SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2009-10

[Ted]

ecky....care to let us know what you know on this?.......i heard this from someone sitting on the tribunal panel who is VERY annoyed with the exec.regarding their decision.....next time he gets a call from A. Loffler to sit on a tribunal he is going to tell him to go and get stuffed! and i quote " why waste my time when they will only overturn our decision"

[Ecky]

ecky....care to let us know what you know on this?.......i heard this from someone sitting on the tribunal panel who is VERY annoyed with the exec.regarding their decision.....next time he gets a call from A. Loffler to sit on a tribunal he is going to tell him to go and get stuffed! and i quote " why waste my time when they will only overturn our decision"

If a tribunal panel member was this upset they should have raised the issue with the exec at the time, rather than raise it via a third party giving an incorrect version of events on an internet forum almost a year later. Tell him to contact Ian Amey and I am sure the situation will be sorted out.

Oh well, at least it gives us something to discuss on here! Things have gone a bit quiet since the Phantom has jumped ship!

[carey]

you mean jumped ship AGAIN

[spintwin]

I know its a bit early but there is a lot of talk going around about alot more teams wanting to play oneday games next year. If rumours are true we could see atleast two grades if not three. Has anyone heard anything around the grounds. I think the exec have hurt the comp by taking away one day games from all the grades. Last year it was 6 and 6 now its 7 and 3.let me know what you think

[Pistol]

I know its a bit early but there is a lot of talk going around about alot more teams wanting to play oneday games next year. If rumours are true we could see atleast two grades if not three. Has anyone heard anything around the grounds. I think the exec have hurt the comp by taking away one day games from all the grades. Last year it was 6 and 6 now its 7 and 3.let me know what you think

totally agree! i thought last seasons format was very good, another alternative may also be 10 x 1 dayers and 5 x 2 dayers, it would mean 3 extra weeks of cricket but everyone plays eachother three times plus there are more 1 dayers, playing the 2 dayers before the finals so you can get 2 day practise before finals. just a thought. At minimum though last years format seemed to work well and was fairer to the comp.

[Phantom Gossiper]

you mean jumped ship AGAIN

FAR Q

[Goat Herder]

I know its a bit early but there is a lot of talk going around about alot more teams wanting to play oneday games next year. If rumours are true we could see atleast two grades if not three. Has anyone heard anything around the grounds. I think the exec have hurt the comp by taking away one day games from all the grades. Last year it was 6 and 6 now its 7 and 3.let me know what you think

totally agree! i thought last seasons format was very good, another alternative may also be 10 x 1 dayers and 5 x 2 dayers, it would mean 3 extra weeks of cricket but everyone plays eachother three times plus there are more 1 dayers, playing the 2 dayers before the finals so you can get 2 day practise before finals. just a thought. At minimum though last years format seemed to work well and was fairer to the comp.

Fully agree with both you lads 100%. The Association is all too willing to appease the whims and wants of every Club who pipes up and whinges & complains, they have lost sight of what is best for cricket in general and the Association overall. Admittedly it's tough to strike the right balance when you've got voices all over the place saying "Do this" and "Do that", but creating a one-day only grade is not the answer. With 3 (Ithink) interchangeable players per game allowed, there is no need for a one-day grade. Our representative teams play one-day cricket, so that format must form a reasonable basis amongst our elite players, which mainly participate in Div 1 & 2.

As for the Phantom, perhaps I'll take him out to the Goannas in my boat marinated in tuna oil - that'll stop him from jumping ship..

[Ted]

i think the future of our association will be all one dayers. There are too many positives in this format. We are a social comp, the average working week has gone from 38 to 50 hours. i know most of our guys have a wife and a couple kids so with this commitment its very hard to commit to cricket for two weeks. This would give the program greater flexability as well. We could have a day off for the test and long weekends ect.
How many teams can bat for 65 overs anyway??

[Ted]

keep off the phone Baldo. Ricky's sure to call you soon.....Australia need you

[Phantom Gossiper]

Also one day games are not suited to all people but two dayers are def. suited to big hitting limited overs players i.e baldo. Also two day games give greater opportunites for more players to participate and get more involved and perform.

A bloke batting from 5 down in a one day game isnt going to get the chance to show his full potential, also in our level of cricket there are plenty of blokes who bat and bowl so they would most likely do the bulk of the work every Sat and that wouldnt be enjoyable for anyone.

Shaun Holland - bat 3, open bowling
Fred Jarret - Open bat & bowl
Paul Wright - bat 3, open bowl
Richard Marshall - bat 3 & bowl

Dont know how many blokes you know who would want to pay say $150 per yr to stand in the field half a day then watch some blokes bat the other half and maybe get to bat 5 or so overs.

.. think about it Ted

[Pistol]

i think the future of our association will be all one dayers. There are too many positives in this format. We are a social comp, the average working week has gone from 38 to 50 hours. i know most of our guys have a wife and a couple kids so with this commitment its very hard to commit to cricket for two weeks. This would give the program greater flexability as well. We could have a day off for the test and long weekends ect.
How many teams can bat for 65 overs anyway??

i think ou will find that a few div 1 teams can bat the overs mate

i still believe that 2 day games have their place and wouldn't like to see them be made obselete however a better mix of 1 dayers and 2 dayers is required

[spintwin]

I think the problem is with the program the way it is some div one teams and teams from other divisions may go to the one day grade to keep there players happy. Should just be 5 and 5 play everyone twice and maybe a twenty 20 carnival over two weekends to fill in the season. This will keep everyone happy. The Assosiation need to have a good hard look at what they are doing to OUR comp.

[Phantom Gossiper]

oops i must have deleted half my arguement lol

[Ted]

have thought alot about it PG, in cricket sides there are always going to be players that get more of a go but what i would like to see is the one day game continue after one side has won. This would allow other players that dont get a chance all the time to get involved. In the current format two day games continue on after one side has won for bonus points but this is not the case in one dayers. Isn't this contradictory? If top plays bottom you better win the toss and bat otherwise you are going to miss out on points, which we all know are very important.

Ok, so div. 1 sides should bat 65. But what about the other Div's? Every week in the paper you see that most teams have struggled to bat 65

[Ted]

Hey...its just MY opinion....i'm only one person ( with many, many personalities )

[auto]

As long as its fair.....Last season our club played the number one team in Div 1 3 times and got smashed 3 times. The team that just beat us for fourth spot played the bottom team 3 times....not having a winge or a sook, just that wateva happens you have to play everyone 2 times or everyone 3 times.
Always thought the way we did it in the old Independent was pretty good, play each team 3 times, a two dayer and 2 one dayers.
I do like the idea of playing each team twice with a 20/20 carnival over a coupla weekends to fill the void. I also think 8 team Divs would allow seven two dayer (14 weeks) and 7 one dayers (7 weeks for a total of 21 weeks). Many many options...good luck Ecky

[Phantom Gossiper]

Hey...its just MY opinion....i'm only one person ( 2. with many, many personalities )

1. well you opinion is wrong hahah
2. could this be hinting towards something else...... ????

[Phantom Gossiper]

IMHO i think the future of community cricket will go down the pathway of two competitions. the Turf comp and a hard wicket comp.

More divisions, more sides in each division, more variation in structures for competition i.e one day grades etc.

Also then you can still maintain your church sides competing and im sure you can still select a representative side for the champs from the churches sides, hell might even work in church clubs favor in attracting players.

[carey]

As long as its fair.....Last season our club played the number one team in Div 1 3 times and got smashed 3 times. The team that just beat us for fourth spot played the bottom team 3 times....not having a winge or a sook, just that wateva happens you have to play everyone 2 times or everyone 3 times.
Always thought the way we did it in the old Independent was pretty good, play each team 3 times, a two dayer and 2 one dayers.
I do like the idea of playing each team twice with a 20/20 carnival over a coupla weekends to fill the void. I also think 8 team Divs would allow seven two dayer (14 weeks) and 7 one dayers (7 weeks for a total of 21 weeks). Many many options...good luck Ecky

100% agree with you auto

[carey]

as im off to thailand sat i'll put my round 4 tips in now

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