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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:13 am

It barely garnered any attention, but the Greens motion to disallow the Gene Technology Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Regulations 2019 was defeated by LNP and Labor in a strong show of bipartisanship (proof they can actually cooperate).

Now SA just needs the Greens motion to disallow regulations that would lift the moratorium on mainland South Australia to be defeated next week - there is a strong reliance on the SA Best vote, which on paper suggests they would be in favour of the science, but minor parties can be unpredictable.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Psyber » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:11 pm

Gene Technology Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Regulations 2019...
I had a bit of a browse through to see what the issues were but got bored before I got the the core issues.
EPIGENETICS - Lamarck was right!
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:23 am

Q. wrote:It barely garnered any attention, but the Greens motion to disallow the Gene Technology Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Regulations 2019 was defeated by LNP and Labor in a strong show of bipartisanship (proof they can actually cooperate).

Now SA just needs the Greens motion to disallow regulations that would lift the moratorium on mainland South Australia to be defeated next week - there is a strong reliance on the SA Best vote, which on paper suggests they would be in favour of the science, but minor parties can be unpredictable.

Did you just call the Leon Byner Program regarding the above?
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Gozu » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:59 pm

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young wins her defamation case against former nut job politician David Leyonhjelm.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/hanson- ... 53dw3.html

Leyonhjelm will have to pay her $120,000 plus interest and legal costs, sucked in that clown disgraced the parliament.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:35 am

Gozu wrote:Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young wins her defamation case against former nut job politician David Leyonhjelm.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/hanson- ... 53dw3.html

Leyonhjelm will have to pay her $120,000 plus interest and legal costs, sucked in that clown disgraced the parliament.
Oh well poor old David.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby DOC » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:25 pm

Angus Taylor. now the subject of a Police investigation for the doctored documents regarding Clover Moores travel costs.

Despite this very clear standard:

The PM’s “Statement of Ministerial Standards” Clause 7:1
“...a Minister should stand aside if that Minister becomes the subject of an official investigation of alleged illegal or improper conduct.”

The PM has said that he does not need to stand aside. He is off to Spain in a week for an UN Climate Conference.

No point in having the standards then.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:28 pm

DOC wrote:Angus Taylor. now the subject of a Police investigation for the doctored documents regarding Clover Moores travel costs.

Despite this very clear standard:

The PM’s “Statement of Ministerial Standards” Clause 7:1
“...a Minister should stand aside if that Minister becomes the subject of an official investigation of alleged illegal or improper conduct.”

The PM has said that he does not need to stand aside. He is off to Spain in a week for an UN Climate Conference.

No point in having the standards then.


Mr Morrison rejected calls to stand Mr Taylor aside, telling Federal Parliament he had spoken with NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller who told him the "nature and substance" of inquiries were based solely on the allegations referred to them last month by shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus.


Imagine if he made him stand aside. There would be Police complaints made by the Opposition about every minister regardless of which side is in government.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby DOC » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:36 am

The very first part of that standard puts the onus on the minister to stand aside.

It is there for a reason, namely that the person being investigated is at arms length from the staff and infrastructure whom the investigation will centre upon.

I get the point about police complaints made by you. Vexatious complaints waste a lot of valuable time and resources.

The smartest move by the Government would have been to refer the matter themselves as the corrupted information meant that the minister mislead the parliament which is a serious matter.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Magellan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:16 am

The bigger point in this affair is that it calls into serious question the judgments of Taylor and Morrison. Taylor should've ignored the temptation to criticise Clover Moore, and Morrison shouldn't have called the police commissioner.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby DOC » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 pm

And, the Police Commissioner should have replied like you would to all third parties, and not commented on the investigation.

For him to do so is poor judgement. For the PM to say in parliament that of course he would ring the Commissioner, who else would he ring (mmmm perhaps the investigating officer?) is even poorer judgement. May not have been intended but to do so but the call itself compromises police independence (learnt perhaps from the Peter Dutton school of visa grants) and puts into question the legitimacy of any findings.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Magellan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:23 pm

DOC wrote:And, the Police Commissioner should have replied like you would to all third parties, and not commented on the investigation.

For him to do so is poor judgement. For the PM to say in parliament that of course he would ring the Commissioner, who else would he ring (mmmm perhaps the investigating officer?) is even poorer judgement. May not have been intended but to do so but the call itself compromises police independence (learnt perhaps from the Peter Dutton school of visa grants) and puts into question the legitimacy of any findings.

To be honest, there's nothing to see here. ScoMo's got God on his side, and apparently he votes Liberal. ;)
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:58 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
Q. wrote:It barely garnered any attention, but the Greens motion to disallow the Gene Technology Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Regulations 2019 was defeated by LNP and Labor in a strong show of bipartisanship (proof they can actually cooperate).

Now SA just needs the Greens motion to disallow regulations that would lift the moratorium on mainland South Australia to be defeated next week - there is a strong reliance on the SA Best vote, which on paper suggests they would be in favour of the science, but minor parties can be unpredictable.

Did you just call the Leon Byner Program regarding the above?


Ha, no, but I know the gentleman who Byner cut off.

SA-BEST vote passes the disallowance motion. SA remains a scientific backwater state.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:01 pm

DOC wrote:Angus Taylor. now the subject of a Police investigation for the doctored documents regarding Clover Moores travel costs.

Despite this very clear standard:

The PM’s “Statement of Ministerial Standards” Clause 7:1
“...a Minister should stand aside if that Minister becomes the subject of an official investigation of alleged illegal or improper conduct.”

The PM has said that he does not need to stand aside. He is off to Spain in a week for an UN Climate Conference.

No point in having the standards then.


Never known a more corrupt government than we have now.

They are a disgrace - Dutton today, in defending Taylor, launched a bizarre attack on Albo's hairline :shock:
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:28 am

Even after defeat, Morrison continues his tirade against supposed union thugs... while at the same time continue to hit the criminal banking sector with a wet lettuce leaf.
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