The Mad Monk strikes again.

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The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:17 am

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politic ... 5823300045

No mention of men saving themselves for marriage however. So who would they lose their virginity to???? :shock:
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Psyber » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:26 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/tony-abbott-warns-women-against-sex-before-marriage/story-e6frgczf-1225823300045
No mention of men saving themselves for marriage however. So who would they lose their virginity to???? :shock:
Actually, in an interview on TV I saw he did suggest men should save themselves for marriage too, and admitted he had in his youth fallen short of his own ideals.
I'm saying that in fairness, not advocating for his views...
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Gingernuts » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:11 am

He's also clarified the context of his comments:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/27/2802087.htm
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby fisho mcspaz » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:02 pm

That's the way, Tony! Teach abstinence, not contraception! :roll:
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Gozu » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:28 pm

Not exactly sure where to put this but it needs to be highlighted.

"How many jobs will Barnaby Joyce cost Australia?":

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/04/how ... australia/
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Psyber » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:16 pm

I didn't see is performance, but regarding. "How many jobs will Barnaby Joyce cost Australia?", I'd predict a lot less that the bright idea of dropping tariff barriers did.
The legendary "Blind Freddy" could nave predicted the decline in "at home" manufacturing that followed that, and the inability of the displaced workers to train up for the hypothetical boom in IT jobs in our future "clever country". [Pity the Indians got in first there.] ;)
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby redandblack » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:34 pm

Oh, Psyber, what a disappointing response. I have to give you some credit, though, for such a partisan diversion of breathtaking irrelevance.

I recall a Labor Treasurer being forced to resign (I think it was John Kerin) for not knowing what some economic initials stood for and he was regarded as a laughing stock because of it.

I suppose Barnaby escapes criticism, not because of a wimp right-wing press, but because everyone knows he actualy is an economic buffoon.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Psyber » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:35 pm

redandblack wrote:Oh, Psyber, what a disappointing response. I have to give you some credit, though, for such a partisan diversion of breathtaking irrelevance.
I recall a Labor Treasurer being forced to resign (I think it was John Kerin) for not knowing what some economic initials stood for and he was regarded as a laughing stock because of it.
I suppose Barnaby escapes criticism, not because of a wimp right-wing press, but because everyone knows he actualy is an economic buffoon.
I'm not defending Barnaby Joyce in any way - as I said I didn't see or hear it. So, I have no comment on that.
The job loss issue is something I care about though - there has always been an employment problem for those with limited retraining capacity, and I used to work in the area of assisting them.

I did, and still do, think that dropping tariff barriers and killing off our manufacturing base, which provided low level process work for those who didn't have the intellectual skills to be retrained for higher tech jobs was a major mistake, and that suggesting they would all move into jobs created by the IT boom was naive, to say the least. It was, and is, sad because, now that we are all used to much cheaper manufactured commodities than could ever be produced here, those jobs are not recoverable.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby mick » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:28 am

I don't agree with Abbott on his issues with regard to viginity, abortion etc. BUT it is great to see a political leader air his personal priciples in public without minders and spin. The "mad monk" has revitalised the opposition,this is a good thing. The boring beige beaurocrat is now going to have to deliver. If Abbott can push "the great big new tax" line effectively, he's a real chance to end up PM.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Dirko » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:37 am

I saw a picture of his daughters. If they were my daughters I'd be telling 'em to stay Virgins, but if tempted turn to Lesbianism.....
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby redandblack » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:26 am

mick wrote:I don't agree with Abbott on his issues with regard to viginity, abortion etc. BUT it is great to see a political leader air his personal priciples in public without minders and spin. The "mad monk" has revitalised the opposition,this is a good thing. The boring beige beaurocrat is now going to have to deliver. If Abbott can push "the great big new tax" line effectively, he's a real chance to end up PM.


Not while Barnaby Joyce is his finance spokesman.

As they say, 'a freak show'.

As for pushing the great big new tax line, he's using it every sentence he utters.

bad luck about his joke of a climate change policy :roll:
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby mick » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:32 am

I agree Barnaby is a shocker and should go. Unfortunately Rudd has made such a mess of climate change (explaing ETS) and after the debacle in Copenhagen, will it continue to be a big issue? On the Labor side Penny Wong has been less than spectacular, she ticks all the PC boxes so I suppose she'll stay. One thing is for sure increasing taxes is always a big issue.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:16 pm

And it just get's better......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politic ... 5828211437

Let's hope the woman of australia can drag themsleves away from their housework to get out and vote on election day. :roll:

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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:26 pm

redandblack wrote:
mick wrote:I don't agree with Abbott on his issues with regard to viginity, abortion etc. BUT it is great to see a political leader air his personal priciples in public without minders and spin. The "mad monk" has revitalised the opposition,this is a good thing. The boring beige beaurocrat is now going to have to deliver. If Abbott can push "the great big new tax" line effectively, he's a real chance to end up PM.


Not while Barnaby Joyce is his finance spokesman.

As they say, 'a freak show'.

As for pushing the great big new tax line, he's using it every sentence he utters.

bad luck about his joke of a climate change policy :roll:


Or more to the point, every sentence he stutters. Yes, we know he is an embarrassment R&B. :oops:

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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby redandblack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:58 pm

Oh dear, Barnaby's been at it again.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 814351.htm

He'll have to go.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Psyber » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:18 pm

redandblack wrote:Oh dear, Barnaby's been at it again.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 814351.htm
He'll have to go.
I've read that one and I'll reserve judgement on his accuracy of his opinion until I see some figures.
It may be purely speculative, because, surely, the states have never been close to being unable to fund their borrowings and other obligations before..
Or, have they? :? 8)
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby redandblack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:33 pm

Psyber, regardless of the figures, it is totally irresponsible of any politician to make those sort of comments.

It's been so since the start of politics in this country.

Do you know that?

Fair's fair, mate, I know we have different opinions, but some things are a no-brainer.

Oh......... ;)
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby dedja » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:05 pm

I'll support R&B 1000000000% on this one.

Barnaby is confusing local politics with international monetary policy, Australia's credit rating and the reaction of the world stock markets. This confusion has the potential to spook the markets globally.

Wrong battle in the wrong arena for mine.

He is completely out of his depth and must be removed immediately before he damages Australia's international reputation ... which he is risking solely to score political points.

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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby fisho mcspaz » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:22 am

Barnaby is a shocker. I'd say he was the Kyle Sandilands of the political scene, except that the things he says aren't designed primarily to offend people - he actually seems to believe his own bullsh1t.
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Re: The Mad Monk strikes again.

Postby Psyber » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:34 am

Regardless of this guys fitness for the job, which I don't have an opinion on yet until I see a bit more, I am personally concerned about the level of debt that is being run up by our federal government.
I was not convinced the stimulus package was necessary, and while I was never a fan of Paul Keating, I don't think he would have done it - he didn't in 1987 in similar circumstances
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