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Re: ASCA

Postby helicopterking » Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:30 pm

whitepointers wrote:
footy1992 wrote:IMO no B grade team should be below Section 7 or 8 especially when the likes of Shiedow Park, Coromandel & Ramblers have to have 3 teams in the top 5 sections.

Does it help that the association secretary is linked to HV ....


I agree with you footy1992, but that is what also makes Sheidow and the Coro teams better, so good on those clubs for wanting to be the best they can be.

Porties finished 2nd bottom of Section 7 last season.. We've picked up a few and asked to go to Section 5.
It would've been easy to try fly under the radar and go for an easy flag, but we also want to put our players into the best they can play.

Those clubs seeking for easy flags in the lower Sections may get a little bit of joy from playing lower than they should be but long term I reckon they'll always be a lower section club.


Why teams might get a ‘cheap flag’ it sets clubs up to crash hard when it isnt down hill skiing anymore.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:17 pm

Hopefully WYC get the C grade up and running successfully, the invitation to come out of retirement was met with a "Thanks, but no thanks".
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Re: ASCA

Postby Bluedemon » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:13 pm

How are Kenilworth looking for this year?
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Re: ASCA

Postby whitepointers » Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:49 pm

Bluedemon wrote:How are Kenilworth looking for this year?


Hopefully shIthouse.
Some long term members at that club are an utter disgrace to the game of cricket and should've been banned for life cause of their cheating.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:47 pm

whitepointers wrote:
Bluedemon wrote:How are Kenilworth looking for this year?


Hopefully shIthouse.
Some long term members at that club are an utter disgrace to the game of cricket and should've been banned for life cause of their cheating.

Yes, they certainly have a very bad reputation.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Bluedemon » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:54 am

Moe wrote:
whitepointers wrote:
Bluedemon wrote:How are Kenilworth looking for this year?


Hopefully shIthouse.
Some long term members at that club are an utter disgrace to the game of cricket and should've been banned for life cause of their cheating.

Yes, they certainly have a very bad reputation.


They use to be a very good club with some good people there, that was about 10 years ago
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:18 pm

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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:18 pm

:-k
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:20 pm

Section 10 has turned into a circus again.

Starr's with 10 teams, ICC pull out, keswick pull out after 2 forfeits, Cove haven't even put a side on the park yet after 3 rounds, Morphett Vale B grade forfeited at least once.

In round 2, only 1 game out of 5 got going.

Now there's 8 teams (hopefully) and the association has let all teams keep points from all forfeiture and byes, which means the team ranked second has only played 1 game, team ranked 5th has only played 1 game, which it lost but is still equal with 3rd and 4th.
Cove are 1 game off 3rd and haven't played a game or been able to field a side.

This association has absolutely no credibility or integrity.
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Re: ASCA

Postby whitepointers » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:11 pm

Blame the clubs Moe, not ASCA.
They can only be guided by what clubs tell them.

If you were unhappy with Happy valley in Sect 10 last season, I look forward to you meeting Warradale .
B Grade teams in Section 10 is a joke... soft option at the highest level
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Re: ASCA

Postby footy1992 » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:54 pm

whitepointers wrote:Blame the clubs Moe, not ASCA.
They can only be guided by what clubs tell them.

If you were unhappy with Happy valley in Sect 10 last season, I look forward to you meeting Warradale .
B Grade teams in Section 10 is a joke... soft option at the highest level


Agreed, clubs just nominate teams without any regard for others in the association. it doesn't affect them when they forfeit but theres still 11 blokes each game that miss out on cricket. The forfeit fee should be increased (i realise it was voted down this year) to make it hurt more, and even consider sending the fee to the club that suffers (via ASCA) to offset the costs of oval hire etc.

No B grade team should be that low ever.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:57 pm

whitepointers wrote:Blame the clubs Moe, not ASCA.
They can only be guided by what clubs tell them.

If you were unhappy with Happy valley in Sect 10 last season, I look forward to you meeting Warradale .
B Grade teams in Section 10 is a joke... soft option at the highest level


Yep, already faced Warradale and got torched.
I keep hearing that they're old or unfit or just want to play with their mates.
So do that in any section.
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:06 am

Where are Morphie Parks T20 games on PlayHQ? Do they have a team entered in Div 1 Pool A? You’d assume they do. Currently there are 5 teams with byes in rounds 4 and 5, along with Morphies missing entirely. This whole PlayHQ transition has been a disaster.
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Re: ASCA

Postby someguy1 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:48 am

storyoftheyear wrote:Where are Morphie Parks T20 games on PlayHQ? Do they have a team entered in Div 1 Pool A? You’d assume they do. Currently there are 5 teams with byes in rounds 4 and 5, along with Morphies missing entirely. This whole PlayHQ transition has been a disaster.


Didnt enter an A grade team. Post from the committee.

Due to the much high number of T20's games we're involved in now (ASCA & SAMCA) plus not being able to use our own home ground due to lighting/glare issues (at start of arvo games), the Committee has decided to only put 1 team into the ASCA comp this season, in Div 3.
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Re: ASCA

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:33 am

storyoftheyear wrote:Where are Morphie Parks T20 games on PlayHQ? Do they have a team entered in Div 1 Pool A? You’d assume they do. Currently there are 5 teams with byes in rounds 4 and 5, along with Morphies missing entirely. This whole PlayHQ transition has been a disaster.

I don't think it's a Play HQ problem, the whole restructuring of our T20 Competition is stupid IMO. From a NH point of view the pool we had based on Iocation last season worked fine (we had MP, Glenelg, Keswick and Plympton being the clubs closest to us) and now we have Cove, Coro Ramblers and Sheidow in our pool. Even though it was washed out playing at Weymouth on a Sunday wasn't too popular and we were struggling to fill team.
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Re: ASCA

Postby footy1992 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:03 pm

someguy1 wrote:
storyoftheyear wrote:Where are Morphie Parks T20 games on PlayHQ? Do they have a team entered in Div 1 Pool A? You’d assume they do. Currently there are 5 teams with byes in rounds 4 and 5, along with Morphies missing entirely. This whole PlayHQ transition has been a disaster.


Didnt enter an A grade team. Post from the committee.

Due to the much high number of T20's games we're involved in now (ASCA & SAMCA) plus not being able to use our own home ground due to lighting/glare issues (at start of arvo games), the Committee has decided to only put 1 team into the ASCA comp this season, in Div 3.


My understanding is that there won't be any SAMCA moving forward?

Not sure I like a top tier club being able to self allocate themselves into Div 3.. Surely you land in 1 or 2 being a single team....
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Re: ASCA

Postby someguy1 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:24 am

footy1992 wrote:
someguy1 wrote:
storyoftheyear wrote:Where are Morphie Parks T20 games on PlayHQ? Do they have a team entered in Div 1 Pool A? You’d assume they do. Currently there are 5 teams with byes in rounds 4 and 5, along with Morphies missing entirely. This whole PlayHQ transition has been a disaster.


Didnt enter an A grade team. Post from the committee.

Due to the much high number of T20's games we're involved in now (ASCA & SAMCA) plus not being able to use our own home ground due to lighting/glare issues (at start of arvo games), the Committee has decided to only put 1 team into the ASCA comp this season, in Div 3.


My understanding is that there won't be any SAMCA moving forward?

Not sure I like a top tier club being able to self allocate themselves into Div 3.. Surely you land in 1 or 2 being a single team....


No idea haven't played for a few years, just answering the question of why they weren't in PlayHQ.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Arch44 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:48 am

Fitzroy Past Players Day Saturday January 7. $30 drink package and afternoon tea provided during the Agrade one day game v Warradale.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:38 pm

Another team pulls out of section 10.
6 teams left now that Cove have finally stopped dicking all the other sides around.
This division is an absolute mess.
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Re: ASCA

Postby V0ice0fthev0iceless » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:53 am

There have recently been some rumblings of amendments to the playing season based on clubs player availability and aging demographics. Additional to this, there were suggestions of weeks off throughout the season for things like the Adelaide test match. I think since the pandemic, more people are inclined to want to miss weekends of cricket for events like this, and I think it's possible to add that weekend off to our schedule.

This competition remains unique from a hard wicket perspective, with most other associations opting to become primarily one day cricket comps. I feel that we should lean in to what we do, and embrace two day cricket, rather than shifting to one day cricket. Therefore, I am suggesting that each team plays eachother once throughout the season in a two day game, with no one day games in between (unless there is a heat/rain effected first day where this would then become the only option). This adds higher stakes to each result and will mean the ladder at the end of a season will be tighter than they've ever been. With this in mind, I feel the association should allow cross section slash players, meaning a player could play week 1 in section 3, and week 2 in section 1, or vice versa.

Further changes to the schedule would include a weekend long T20 carnival in December to get clubs playing 2-3 of their T20 round robin games in a single weekend. This is at the same time as the T20 Big Bash League and around school holiday time. This will also mean less need to source grounds mid week and will allow some clubs who may not have the facilities available on week night to then join the competition.

I would also recommend the association approach the Fleurieu & Districts Cricket board and request inclusion in the Meyer Shield association competition. Either this, or approaching ATCA and re-establishing a yearly Association match. This can be factored in to future fixturing.

Regular season finals structure should take a similar approach to how the BBL function, with the below structure:

Beginning with the Eliminator, the sides that finish fourth and fifth will clash in a 'win or go home' match, with the loser eliminated and the winner proceeding to the Knockout.

The Knockout will see the third-placed side clash with the winner of the Eliminator, with the loser of the Knockout eliminated from the running and the winner progressing.

Prior to the Knockout, the Qualifier between the top two sides will take place, with the winner moving straight into the Final.

The loser of the Qualifier will then face the winner of the Knockout in the second last final of the series, the Challenger.

The Challenger will then decide which club will join the winner of the Qualifier in the Final, with the victor moving on to the deciding match while the loser will be eliminated.

The Final will be hosted by the side that won the Qualifier, with all other finals to be hosted by the highest-seeded side.


Below is how the regular season would look:

Round 1
14 & 21 October

Round 2
28 October & 4 November

Round 3
11 & 18 November

Round 4
25 November & 2 December

OFF
9 December (Test Match Weekend)

ASCA T20 SMASH
16 & 17 December

Round 5
6 January & 13 January

OFF
20 January (Meyer Shield/Association Weekend)

Round 6
27 January & 3 February

Round 7
10 February & 17 February

Round 8
24 February & 2 March

Finals Week 1
9 March & 10 March

Finals Week 2
16 March & 17 March

Finals Week 3
23 March & 24 March

Keen to hear some thoughts.
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