by Sojourner » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:11 pm
by Q. » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:18 pm
by CENTURION » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:38 pm
by fish » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:48 pm
Australia has higher carbon dioxide emissions per person than virtually every other country in the world - higher than NZ, China, the US, India and well above the world average. We emit more than our fair share of the stuff!Sojourner wrote:Its being mentioned over and over on the Anti Carbon Tax ad that Australia will have the highest Carbon Tax price per tonne in the world, I know New Zealand is less than half, but is that true that we will have the highest price? Why? Why not have the same scheme as NZ to get it started?
by Sojourner » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:43 pm
by straight talker » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:19 pm
Sojourner wrote:Again why not then pay the same price as New Zealand per Tonne if its charged out by the Tonne of emission? More Tonnes of Carbon, then more taxation applies, having a high price per tonne only penalises those who do cut there emmissions as their costs are still higher than companies in other western nations that pay a lesser tax.
by fish » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:26 pm
Based on the 2008 figures I posted, Australias per-capita carbon dioxide emissions (18.9 tonnes per person) are more than twice as high as New Zealands (7.8 tonnes per person).Sojourner wrote:Again why not then pay the same price as New Zealand per Tonne if its charged out by the Tonne of emission? More Tonnes of Carbon, then more taxation applies, having a high price per tonne only penalises those who do cut there emmissions as their costs are still higher than companies in other western nations that pay a lesser tax.
by Psyber » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:47 am
fish wrote:Based on the 2008 figures I posted, Australias per-capita carbon dioxide emissions (18.9 tonnes per person) are more than twice as high as New Zealands (7.8 tonnes per person).Sojourner wrote:Again why not then pay the same price as New Zealand per Tonne if its charged out by the Tonne of emission? More Tonnes of Carbon, then more taxation applies, having a high price per tonne only penalises those who do cut there emmissions as their costs are still higher than companies in other western nations that pay a lesser tax.
In general terms, this means we have to work harder to get our emissions down to a sustainable global level.
I'd suggest that the carbon price would depend on the emissions reduction target, on what is and isn't included in the scheme, and also on the nature of the economy.
Also, in a floating-carbon-price scheme (which we will eventually have) the price is essentially set by the market and may fluctuate.
by cripple » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:02 am
by straight talker » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:58 pm
cripple wrote:So if New Zealand already have a carbon tax, does that mean we get to stop watching those painful ad's stating "no one else has a carbon tax, why should we?" That would be the best thing for everyone.
by fish » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:32 pm
Wrong Psyber. With a decreasing number of "credits" available each year, emissions will decrease no matter how when or at what price the credits are traded.Psyber wrote:Just trading credits will change nothing.
by Bully » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:56 am
by straight talker » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:31 pm
straight talker wrote:cripple wrote:So if New Zealand already have a carbon tax, does that mean we get to stop watching those painful ad's stating "no one else has a carbon tax, why should we?" That would be the best thing for everyone.
I think the question we should be asking is: How are the economies of the countries/states that have introduced a carbon tax gone since it was introduced? What has the introduction of a carbon tax done to bring levels down?
How many jobs have been gained or lost since the introduction of the carbon tax?
by Sojourner » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:13 am
by Bully » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:43 pm
straight talker wrote:straight talker wrote:cripple wrote:So if New Zealand already have a carbon tax, does that mean we get to stop watching those painful ad's stating "no one else has a carbon tax, why should we?" That would be the best thing for everyone.
I think the question we should be asking is: How are the economies of the countries/states that have introduced a carbon tax gone since it was introduced? What has the introduction of a carbon tax done to bring levels down?
How many jobs have been gained or lost since the introduction of the carbon tax?
no answers fish or gozo?
by Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:34 pm
Bully wrote:straight talker wrote:straight talker wrote:cripple wrote:So if New Zealand already have a carbon tax, does that mean we get to stop watching those painful ad's stating "no one else has a carbon tax, why should we?" That would be the best thing for everyone.
I think the question we should be asking is: How are the economies of the countries/states that have introduced a carbon tax gone since it was introduced? What has the introduction of a carbon tax done to bring levels down?
How many jobs have been gained or lost since the introduction of the carbon tax?
no answers fish or gozo?
just extra money for their respective governments.
This tax is going through and i cant wait until julia calls an election in the coming months because we will see the end of this stupid idea!!
by best on hill » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:50 am
by Q. » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:04 pm
best on hill wrote:im just watching the news on ABC 24 and the carbon tax has been passed through the lower house!
whether you are from the left or the right your thoughts!
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:07 pm
fish wrote:Australia has higher carbon dioxide emissions per person than virtually every other country in the world - higher than NZ, China, the US, India and well above the world average. We emit more than our fair share of the stuff!Sojourner wrote:Its being mentioned over and over on the Anti Carbon Tax ad that Australia will have the highest Carbon Tax price per tonne in the world, I know New Zealand is less than half, but is that true that we will have the highest price? Why? Why not have the same scheme as NZ to get it started?
Here is a list of carbon dioxide emissions per capita 1990 to 2008.
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:08 pm
Quichey wrote:best on hill wrote:im just watching the news on ABC 24 and the carbon tax has been passed through the lower house!
whether you are from the left or the right your thoughts!
Put on your helmets, the Upper House is about to crash the party...
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