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Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:38 am
by Look Good In Leather
billy wrote:New competition - vote to change the constitution to present the SACA Grade Cricket Redevelopment Model

SACA ensure club redevelopment model targets accreditation standard for change rooms/nets/club rooms to ensure they meet them

SACA present the new Grade Cricket Redevelopment Model to each club with the allocated funding within the presentation which is the same for all clubs

All clubs provided with annual funding as part of the South Australian Grade Cricket Redevelopment Model - Resource Profile targeting
elite accreditation standards for all clubs based on the model including covers at all turf centres

All clubs have annual funding included for a Development Coach /appointed by the club and their role is defined by the club linked to National funding
Funding is clearly linked to accreditation requirements in relation to the club development of feeder clubs and players
Families and Players choose where they play cricket

Call for sponsorship tenders in South Australia for the 8 Grade Clubs
Sponsorship is linked with 4 New Indoor Centres for cricket development in South Australia funded by SACA - Northern/Eastern/Western/Southern
Sponsorship of grade clubs linked to Corporate Rewards connected to the Adelaide Oval
SACA Funding includes Capped funding for coaching
All centre of excellence happens in Brisbane - no junior national programs until Under 15 and then Under 18
High Performance becomes National only - funding reallocated back into player/coach development in South Australia

Grade Cricket consists of Under 15 and Under 17 teams including Senior Cricket is which 1st grade 2nd grade 3rd grade

Port Adelaide at Port Reserve
Southern Districts - Glenelg at Glenelg Oval
Adelaide - Sturt at Hawthorn Oval
Prospect - University at Prospect Oval
Northern Districts at Salisbury
Kensington at Parkinson
East Torrens - Tea Tree Gully at Campbelltown
West Torrens- Woodville at Henley
Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

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Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:48 am
by Minimum Chips
Should be a cracker of a game in the One Day Final on Sunday if all the Redbacks players are playing. Some fair ins for both sides.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:16 am
by Eagles2014
Minimum Chips wrote:Should be a cracker of a game in the One Day Final on Sunday if all the Redbacks players are playing. Some fair ins for both sides.


Redbacks don't play till late Feb in Perth, so they should all be playing the two day game starting this weekend as well. Makes for some very handy teams, especially Kensy and Uni as you say!

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:18 pm
by Tony Clifton
Look Good In Leather wrote:[Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

The SANFL manages to develop country footballers without clubs being based there

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:22 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Tony Clifton wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:[Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

The SANFL manages to develop country footballers without clubs being based there

How many A Grade district cricketers get paid to play?

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:30 pm
by heater31
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:[Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

The SANFL manages to develop country footballers without clubs being based there

How many A Grade district cricketers get paid to play?
Probably more PDCA or ATCA players get paid than SACA ones....

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:48 pm
by whufc
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:[Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

The SANFL manages to develop country footballers without clubs being based there

How many A Grade district cricketers get paid to play?
Probably more PDCA or ATCA players get paid than SACA ones....


You could be right about their being more in the PDCA but wouldn't think that too many in the PDCA are. There would be a couple here and there but teams like SW are made up of pretty much all juniors, AV, Virg, NEK, PG all just seem to be local mates.

Potentially Dublin are throwing a bit of coin about.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:59 pm
by Lightning McQueen
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:[Cricket only exists within the inner metro suburbs does it?

The SANFL manages to develop country footballers without clubs being based there

How many A Grade district cricketers get paid to play?
Probably more PDCA or ATCA players get paid than SACA ones....

There'd be quite a few in ATCA, a dozen tops in PDCA (and most of them would be in a coaching role), at a guess the BLCA would be paying a few.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:51 pm
by daysofourlives
I reckon there would be one player in the BLCA getting coin.
There is heaps in the ATCA and some very ordinary players too, getting good coin.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:54 pm
by daysofourlives
Lightning McQueen wrote:Might of gone a bit tight going back to 8 clubs but still, better than the current set up.

I would've thought setting a team up in Strath and one at Gawler or the Barossa way would've been been a better path to follow but I can understand why merging existing clubs will still have history.


Trouble with any expansion to a country area is it would require SACA or the expansion club to buy land and build at least 3 ovals if not 4 depending on the amount of teams. Its one thing that never happens with housing developments, they have to put in a bit of open space, a few trees but never an Oval. For example Gawler still has the same amount of Ovals it had when the population was 10k, it would now be 30 k

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:43 pm
by Arry Gablett
Paid to play PDCA
your are kidding?

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:57 am
by Lightning McQueen
daysofourlives wrote:I reckon there would be one player in the BLCA getting coin.
There is heaps in the ATCA and some very ordinary players too, getting good coin.

I beg to differ, the PDCA gets pilfered by the BLCA, these players wouldn't be heading out there for the love of travel.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:01 am
by Lightning McQueen
Arry Gablett wrote:Paid to play PDCA
your are kidding?

Would've been rife 10+ years ago, you'd think payments would be based on a coaching role or a random member paying the odd bloke a dollar per run or something.

It still happens, nothing wrong with it, you win games and people stay back in the club to drink piss later on a Saturday night, the club ends up making more coin.

When we were up and running well with 4 competitive mens teams and 2 competitive womens teams we'd still have 30+ people in the club near midnight after a successful day, great times!

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:06 am
by Aerie
daysofourlives wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Might of gone a bit tight going back to 8 clubs but still, better than the current set up.

I would've thought setting a team up in Strath and one at Gawler or the Barossa way would've been been a better path to follow but I can understand why merging existing clubs will still have history.


Trouble with any expansion to a country area is it would require SACA or the expansion club to buy land and build at least 3 ovals if not 4 depending on the amount of teams. Its one thing that never happens with housing developments, they have to put in a bit of open space, a few trees but never an Oval. For example Gawler still has the same amount of Ovals it had when the population was 10k, it would now be 30 k


There is a brand new sports complex built at Mt Barker, almost finished. Also one being built with the new High School at Aldinga. Would’ve thought these two facilities, at the very least, could be a hub for a Premier Cricket junior club.

You then capture all the Fleurieu, Hills and Murray Bridge regions, with no more than a 40 minute drive to trainings with high quality facilities. The Barossa towns are similar distance to Salisbury.

Build a larger catchment area and filter it through to a high quality 1st Grade competition. No need to have all Premier Cricket clubs playing 1st Grade. Pick the 8 best and then provide opportunity for the other clubs to promote themselves through performance to 1st Grade and poor performance in 1st Grade sees demotion. Encourage the talented kids to play above their age levels with pathways all the way to 2nd Grade at every club.

If voluntary mergers happen, then so be it. An incentive could be automatic inclusion in 1st Grade, however, long term, performance should always dictate if you deserve to be in the top grade.

The more kids with cricket as a serious option, with high quality training facilities and coaches, the more chance of producing a Test cricketer.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:18 am
by tigerpie
Schools and premier cricket don't mix.
Due to risk management I can't roll when there's kids on the oval.
One of the teachers complained that the kids were breathing diesel smoke for 40 minutes.
The roller was too loud, and I could squash a kid.
All arguments are bollocks but he got his way.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:39 am
by daysofourlives
Lightning McQueen wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:I reckon there would be one player in the BLCA getting coin.
There is heaps in the ATCA and some very ordinary players too, getting good coin.

I beg to differ, the PDCA gets pilfered by the BLCA, these players wouldn't be heading out there for the love of travel.


Id like to know who you think is getting paid
Diener at Sandy is the one i think.
Maybe South threw a bit of coin at the guys they got after Eastern Park folded?
And Willaston would be paying a coach and maybe couple players.
Gawler Central have in the past
It isnt working for any of them, notice they are all Gawler clubs.

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:47 am
by Tony Clifton
How would a grade club at Mt Barker or in the Barossa impact the local competition? Would think it would be like the Crows/SANFL

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:52 am
by Dutchy
I cant imagine a turf pitch at Mt Barker would be a good idea, be plenty of games abandoned

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:55 am
by Tony Clifton
Dutchy wrote:I cant imagine a turf pitch at Mt Barker would be a good idea, be plenty of games abandoned

Need a stadium with a roof

Re: Grade Cricket

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:55 am
by daysofourlives
Tony Clifton wrote:How would a grade club at Mt Barker or in the Barossa impact the local competition? Would think it would be like the Crows/SANFL

Thats why up to 4 ovals would have to be built, no local club is going to give up their traditional ground and play in a paddock somewhere