couple of players but nothing that cant be replaced. Duckmann can give you his own reasons for leaving the club not my call there my point was he is leaving from captaining a grade 3 team to leave for a club he may not even play B grade at but whateva it really doesnt bother me. My comments earlier had other issues nothing that matters anymore and looking forward to this next season.



who is the idiot?? you just did reply :roll:
ok something new... it will be a real shame nto to play against you again, as i see it i have a couple of years left in me and with your ability leading the A grade you will be in the lower grades for a while yet.. hope ya prove me wrong ;) i really do...
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Papas » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:50 pm

Yeah nahh those two are going nowhere for now mate they pretty happy where they are we got a good side coming for this season so hopefully we can do well. Im not captaining this year mate stepping aside for a way better candidate so never know your wish might come true ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby broca011 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:52 pm

Papas wrote:oh i was just wonderin if there was any reasons for the loss of players? like if theres any divisions down the club, or if there was any big disagreements last season that might have caused players to leave. if rumours r true sounds like there could be a few leaving. and as catchit said maybe there is reason behind it? not just the want for a new start.

what news do u have of craigmores recruiting activity??? i heard u might have picked up players but yet to hear who


There is no divisions or big disagreements im pretty confident most players will be back next season.[/quote]

I will back Papas up here.. there is no division or big disagreements. Not everyone is going to like everything that happens at a club but that is not necessarily why people leave. Sometimes it just comes down to things like work committments, lifestyle changes etc.

I have heard names mentioned about Craigmore's recruiting and if they are true I would certainly expect them to be in Div 1 after this coming year. Gav and Rob, I would put my house on them staying and with the new boys they will be extremely strong.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby cricket4life » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:02 pm

broca011 wrote:
Papas wrote:oh i was just wonderin if there was any reasons for the loss of players? like if theres any divisions down the club, or if there was any big disagreements last season that might have caused players to leave. if rumours r true sounds like there could be a few leaving. and as catchit said maybe there is reason behind it? not just the want for a new start.

what news do u have of craigmores recruiting activity??? i heard u might have picked up players but yet to hear who


There is no divisions or big disagreements im pretty confident most players will be back next season.


I will back Papas up here.. there is no division or big disagreements. Not everyone is going to like everything that happens at a club but that is not necessarily why people leave. Sometimes it just comes down to things like work committments, lifestyle changes etc.

I have heard names mentioned about Craigmore's recruiting and if they are true I would certainly expect them to be in Div 1 after this coming year. Gav and Rob, I would put my house on them staying and with the new boys they will be extremely strong.[/quote]


wud be interesting to see them get back into div 1. im sure howe and elliott would love to be playin where they belong. good enough players to be at that level. and catchit im sure wud relish the chance to take papas apart. sorry papas... but my money would certainly be on catchit comin out on top in that exchange. Craigmore will certainly have to be stronger than they were 2 or 3 years ago to survive, let alone make an impact on div 1. short of quality batsmen beyond howe and elliott and a few bowlers short.

so catchit is it just urself goin to RC. or are we goin to see a few others follow?
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