The Mad Monk strikes again.

[Gozu]

What is the Lavoisier Group?

"The Lavoisier Group is an organisation based in Australia that promotes scepticism of current scientific consensus on global warming."

"The sources of funding for the group are not public, but the Sydney Morning Herald claimed it has links to many groups that have until recently been funded as part of the Exxon Mobil climate change skepticism campaign. That campaign recently ceased after a shareholder revolt."

"Secretary Ray Evans describes the 90-odd Lavoisier members as a "dad's army" of mostly retired engineers and scientists from the mining, manufacturing and construction industries,[6] such as Garth Paltridge and Ian Plimer. The annual subscription fee is 50 dollars, and the annual budget is 10,000 dollars."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavoisier_Group

"The Lavoisier Group is a global warming skeptic organisation, based in Australia. It argues that the evidence for global warming is based on inexact science and that any policy responses, such as signing the Kyoto Protocol, would be too expensive for Australia's industry.

The group is closely associated with the Australian mining industry, and was founded in 2000 by Ray Evans, then an executive at Western Mining Corporation (WMC), who was also involved in founding the HR Nicholls Society and the Bennelong Society. Hugh Morgan, former WMC boss and head of the Business Council of Australia until 2005, delivered the group's inaugural speech."

"In 2001 Australian economist John Quiggin wrote that the Lavoisier Group is "devoted to the proposition that basic principles of physics...cease to apply when they come into conflict with the interests of the Australian coal industry."

The Lavoisier Group's website is designed by Chris Ulyatt, Editorial Director at the Institute of Public Affairs from 1991-1998.

(This post office box is shared by the HR Nicholls Society and the Bennelong Society)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... sier_Group

[Psyber]

As usual Gozu you present the view from far left of the Labor Party.
Of course I have some sympathy with the views I quoted - I've been an employer and have been ripped off by slackers and had supplies stolen repeatedly.
On the other hand because I was able to get rid of the transgressors reasonably easily, I finished up with reliable decent staff
And, I paid them over award rates once they had demonstrated their commitment to doing the job well.

As a small employer with no margin to carry passengers and thieves I would have been in deep financial strife if they could have made me have to prove in Court what I knew they had done.
Bob Hawke's view was one of the reasons I stopped being an employer of anyone but family after 1987...

However, as I said, the fact that I feel positive about the broad statement of their aims does not mean I would agree with the details that vested interests may want to build on to those bones.
Similarly, while I am sceptical about the issue of whether global warming is caused significantly by man at this time, I do not embrace the approach of the Lavoisier Group.
I would be cautious about the influence of vested interests there too, just as I am about the vested interests of the pro-anthropogenic global warming industry.

[Gozu]

Tony Abbott too right-wing even for Andrew Bolt? The Bolt sheep are not happy.

"What does Abbott fear they might do to him?":

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... do_to_him/