Are the SA Government in trouble?

[stan]

I really love state governments, full of nothing but hot air. Very much like local councils. The problem here in SA is that it wont matter who is in charge, nothing will happen. Lets be honest, if there is a liberal gov here, well it will just be another form of bullshite. Lets look at the water issue here in SA. The Desal plant should be half way in construction now, but probably wont even start to get even designed until well another year. Its just too hard to get past all the minority groups here in SA. No to mention issue with local councils.
But hey getting rid of state governments might actually get us all somwhere, it might even slow some of the buck passing that goes on. Also SA government if your going to build a new hospital, go a head and actually f****** build it.
Take a leaf from Victoria, if you need something then go ahead and build it.

[heater31]

Take a leaf from Victoria, if you need something then go ahead and build it.

yes but what do we actually need???? well it depends on which minority group opens its yap. One group including the Government say we need a new hospital. Other groups who have no idea on what they are commenting on say we can renovate the current one. Well sorry those in the building industry know buildings have only a limited useful life before it is uneconomical to renovate again for its present use. Sadly the RAH is at this point IMHO.

the Other groups want a new sports stadium in the city. all well and good what sports will that be?? Everything overlaps their seasons and it would make it impossible to play both cricket and soccer at the same venue for an entire season for example. I agree that we need a bigger rectangular venue to host those larger games maybe 4 or 5 times a year but it is pointless to give them 50,000 seats when they struggle to fill 1/5th of that for a regular season game. All Footy Pk requires is some decent transport networks servicing it other than road based systems then it would be fine.

[Gozu]

The Desal plant will cost a shedload though and we will be the ones that end up paying for it. I have to be honest there is so much about this Rann government that pisses me off. They're too right-wing. Still nothing else to vote for as the Libs are far-right extremists who try and sell off anything not bolted down and are full of religious fundy's. That being said Rann has done a bit of privatisation himself and has that stooge Monsignor Cappo in the tent cutting ourageous land deals for the Cathoilc church. And the less said about Mick Atkinson the better.

Seriously though as if MLS and the Libs think they'll get up with their "a Footy Park in the city because the toffs in the Eastern suburbs cant be bothered driving to West Lakes" policy. Bang there goes a Billion dollars! Not in this climate folks and money doesnt grow on trees. I wonder what they'll try and privatise to pay for that?

[Psyber]

I would have thought SA would have been the first state to build a desalination plant instead of expecting the upriver states to play nice and release water to save the Murray.
Look at other examples around the world like the Colorado River - it never happens.

[redden whites]

Did I hear that the state Libs had done the backflip on the Super Stadium ????
Did the backflip if it has happened, get the same press as the build up???

[Hondo]

Did I hear that the state Libs had done the backflip on the Super Stadium ????
Did the backflip if it has happened, get the same press as the build up???

I heard an interview with Martin2010 where he didn't rule it out but, for the 1st time, he said they would have to consider it along with all the priorities if they win the next election

ie, I was using the concept to get support and raise my profile BUT now I realise in the current economic conditions I will never be able to deliver so I'll back out as quietly as possible

The interviewers went pretty easy on him I thought

[stan]

Take a leaf from Victoria, if you need something then go ahead and build it.

yes but what do we actually need???? well it depends on which minority group opens its yap. One group including the Government say we need a new hospital. Other groups who have no idea on what they are commenting on say we can renovate the current one. Well sorry those in the building industry know buildings have only a limited useful life before it is uneconomical to renovate again for its present use. Sadly the RAH is at this point IMHO.

the Other groups want a new sports stadium in the city. all well and good what sports will that be?? Everything overlaps their seasons and it would make it impossible to play both cricket and soccer at the same venue for an entire season for example. I agree that we need a bigger rectangular venue to host those larger games maybe 4 or 5 times a year but it is pointless to give them 50,000 seats when they struggle to fill 1/5th of that for a regular season game. All Footy Pk requires is some decent transport networks servicing it other than road based systems then it would be fine.

Hospitals and Water. Thats what we need. But sweet FA will be done about either.

[GWW]

Saw on the News tonight the Tourism Minister Lomax Smith announcing a lawn bowls tournament happening here in 4 years time. Apparently its the third time its been announced. How pathetic, and what a joke, i think this mob of clowns need to be booted out. Start planning the building of that stadium, Martin!!

[therisingblues]

Saw on the News tonight the Tourism Minister Lomax Smith announcing a lawn bowls tournament happening here in 4 years time. Apparently its the third time its been announced. How pathetic, and what a joke, i think this mob of clowns need to be booted out. Start planning the building of that stadium, Martin!!

A lawn bowls stadium? Sounds very Adelaide to me.

[mick]

Mark my words, this new hospital (The Rann Marg)if it is ever built, will end up the equivalent of the State bank disaster in 1990. The current economic crisis would give mediocre Mike the chance to cancel without losing face, however his ego won't allow him to give up his monument.

[Gozu]

I agree the Marg is just Rann locking something in to be remembered by but still no one bar rusted on supporters will be voting for the Libs in 2010. What happened to MHS and his Billion dollar stadium in the middle of the city and free & unlimited water for everyone? Turn it up. This Rann govt is just ordinary but the Liberals would be downright dangerous.

[sunbowler]

Take a leaf from Victoria, if you need something then go ahead and build it.

yes but what do we actually need???? well it depends on which minority group opens its yap. One group including the Government say we need a new hospital. Other groups who have no idea on what they are commenting on say we can renovate the current one. Well sorry those in the building industry know buildings have only a limited useful life before it is uneconomical to renovate again for its present use. Sadly the RAH is at this point IMHO.

the Other groups want a new sports stadium in the city. all well and good what sports will that be?? Everything overlaps their seasons and it would make it impossible to play both cricket and soccer at the same venue for an entire season for example. I agree that we need a bigger rectangular venue to host those larger games maybe 4 or 5 times a year but it is pointless to give them 50,000 seats when they struggle to fill 1/5th of that for a regular season game. All Footy Pk requires is some decent transport networks servicing it other than road based systems then it would be fine.

If we need a new hospital why don't we just build a functional replacement. Why does it have to look good and why would you include the extra cost of rehabilitating railway yards if you are trying to get a maximum result for your health dollar? Why does it have less beds than the current one and where are the future health workers going to come from (av Nurse age approx 50)? Why does it need a name change, isn't it just a bloody hospital? It just seems to be all spin and no common sense. Why aren't our media out belting these navel gazers around the head? Are they smart enough to make some future use out of the old one and do they (as in Dept of Health & pollies) have the nous and money to make sure a new one doesn't become rundown as well.
As for sports stadiums why does the state government or any government have to chip in. If SA is so important to the 'world game' why doesn't FIFA with all its billions build one for us. Then watch them scream if it has to be multi purpose. The same goes for the AFL, the SANFL, SACA and the V8s. More people follow and are involved in local teams right across the state in all sorts of sports however they get stuff all from North Terrace. You don't fight obesity and declining levels of fitness by building sports stadiums for the elite who can afford tickets.
As for the desal plant. In the car industry Rann, MHS & co would be known as 'wood ducks". Fair dinkum WA built one for $400m and ours is over $1b, and if we have above average rainfall it won't be needed for several months. It doesn't sort the Murray out, or the Coorong and Lower Lakes or help the irrigators! It should be built on Hindmarsh Island operating 24/7 and then raise the height of the Barrages. Adelaide could still draw all the water it needed thru Mannum with existing infrastructure. If they were smart enough it could also be used to reduce salinity in the Murray and of course the disposal of the waste saline makes a whole lot more sense in the Southern Ocean than St Vincents Gulf. We should have had a desal plant 40 years ago and the desal process should be a major research project of our Unis along with alternative energies. Anyone patting themselves on the back for building something 40 years too late and with awkward technology should hit themselves harder. I feel better now. Keep up the good work on this forum.

[sunbowler]

Take a leaf from Victoria, if you need something then go ahead and build it.

yes but what do we actually need???? well it depends on which minority group opens its yap. One group including the Government say we need a new hospital. Other groups who have no idea on what they are commenting on say we can renovate the current one. Well sorry those in the building industry know buildings have only a limited useful life before it is uneconomical to renovate again for its present use. Sadly the RAH is at this point IMHO.

the Other groups want a new sports stadium in the city. all well and good what sports will that be?? Everything overlaps their seasons and it would make it impossible to play both cricket and soccer at the same venue for an entire season for example. I agree that we need a bigger rectangular venue to host those larger games maybe 4 or 5 times a year but it is pointless to give them 50,000 seats when they struggle to fill 1/5th of that for a regular season game. All Footy Pk requires is some decent transport networks servicing it other than road based systems then it would be fine.

[stan]

As to answer the question about whether the state government are in trouble. Well look at the mob of idiots then look at the opposition mob of idiots. And the answer is they are not the ones in trouble, either of them. The general public is in trouble!

[Dogwatcher]

Marty's lost any momentum he had.