Abbott's Gone!

[Bully]

bully, the idea that Bob Brown would change parties and that the Labor or Liberal parties would accept him and say "Oh, OK, Bob, you can take over as Prime Minister" is just laughable.

laughable you say...i agree. Yes Bob brown is laughing all the way to the bank...if you understand what i mean. Hes a piece of work more so then the rest of them. My point is IF he swicthed or whatever then it would ruin us IF he becomes PM.

But you cant tell me that you cant see that he wants to take over from Julia?? If you cant then the wool is pulled over your eyes

[dedja]

unless a Kernot like military boot scenario is happening behind the scenes ...

No chance in hell Bob Brown would join the Laberals or Libor.

Not even through the back door? ...

[Sky Pilot]

unless a Kernot like military boot scenario is happening behind the scenes ...

No chance in hell Bob Brown would join the Laberals or Libor.

Not even through the back door? ...

Gold

[redandblack]

bully, the idea that Bob Brown would change parties and that the Labor or Liberal parties would accept him and say "Oh, OK, Bob, you can take over as Prime Minister" is just laughable.

laughable you say...i agree. Yes Bob brown is laughing all the way to the bank...if you understand what i mean. Hes a piece of work more so then the rest of them. My point is IF he swicthed or whatever then it would ruin us IF he becomes PM.

But you cant tell me that you cant see that he wants to take over from Julia?? If you cant then the wool is pulled over your eyes

Bully, you would have to have a flock of sheep pulled over your eyes to believe Bob Brown could become Prime Minister in your scenario.

He would have to resign from the Senate, resign from The Greens, join the ALP, persuade a Labor MP to also resign, persuade the Government to risk a by-election and government, then persuade the majority of Labor MP’s to vote out Julia Gillard and replace her with him!

Somehow I don’t think this is going to happen.

I know your argument that he’ll become PM and laugh all the way to the bank is persuasive, but I’ll stick with my opinion, given the above.

[Sky Pilot]

bully, the idea that Bob Brown would change parties and that the Labor or Liberal parties would accept him and say "Oh, OK, Bob, you can take over as Prime Minister" is just laughable.

laughable you say...i agree. Yes Bob brown is laughing all the way to the bank...if you understand what i mean. Hes a piece of work more so then the rest of them. My point is IF he swicthed or whatever then it would ruin us IF he becomes PM.

But you cant tell me that you cant see that he wants to take over from Julia?? If you cant then the wool is pulled over your eyes

Bully, you would have to have a flock of sheep pulled over your eyes to believe Bob Brown could become Prime Minister in your scenario.
I think you are right r and b

He would have to resign from the Senate, resign from The Greens, join the ALP, persuade a Labor MP to also resign, persuade the Government to risk a by-election and government, then persuade the majority of Labor MP’s to vote out Julia Gillard and replace her with him!

Somehow I don’t think this is going to happen.

I know your argument that he’ll become PM and laugh all the way to the bank is persuasive, but I’ll stick with my opinion, given the above.

[southee]

Agreed, BP.

I added the 'ALP advertisement' bit on fish's post as a Mod.

Thanks guys. I just enjoy coming here to discuss politics...even though I dont agree with everyone what I do like is listening to other opinions without political ads in your face . We get enough of them at election time.

Thanks Fish and R&B for being fair.

[redandblack]

No problems, mate.

By the way, I reakon our coke bet is about 50/50 right now. Agree??

[southee]

No problems, mate.

By the way, I reakon our coke bet is about 50/50 right now. Agree??

Yeah......we will see what happens after Sunday night

Just remember Diet Coke for me......less carbon emissions.... (joking)

[fish]

The Greens are a disgrace. 14% of the vote (or less) and demand 55% of the decision making. Quicker they are despatched nto oblivion the better we will ALL be

Sky Pilot if you think the Greens are so bad why do you need to fabricate stuff about them to make them look bad?

[Media Park]

I made a comment (I think it was on this thread) a week or so ago, and we all need to take it in...

There is a possibility (only a possibility) that in years to come, a third political party may become a power.

Not at the expense of one of the big two, but as well as. This would be fantastic, and truly change the political landscape.

But realistically (and for the discussion), I am 23, and will see nothing other than a Liberal or Labor Prime Minister in my life time.

It will take that long for a party (most likely the Greens at this point) to become strong enough.

[stan]

I made a comment (I think it was on this thread) a week or so ago, and we all need to take it in...

There is a possibility (only a possibility) that in years to come, a third political party may become a power.

Not at the expense of one of the big two, but as well as. This would be fantastic, and truly change the political landscape.

But realistically (and for the discussion), I am 23, and will see nothing other than a Liberal or Labor Prime Minister in my life time.

It will take that long for a party (most likely the Greens at this point) to become strong enough.

Ok the problem is that at the moment while there are people looking for that 3rd or 4th option, there will always be the typical libral and labour voters. I guess your probably waiting for most of them to move on I guess, which I would say would be the only way the greens for example would become big enough for this.
The problem with the Greens is that there is no middle ground, your just not going to get enough support for them.

[mick]

bully, the idea that Bob Brown would change parties and that the Labor or Liberal parties would accept him and say "Oh, OK, Bob, you can take over as Prime Minister" is just laughable.

laughable you say...i agree. Yes Bob brown is laughing all the way to the bank...if you understand what i mean. Hes a piece of work more so then the rest of them. My point is IF he swicthed or whatever then it would ruin us IF he becomes PM.

But you cant tell me that you cant see that he wants to take over from Julia?? If you cant then the wool is pulled over your eyes

Bully, you would have to have a flock of sheep pulled over your eyes to believe Bob Brown could become Prime Minister in your scenario.

He would have to resign from the Senate, resign from The Greens, join the ALP, persuade a Labor MP to also resign, persuade the Government to risk a by-election and government, then persuade the majority of Labor MP’s to vote out Julia Gillard and replace her with him!

Somehow I don’t think this is going to happen.

I know your argument that he’ll become PM and laugh all the way to the bank is persuasive, but I’ll stick with my opinion, given the above.

Brown is effectively PM now

[Sky Pilot]

The Greens are a disgrace. 14% of the vote (or less) and demand 55% of the decision making. Quicker they are despatched nto oblivion the better we will ALL be

Sky Pilot if you think the Greens are so bad why do you need to fabricate stuff about them to make them look bad?

Since when did the Greens have a mortgage on BS and spin? Fight fire with fire I say. Besides I love getting up their noses. Anyway my figures are close to right.

[redandblack]

Your 55% figure is nonsense.

What evidence do you have for that figure?

You've had plenty of opportunity to answer that question.

"My figures are close to right" doesn't cut it.

[Q.]

The Greens are a disgrace. 14% of the vote (or less) and demand 55% of the decision making. Quicker they are despatched nto oblivion the better we will ALL be

Sky Pilot if you think the Greens are so bad why do you need to fabricate stuff about them to make them look bad?

Since when did the Greens have a mortgage on BS and spin? Fight fire with fire I say. Besides I love getting up their noses. Anyway my figures are close to right.

"I am told-but am not able to verify"

[redandblack]

Well, I've just watched the announcement and press conferences.

One thing is clear. Mr Abbott is totally out of his depth.

[BenchedEagle]

Well, I've just watched the announcement and press conferences.

One thing is clear. Mr Abbott is totally out of his depth.

Stuggled! The ol 'Wel have to wait and see closer to the election' line about the cost of his plan is not gonna wash now.

And will be interesting if he opposes the assistance to Steel and other industrys considering he said they would oppose ALL of the package.

Labor's long game is about to pay off. Wont happen overnight but it will happen.

[Sky Pilot]

Well, I've just watched the announcement and press conferences.

One thing is clear. Mr Abbott is totally out of his depth.

An opinion of one or can you back this up with facts?

[redandblack]

I'll be very happy to keep up a running commentary on his response, SP, stay tuned

I watched it, did you?

Presuming you didn't, I'll post other's opinions as they appear.

Tony's problem is that he said it would be the end of the world, but it turns out that most people will be better off. The look on his face and on Joe Hockey's said it all.

[Sky Pilot]

I'll be very happy to keep up a running commentary on his response, SP, stay tuned

I watched it, did you?

Presuming you didn't, I'll post other's opinions as they appear.

Tony's problem is that he said it would be the end of the world, but it turns out that most people will be better off. The look on his face and on Joe Hockey's said it all.

Fair enough. No I didn't watch it because I am working flat strap but I did see about 15 minutes of the PMs address earlier while I was having a capuccino and a biscuit. The bottom line is it (the carbon tax) will make no difference to climate change but it will make people feel better about it. Here's one comment I have had emailed to me in the last hour
The design of the tax is a quagmire of complexity and you cannot trust this Government to get it right. It is a massive and permanent increase in the size of government, and includes a $10 billion Gillard Bank to finance high risk, speculative projects.
In the first four years alone, $382 million will be spent to manage this massive money-go-round.

IMHO I see more pink bats, failed school halls and dodgy decision-making with the live cattle industry just waiting to happen.