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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:44 pm

So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:49 pm

Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....
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Re: ATCA

Postby threestars » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:17 am

heater31 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Well poor old Grange missed out on some vital dollars on the weekend when one of the clubs who have been advocating to play (Payneham) couldn't field a B1 side.........I hope Payneham share some of their revenue from them hosting the A1 game with Grange to make up for it!
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Re: ATCA

Postby bloods08 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:23 pm

You would think that it should be an automatic forfeit of their C2 side next week. Sucks for us though as it would mean another week without cricket.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:32 pm

heater31 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Speaking of Goodwood, what's happening with their deck at the moment?
Two sides in 2 rounds skittled for under 50, and the T20 wash out when most other games got away.

Used to be one of the best decks in turf cricket that was well maintained.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:35 pm

bloods08 wrote:You would think that it should be an automatic forfeit of their C2 side next week. Sucks for us though as it would mean another week without cricket.


Yeah it's an interesting one.
The bylaws if read as black and white do make it a C2 forfeit as well.

That said, the turf usually err on the side of encouraging cricket to be played (which I think is a good thing), and as such, I recon they'll use the fact the bylaws have a clause to the effect of 2-day and 1-day comps are separate, and say that for the purpose of this bylaw, this round B2-C3 are considered 1-dayers.

Interesting though, especially if Payneham put half a dozen B1 players into the C2 side, would make it a tough call for the Turf then if a query was lodged!
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:44 pm

Trader wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Speaking of Goodwood, what's happening with their deck at the moment?
Two sides in 2 rounds skittled for under 50, and the T20 wash out when most other games got away.

Used to be one of the best decks in turf cricket that was well maintained.

Think it's the classic Council curators curse...
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Re: ATCA

Postby jo172 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:11 pm

threestars wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Well poor old Grange missed out on some vital dollars on the weekend when one of the clubs who have been advocating to play (Payneham) couldn't field a B1 side.........I hope Payneham share some of their revenue from them hosting the A1 game with Grange to make up for it!


Who should Payneham send their customary $20 revenue to?
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:13 pm

jo172 wrote:
threestars wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So, did clubs rake in thousands of dollars over the bar during the test match Saturday?

Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Well poor old Grange missed out on some vital dollars on the weekend when one of the clubs who have been advocating to play (Payneham) couldn't field a B1 side.........I hope Payneham share some of their revenue from them hosting the A1 game with Grange to make up for it!


Who should Payneham send their customary $20 revenue to?

Try the $250 invoice sent to 2 A1 clubs for a GF a couple of years ago ;)
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Re: ATCA

Postby jo172 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:32 pm

heater31 wrote:
jo172 wrote:
threestars wrote:
heater31 wrote:Goodwood would have rather spent the day on the Village Green.....


Well poor old Grange missed out on some vital dollars on the weekend when one of the clubs who have been advocating to play (Payneham) couldn't field a B1 side.........I hope Payneham share some of their revenue from them hosting the A1 game with Grange to make up for it!


Who should Payneham send their customary $20 revenue to?

Try the $250 invoice sent to 2 A1 clubs for a GF a couple of years ago ;)


As someone who has worked that bar during a Saturday in cricket season that invoice would comprise a months worth of Grand Finals!
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Re: ATCA

Postby WellLeft » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:56 am

jo172 wrote:
As someone who has worked that bar during a Saturday in cricket season that invoice would comprise a months worth of Grand Finals!


Do they pay their bar staff or is it volunteer?
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Re: ATCA

Postby human_torpedo » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:26 am

Trader wrote:
bloods08 wrote:You would think that it should be an automatic forfeit of their C2 side next week. Sucks for us though as it would mean another week without cricket.


Yeah it's an interesting one.
The bylaws if read as black and white do make it a C2 forfeit as well.

That said, the turf usually err on the side of encouraging cricket to be played (which I think is a good thing), and as such, I recon they'll use the fact the bylaws have a clause to the effect of 2-day and 1-day comps are separate, and say that for the purpose of this bylaw, this round B2-C3 are considered 1-dayers.

Interesting though, especially if Payneham put half a dozen B1 players into the C2 side, would make it a tough call for the Turf then if a query was lodged!

Surely given that C2 is a 1 dayer and B1 is a 2 dayer then they cant enforce that?

Interesting that they couldn't field a second 2 day side on test match weekend when they would usually have 3 sides.. That's an enormous amount of unavailability..
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:25 am

human_torpedo wrote:Interesting that they couldn't field a second 2 day side on test match weekend when they would usually have 3 sides.. That's an enormous amount of unavailability..


Not the only club that struggled from all reports. Was nearly a forfeit in A3.

The Adelaide test used to be a boring game that went 5 days and would normally only get exciting on days 4 and 5 as teams pushed for a result.
The Saturday, which historically was day 2 or 3, were often flat decks and teams grinding out 4/350 in a day. People were happy to give it a miss and play cricket themselves.

Now days the test only goes 3-4 days and is generally far more balanced between bat and ball.

Next year (17/18) is the ashes, which means all grades off.
I recon there will be another vote before the 18/19 season and we will move to the test match round simply being a 1-day fixture in all grades, as with round 1.

The other argument of district clubs needing play as they rely on the bar revenue, well, it was always a laugh listening to that argument, and its a lot harder for Payneham to put it up now after they forfeited themselves.
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Re: ATCA

Postby human_torpedo » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:41 am

We struggled last year to fill a side, had 3 blokes play A grade that game as the only time that year.. This year wasn't so bad, but still had 3 u/a. That's a fairly standard thing for our club though..

I will always sit on the side of just not playing test match weekend. People will rant and rave that we miss enough cricket through wash outs and heat policy days, but with 21 days of cricket plus t20 commitments I think that's enough to justify a season..

The bar revenue argument is laughable, I couldn't agree more..
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:42 pm

Who makes the decision to play? Do the clubs vote? Or is there an elected Board that makes the call themselves?
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:53 pm

Clubs submit suggestions for changes to the comp to the turf (ATCA board). The turf also come up with suggested changes they think will improve the comp.
Based on these two avenues for suggested changes, the turf then put a survey out to all clubs to vote and or provide comment on the proposed changes.
The turf review the results of the survey and change or otherwise the bylaws accordingly.
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Re: ATCA

Postby human_torpedo » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:12 am

I was hoping to see Payneham v Grange in C2 this week and essentially just see the B1 sides line up in C2 one dayer.. Unfortunately not to be
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:13 am

How was Harvey Box's effort on the weekend. Got dropped from A1 and played in Para Hills B1s against Reynella.
7 overs, 7 maidens, 1/0.

Muldoon from SPOC picked up 8/29 against Goodwood in A1.

But for mine, the most impressive performance, in Pulteney's A3s Matthew van der Sommen apparently batted 11 hours and 40 mins for a grand total of 11 not out!!!
I'd assume there was a timing issue given a full days play is only 4 hours 40 mins!

The SHOC vs Gepps A3 game was interesting. Gepps got rolled for 116, but then looked home when they had SHOC 7/65 and then 9/86, only for the last wicket to put on 45 and get the boys over the line!
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:18 am

ATCA Team to play ASCA.....

Travis Wordsworth (C) – Para Hills
Mark Barber - Payneham
Gareth Cox – Walkerville
James Stagg - Payneham
Niall Solomon - Grange
Matthew Hill - SPOC
Russell Stanborough -Marion
Warrick Stanborough - Marion
Jarrad Sykes - Hope Valley
Kieran Grundy - Para Hills
Ryan Fry - Grange
Dylan Fry - Grange

Some interesting selections
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:55 am

Basically comes down to if you want to play you get a game.

Stagg and Grundy haven't done much this season.

But how on earth do the Fry lads make it...
Ryan, 4 matches, 4 wickets, 1 score over 4 (31).
Dylan, 4 matches, 1 wicket, 1 score over 4 (16).

Must be bloody handy fielders...
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