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Is he out?

Posted:
Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:34 am
by shoe boy
Batsmen facing a quick and continually walking up the wicket.
Ball goes through to the keeper and batsmen is about a metre out of his crease watches the keeper flick the ball to first slip then the batsmen walks down the wicket to chat with non stricker when first slip pings at the stumps.
IS HE OUT!
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:40 am
by chrissymac7
If the keeper through it at the stumps he is out but not once he has passed it to first slip, It than becomes a dead ball.
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:56 am
by Deep Heat
chrissymac is right as soon as he passes the ball to first slip it is deemed to be dead and cannot be out had a similar incident a few years back where we needed 2 runs to win the batsmen hit the ball and ran 2 runs comfortably the ball was in the keepers gloves for around 10 seconds the batsmens box had fallen out into the leg of his pants he then started to try and retrieve it and stepped out of his crease in doing so and the keeper took the bais off and appealed it was given not out as he wasnt attempting a run. Therefore the ball is deemed dead
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:05 am
by catchit
mant years ago in under 12 i was batting i missed the ball next thing i no the stumps went down i was given out, then half way off was called back cause first slip threw the ball.. chrissy is right deadball..
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:06 am
by shoe boy
I thought that was the case.
I was inocently reading the tab when a couple of lads asked this as a lad was given out from square leg with the info I posted.
My feedback was he attemting a run? as I was not watching at the time.

Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:04 am
by DILLIGAF
cmon you should no the rules shoe boy hes not out the ball was dead and if he tried to run it doesnt count
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:31 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
Many years ago Andrew Zesers was bowling at Dean Jones in a Sheffield Shield game. Jonesy was in good form and used to bat a metre out of his crease to the medium pace bowlers. David Hookes was at first slip. Zesers bowled the ball a metre outside off stump and Jones let the ball go. Hookesy move in front of the keeper, took the ball and threw down the stumps. OUT!
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:33 pm
by catchit
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Many years ago Andrew Zesers was bowling at Dean Jones in a Sheffield Shield game. Jonesy was in good form and used to bat a metre out of his crease to the medium pace bowlers. David Hookes was at first slip. Zesers bowled the ball a metre outside off stump and Jones let the ball go. Hookesy move in front of the keeper, took the ball and threw down the stumps. OUT!
very clever.. has that rule been changed??
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:52 pm
by Dogwatcher
How about this one:
Ball picked prodded back down wicket by batsman. Bowler picks ball up, turns to walk away and then in a fit of frustration turns and throws the ball at the batsman. Ball hits batsman's pads and deflects to fine leg. Batsman moves to make a run and then realising it's probably a dead ball (as the bowler had originally turned to walk back to his mark) walks back to the crease. Fielder throws ball in and it hits stumps with batsman out of crease. Is he out or not?
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:57 pm
by catchit
Dogwatcher wrote:How about this one:
Ball picked prodded back down wicket by batsman. Bowler picks ball up, turns to walk away and then in a fit of frustration turns and throws the ball at the batsman. Ball hits batsman's pads and deflects to fine leg. Batsman moves to make a run and then realising it's probably a dead ball (as the bowler had originally turned to walk back to his mark) walks back to the crease. Fielder throws ball in and it hits stumps with batsman out of crease. Is he out or not?
yes cause he is a idiot for not running
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:04 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
catchit wrote:Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Many years ago Andrew Zesers was bowling at Dean Jones in a Sheffield Shield game. Jonesy was in good form and used to bat a metre out of his crease to the medium pace bowlers. David Hookes was at first slip. Zesers bowled the ball a metre outside off stump and Jones let the ball go. Hookesy move in front of the keeper, took the ball and threw down the stumps. OUT!
very clever.. has that rule been changed??
No rule hasn't changed. If keeper takes ball and hands off to slip the ball is dead - not out. If keeper or first slip take the ball and throw down the stumps the ball is still live - run out.
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:06 pm
by catchit
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:catchit wrote:Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Many years ago Andrew Zesers was bowling at Dean Jones in a Sheffield Shield game. Jonesy was in good form and used to bat a metre out of his crease to the medium pace bowlers. David Hookes was at first slip. Zesers bowled the ball a metre outside off stump and Jones let the ball go. Hookesy move in front of the keeper, took the ball and threw down the stumps. OUT!
very clever.. has that rule been changed??
No rule hasn't changed. If keeper takes ball and hands off to slip the ball is dead - not out. If keeper or first slip take the ball and throw down the stumps the ball is still live - run out.
learn something every day..
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:13 pm
by sports follower
catchit wrote:Senor Moto Gadili wrote:catchit wrote:Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Many years ago Andrew Zesers was bowling at Dean Jones in a Sheffield Shield game. Jonesy was in good form and used to bat a metre out of his crease to the medium pace bowlers. David Hookes was at first slip. Zesers bowled the ball a metre outside off stump and Jones let the ball go. Hookesy move in front of the keeper, took the ball and threw down the stumps. OUT!
very clever.. has that rule been changed??
No rule hasn't changed. If keeper takes ball and hands off to slip the ball is dead - not out. If keeper or first slip take the ball and throw down the stumps the ball is still live - run out.
learn something every day..
Exactly the same as above post, bowled a wide and run out....
Catchit you tried a different way at non strikers end, not much difference really.
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:19 pm
by catchit
except that the batsmen hit it back to me SF
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:29 pm
by Ted
Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:31 pm
by interested observer
Ted wrote:Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Only one that should be outed is the umpire..
I would be arguing strongly that the ball is dead..
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:11 pm
by Mr_Willy
Ted wrote:Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Probably would be out, but I'd be wrapping the bat around the umpires head!!

Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:13 pm
by wycbloods
Mr_Willy wrote:Ted wrote:Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Probably would be out, but I'd be wrapping the bat around the umpires head!!


Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:42 pm
by bloods08
Ted wrote:Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Thats a silly scenario. Any sane umpire would switch their phone off before going out to umpire.
Re: Is he out?

Posted:
Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:50 pm
by catchit
bloods08 wrote:Ted wrote:Here's one for ya.
Bowler well into his run up, bowles the delivery and the umpires mobile phone starts ringing.
The batsman is bowled.
Batsman claimes the ball should be called dead because he was put off by the mobile ringing
IS he out?
Thats a silly scenario. Any sane umpire would switch their phone off before going out to umpire.
prob the same sort of umpires that click the ******* counter as you are about to bowl.. gives me the shits