Corona Man wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:50 overs makes for a very long day - 11am until 6pm. Would think 45 overs from 12noon or 40 overs from 1pm would be better.
Are two dayers currently 80 overs? 40 over games would give the same amount of playing time.
In the A&EH - both A2 & B grade comps are 40 over per side one day games (80 overs for the day), start at 1.00pm finish can be as late as 6.45pm IIRC. So to get 100 overs in, in a day, they would need to be starting by 12 noon you would think. Problem being junior games are only wrapping up around 11 - 11.15am. Doesn't give any A grader who is involved in juniors much time to get from one ground to another.... I see it as inevitable (and I support the move) that games will be 1 day fixtures across the board. I think A grade should be more than 40 overs, so it does stand out as the "premium" product. The association would not want to feel responsible if say, in the worst case scenario, there was an accident involving a player speeding to get to a ground on time.... This is of course a worst case view, but it needs to be considered IMO.
Straths proposal is for the A Grade to go to ALL 50 over games starting at 12.30pm.
Games would CEASE as soon as a result has been achieved
Thats the Guts of it
Theyve included other proposals such as bowler and fielding limitations, changes to finals format and a few other minor things.
They also included a VERY detailed report into the FORs and AGAINSTs the move.
Tho i think this report is biased towards their argument, they do make some very good points, mostly reiterating Nairnes points from a few years ago.
All one day cricket certainly would benefit the Association by making programming a lot easier as well as Clubs with an A Grade would welcome it in regards to doing away with the selection nightmares that 2 day cricket brings in regards to player unavailability for 2 weeks and sourcing replacement players along with the BYE rule in regards to player qualification that no one it seems has ever understood. Lol
With only 7 A Grade teams currently from the 13 clubs, as i discussed in an earlier post, It's very unlikely a team would come up to A Grade whilst it stays as 2 day cricket but if it goes to 1 day cricket, i think clubs would find it a more attractive proposition to come up and have a go.
In regards to Juniors that might be playing A Grade, u/16 games usually finish anywhere around 11.20 - 11.40
I guess with the longest travelling distance being Lobethal to Lang Creek being about 45 - 50 mins ? The few kids in this situation should be able to be at A Grade on time to start.
A potential 100 overs does make for a potentially VERY long day as most A grade teams require players to be at ground up to 1 hour b4 the game so players in some cases would be leaving home at 11.00am, match if goes the full duration wouldnt finish til at least 6.30pm MINIMUM and up to 7.00pm is very possible. Have a social drink or 2 after the game and drive home and its 8.00 pm b4 you know it. A 9 hour day. I know thats not gonna happen too many times but if it did happen a few times i think it could test a few players enthusiasm.
Theres also the case where a team gets bowled out for 50 (or 14 in Mt Loftys' case) and the team batting 2nd knocks them off quickly and the game is over by 3pm. Not ideal as that scenario generally leaves a lot of players not doing much for the day.
I guess the above examples are the 2 extremes and as long as they are few and far between it may work ok?
The fact is there are problems with the current programme and there will be problems with a new all 1 day game format as well but it's certainly worth a look at.
Straths proposal talks about having things like only 2 fielders outside of 15 metre circles for the 1st 15 overs and only 5 thereafter.
I can only assume they meant 30 YARD circles which is the norm for all T20 and ODI matches etc.
Personally certainly NOT a fan of this proposal at all.
Those playing conditions were bought into International cricket many moons ago to increase action in the early stages of a match to appease the spectators and increase the viewers appeal which in turn made it a lot more marketable product for TV.
I dont think we need to be applying rules of this nature to a local comp which is about the players, not the spectators as it is at International level.
A&EHCA has it's developing T20 comp for players to play a modified game.
IMO it's too big a change to go from 2 day cricket where there were NO restrictions at all in regards to bowler and field limitations to a 1 day format where inevitably bowling restrictions will apply (10 overs / bowler suggested by Strath) as well as the suggestion that fielding limitations should apply as well.
I'm surprised Strath didnt propose the "Leg side wide" rule to be bought in ?
One other Proposal is there to be a "Double Chance" for the top 2 teams in the finals.
For EVER there has been a Top 4 with 2 Semi Finals 1 v 4 & 2 v 3 with the winners playing off in the GF
Their proposal is for 1 v 2 & 3 v 4 with the loser of 1 v 2 playing the winner of 3 v 4 to play the winner of 1v 2 in the GF
Certainly dont see any need for the current Finals format to change. I dont see how the same 2 teams ( 1 & 2 ) playing off in the GF the week after clashing in the SF (This will happen im guessing 70% of the time) enhances the Finals series at all?
If it's NOT broke DONT fix it !
I agree the current Minor round format needs readjusting and rejuvenating to stimulate the declining trend of clubs wanting to play at the top level but lets not go overboard just for the sake of it.
Straths proposal will ensure an interesting AGM in July