Adelaide Hills Cricket (HCA, TVCA & A&EH)

[jackpot jim]

Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. .

Maccy copped a 93 run hiding in the Semi Final. Creeks were finally disqualified about 5.30pm Friday evening (about 20 hours before the GF ) for an admin error on PlayHQ in entering the team for the last Minor Round game that they received a forfeit. It didn't affect anything apart from a young lad playing his 1st ever season of cricket being only officially registered as playing 4 matches instead of the required 5.
After an audit of all players in all Semi Finals was done following the Semi Finals the error was picked up. Creek were eventually disqualified whilst several other players in other grades with very highly questionable qualifying records were very fortunate to escape penalty.
The disqualification was exceptionally severe under the circumstances and a lot of innocent people have suffered from this.
Play HQ has been an absolute debacle this year and has no doubt contributed to many issues throughout the season.
The Association needs to ensure these situations can not occur going forward as there are ultimately no winners out of it.

Maybe an audit by the Association in the week leading up to the Finals of what players are qualified for what grades and given to each Club to select their team from would almost be a foolproof way to ensure this doesn't happen again and take the worry out of the hands of Clubs volunteer admin people who have been under enough strain already without having to worry one click of the mouse can innocently end a teams Premiership dreams.

[Trader]

Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. .

Maccy copped a 93 run hiding in the Semi Final. Creeks were finally disqualified about 5.30pm Friday evening (about 20 hours before the GF ) for an admin error on PlayHQ in entering the team for the last Minor Round game that they received a forfeit. It didn't affect anything apart from a young lad playing his 1st ever season of cricket being only officially registered as playing 4 matches instead of the required 5.
After an audit of all players in all Semi Finals was done following the Semi Finals the error was picked up. Creek were eventually disqualified whilst several other players in other grades with very highly questionable qualifying records were very fortunate to escape penalty.
The disqualification was exceptionally severe under the circumstances and a lot of innocent people have suffered from this.
Play HQ has been an absolute debacle this year and has no doubt contributed to many issues throughout the season.
The Association needs to ensure these situations can not occur going forward as there are ultimately no winners out of it.

Maybe an audit by the Association in the week leading up to the Finals of what players are qualified for what grades and given to each Club to select their team from would almost be a foolproof way to ensure this doesn't happen again and take the worry out of the hands of Clubs volunteer admin people who have been under enough strain already without having to worry one click of the mouse can innocently end a teams Premiership dreams.

Cmon Jim,
Surely adults can take responsibility for their actions.
The club picked a player that wasn't qualified and are now saying the association should tell them who is qualified in advance?

Sure its a frustrating scenario, but each club should be checking the qualifications of their own players prior to picking their side.

[Tony Clifton]

Some netball associations do that

Send out a list of the players who have qualified for finals for each team

Such a crushing thing for a club. The poor volunteer who made the error would be distraught. A whole year down the tubes and no intent to stack the team with a higher grade player or a jet fill in, which is what the rule is there to prevent

Punishment doesn't fit

[caleb777]

Some netball associations do that

Send out a list of the players who have qualified for finals for each team

Such a crushing thing for a club. The poor volunteer who made the error would be distraught. A whole year down the tubes and no intent to stack the team with a higher grade player or a jet fill in, which is what the rule is there to prevent

Punishment doesn't fit

Harsh it may seem but how often does this situation occur? Teams know they cant do it on purpose. Yes it was an honest mistake and I feel for the volounteer who made the error but given the rarity of this happening i cant see how a rule change is really necessary. I think there is enough admin in this game. I think as soon as you start altering the rules for lower grades it just gets messy.

In saying that PLAYHQ has been simply the biggest pile of excrement to hit community sport in the history of our game. It is simply horrific.

[whufc]

In this day and age if we were using a decent system for the sport it should only take a couple of minutes for the league to bulk email all teams which players are available based on games played.

Unfortunately Playhq is crap and makes every aspect of the games admin shithouse.

[Armchair expert]

PlayHQ is terrible but not hard to ask a bloke how many games did you play this season.

[whufc]

PlayHQ is terrible but not hard to ask a bloke how many games did you play this season.

****...i cant remember what i did yesterday never mind how many games i played this season.....in fact i try and forget most games i play in.

[Barkeroo]

Cambrai break a 38 year drought by defending 6/126 against Gumeracha (rolled for just 73). In the B's Eden Valley tasted success for the first time in around 13-14 years, winning a higher scoring game by 13 runs, also against Gumeracha.

In the Hills, Stirling won the prelim against Aldgate, so will face Lofty next week. Stirling won a tight A2 final against Aldgate, while Basket Range claimed the A3s, capping off a rough day for Aldgate. Caught some of the action at Basket Range, magnificent spot to watch cricket. Seems Aldgate won the 16s and 14s.

Lobey beat Nairne by around 50 in the A's prelim, Mt Barker thumped Woodside by 10 wickets to claim the A2s, Lobey over Creek in the B's, Ashbourne came from 4th to beat Woodside in the C's and Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. Lobey had a comfortable win in the 14s, and Hahndorf spanked Nairne by 10 wickets in the 16s.

Basket Range is a beautiful oval to watch/play cricket at. Up there with Wistow for best view from an oval in the Hills (I may be biased )

[caleb777]

Cambrai break a 38 year drought by defending 6/126 against Gumeracha (rolled for just 73). In the B's Eden Valley tasted success for the first time in around 13-14 years, winning a higher scoring game by 13 runs, also against Gumeracha.

In the Hills, Stirling won the prelim against Aldgate, so will face Lofty next week. Stirling won a tight A2 final against Aldgate, while Basket Range claimed the A3s, capping off a rough day for Aldgate. Caught some of the action at Basket Range, magnificent spot to watch cricket. Seems Aldgate won the 16s and 14s.

Lobey beat Nairne by around 50 in the A's prelim, Mt Barker thumped Woodside by 10 wickets to claim the A2s, Lobey over Creek in the B's, Ashbourne came from 4th to beat Woodside in the C's and Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. Lobey had a comfortable win in the 14s, and Hahndorf spanked Nairne by 10 wickets in the 16s.

Basket Range is a beautiful oval to watch/play cricket at. Up there with Wistow for best view from an oval in the Hills (I may be biased )

Would agree with you there, Wistow is a wonderful place to play and watch cricket. I never got to play at Ashbourne as they had dropped to a2s by the time i arrived at hahndorf but that looks like a beautiful place to play as well.

[daysofourlives]

PlayHQ is terrible but not hard to ask a bloke how many games did you play this season.

exactly, it is only four or five games we are talking about here.

[jackpot jim]

Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. .

Maccy copped a 93 run hiding in the Semi Final. Creeks were finally disqualified about 5.30pm Friday evening (about 20 hours before the GF ) for an admin error on PlayHQ in entering the team for the last Minor Round game that they received a forfeit. It didn't affect anything apart from a young lad playing his 1st ever season of cricket being only officially registered as playing 4 matches instead of the required 5.
After an audit of all players in all Semi Finals was done following the Semi Finals the error was picked up. Creek were eventually disqualified whilst several other players in other grades with very highly questionable qualifying records were very fortunate to escape penalty.
The disqualification was exceptionally severe under the circumstances and a lot of innocent people have suffered from this.
Play HQ has been an absolute debacle this year and has no doubt contributed to many issues throughout the season.
The Association needs to ensure these situations can not occur going forward as there are ultimately no winners out of it.

Maybe an audit by the Association in the week leading up to the Finals of what players are qualified for what grades and given to each Club to select their team from would almost be a foolproof way to ensure this doesn't happen again and take the worry out of the hands of Clubs volunteer admin people who have been under enough strain already without having to worry one click of the mouse can innocently end a teams Premiership dreams.

Cmon Jim,
Surely adults can take responsibility for their actions.
The club picked a player that wasn't qualified and are now saying the association should tell them who is qualified in advance?

Sure its a frustrating scenario, but each club should be checking the qualifications of their own players prior to picking their side.

Not disagreeing but the Clubs admin thought he was qualified hence it was an oversight. Oversights are only made when you don't realise at the time til it's too late.
I know at least 3 other volunteers from various clubs that have had points lost over the years for innocent oversights and each time they were left distraught with the penalty. These people are the off field heroes that keep Clubs running and it's not fair that they suffer such emotional stresses for trying to do the right thing by their Club. Many only doing it as no one else will.

[Barkeroo]

Maccy won the D's in a low scoring game, despite initially "losing" their semi the week before. .

Maccy copped a 93 run hiding in the Semi Final. Creeks were finally disqualified about 5.30pm Friday evening (about 20 hours before the GF ) for an admin error on PlayHQ in entering the team for the last Minor Round game that they received a forfeit. It didn't affect anything apart from a young lad playing his 1st ever season of cricket being only officially registered as playing 4 matches instead of the required 5.
After an audit of all players in all Semi Finals was done following the Semi Finals the error was picked up. Creek were eventually disqualified whilst several other players in other grades with very highly questionable qualifying records were very fortunate to escape penalty.
The disqualification was exceptionally severe under the circumstances and a lot of innocent people have suffered from this.
Play HQ has been an absolute debacle this year and has no doubt contributed to many issues throughout the season.
The Association needs to ensure these situations can not occur going forward as there are ultimately no winners out of it.

Maybe an audit by the Association in the week leading up to the Finals of what players are qualified for what grades and given to each Club to select their team from would almost be a foolproof way to ensure this doesn't happen again and take the worry out of the hands of Clubs volunteer admin people who have been under enough strain already without having to worry one click of the mouse can innocently end a teams Premiership dreams.

Cmon Jim,
Surely adults can take responsibility for their actions.
The club picked a player that wasn't qualified and are now saying the association should tell them who is qualified in advance?

Sure its a frustrating scenario, but each club should be checking the qualifications of their own players prior to picking their side.

Not disagreeing but the Clubs admin thought he was qualified hence it was an oversight. Oversights are only made when you don't realise at the time til it's too late.
I know at least 3 other volunteers from various clubs that have had points lost over the years for innocent oversights and each time they were left distraught with the penalty. These people are the off field heroes that keep Clubs running and it's not fair that they suffer such emotional stresses for trying to do the right thing by their Club. Many only doing it as no one else will.

Then you really hope that you don't lose these types of volunteers after these incidents as well. Alot of people underestimate how much off-field paperwork etc that there is to get teams on the park each week.

[Barkeroo]

Lobethal win it!
Batted first and made 166 and bowled Langhorne Creek out for 91

[jackpot jim]

Lenswood CC have applied to join the A&EHCA

Suggest they'd be looking at 2 Senior teams. A2 and C Grade

They have fielded junior teams in A&EHCA for quite a few years and have had a team in the T20 comp a few times

Cant see it being an issue if they came in.

Guessing a decision will be made at the AGM on July 31st where Clubs will vote on it

[caleb777]

Lenswood CC have applied to join the A&EHCA

Suggest they'd be looking at 2 Senior teams. A2 and C Grade

They have fielded junior teams in A&EHCA for quite a few years and have had a team in the T20 comp a few times

Cant see it being an issue if they came in.

Guessing a decision will be made at the AGM on July 31st where Clubs will vote on it

Thats excellent news for the comp. Credit to the executive and how they have run the organisation.

[Barkeroo]

Lenswood CC have applied to join the A&EHCA

Suggest they'd be looking at 2 Senior teams. A2 and C Grade

They have fielded junior teams in A&EHCA for quite a few years and have had a team in the T20 comp a few times

Cant see it being an issue if they came in.

Guessing a decision will be made at the AGM on July 31st where Clubs will vote on it

Yeah can't see it being an issue. Lobethal isn't far away so travel can't be used to deny them entry.
Will be good for Lenswood as well. With all the different grades in A&EH they be able to find their level and build from there.

[Tony Clifton]

How does that leave the Torrens Valley association? Is it Lobethal, Woodside and now Lenswood who have made the jump across?

[saintal]

A proposal was emailed through to the two AEHCA presidents about a month ago, and I had a chat with Mark about this and hills cricket more broadly earlier this week. A potential move has been debated/considered for a few years, and now feels like a good time to make a formal approach. There’s been a lot to weigh up, but overall feel the benefits outweigh the drawbacks from our viewpoint.

From a personal point of view, as somebody who’s played 30+ seasons within TVCA and has had a fair bit of involvement in the admin side of the association over the past 15 years, I’ve dwelled on the pros and cons of moving more than most.

IF the move does happen, it’ll leave TVCA with 6 active clubs for next season. Thin yes, but still viable in the short term. I do have concerns about the longer term sustainability of the B Grade comp however. If another domino fell and hypothetically only 5 clubs remained though, you'd imagine the end would come rather swiftly.

In 2008/09 we had 12 clubs in TVCA, with Lobethal and Woodside moving; Kersbrook, Mt Pleasant/Springton, Mt Torrens/Charleston having folded (twice in the case of Mt Pleasant..who did resurface for 3 years) while Rose Park also made a cameo appearance for a couple of seasons before unfortunately folding. A lot has certainly changed in 14 years.

[FlyingHigh]

A proposal was emailed through to the two AEHCA presidents about a month ago, and I had a chat with Mark about this and hills cricket more broadly earlier this week. A potential move has been debated/considered for a few years, and now feels like a good time to make a formal approach. There’s been a lot to weigh up, but overall feel the benefits outweigh the drawbacks from our viewpoint.

From a personal point of view, as somebody who’s played 30+ seasons within TVCA and has had a fair bit of involvement in the admin side of the association over the past 15 years, I’ve dwelled on the pros and cons of moving more than most.

IF the move does happen, it’ll leave TVCA with 6 active clubs for next season. Thin yes, but still viable in the short term. I do have concerns about the longer term sustainability of the B Grade comp however. If another domino fell and hypothetically only 5 clubs remained though, you'd imagine the end would come rather swiftly.

In 2008/09 we had 12 clubs in TVCA, with Lobethal and Woodside moving; Kersbrook, Mt Pleasant/Springton, Mt Torrens/Charleston having folded (twice in the case of Mt Pleasant..who did resurface for 3 years) while Rose Park also made a cameo appearance for a couple of seasons before unfortunately folding. A lot has certainly changed in 14 years.

You must be about the same vintage as me saintal.

While I haven't had much to do with TVCA for a long time, this does make me sad. What are some of the reasons why Lenswood are looking at going? Has the TVCA been active in trying to get any sort of junior competition going, even if it was only 4 "zone" teams rather than clubs?

Did MT/C not have a team last year? Did they only last one season down the hill with Athlestone?

Mannum and Barossa Districts are former clubs too. There were years when there was around 30 teams playing across all the grades and it was a logistical nightmare just to find enough grounds.

[Tony Clifton]

Certainty a tough one for clubs. They have a history with their association and with rival clubs but if that association can't provide a level of cricket suitable for their teams? Clubs have to do what's best for their members and these decisions aren't made lightly.

It gets tough for associations. Other clubs look around thinking that if 1-2 more clubs go then what...? Start formulating their own exit plan or at least exploring Plan Bs. The end can come quickly. What are the chances some of those dormant clubs could restablish themselves? Does TVCA have a junior competition of its own?