2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

[Gozu]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

[mick]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

Regardless Rudd is gone.

[Q.]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

[Sky Pilot]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

What are the Libs doing wrong with their costings?

[Q.]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

What are the Libs doing wrong with their costings?

That they won't be fully released until the eleventh hour.

[Sojourner]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

Probably has something to do with the form of the ALP in not releasing their own costings until the eve of the election on the last two elections to avoid scrutiny?

[Q.]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

Probably has something to do with the form of the ALP in not releasing their own costings until the eve of the election on the last two elections to avoid scrutiny?

For which they were hammered for.

[Jimmy_041]

as distinct from the recent Labor Govts who dont know how to use a calculator.
Have they ever got near a budget target?

[Barto]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

Congrats to the sheep who believe Abbott and Murdoch's propaganda that the government have destroyed the country.

[Barto]

as distinct from the recent Labor Govts who dont know how to use a calculator.
Have they ever got near a budget target?

Has anyone?

[dedja]

The born to rulers generally do ...

[Sky Pilot]

It's almost hard to believe the Libs aren't getting hammered in the press for their costings shenanigans. Almost.

What are the Libs doing wrong with their costings?

That they won't be fully released until the eleventh hour.

Well that is standard practice. Both sides do it, and both bleat like stuck pigs, but it is how the system works and I can't see it ever being changed. It should be of course but these people do what they want, not what we would like them to do.

[Sky Pilot]

The born to rulers generally do ...

Born to rulers...? What the feck does that mean?

[Jimmy_041]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

Congrats to the sheep who believe Abbott and Murdoch's propaganda that the government have destroyed the country.

Reasonable article Barto, but anyone involved in the economy knows how tough it is out there at the moment despite us being told how lucky we are and how good we've got it.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/unemployment-figures-overlook-australia27s-hidden-jobless/4815020

[Sojourner]

Where are they?

[Q.]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

Congrats to the sheep who believe Abbott and Murdoch's propaganda that the government have destroyed the country.

Reasonable article Barto, but anyone involved in the economy knows how tough it is out there at the moment despite us being told how lucky we are and how good we've got it.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/unemployment-figures-overlook-australia27s-hidden-jobless/4815020

The employment figures have been calculated in that manner for a long time.

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/08/the-government-hasnt-hidden-unemployment/

The idea that some modified rules in the benefit system amount to manipulation of the unemployment rate is a “ridiculous proposition”, as Bob Gregory put it. It’s a shame the ABC so uncritically accepted this point of view, and that it has been reiterated elsewhere.

The boring truth is that the unemployment rate is an imperfect, but very useful measure of an important, widely accepted aspect of the labour market. I am quite sure that there has been no conspiracy to manipulate the unemployment rate in Australia.

[Jimmy_041]

The unemployed are still out there though and I recall hearing it was changed around 2009 and we would be around 2% more now (Going from memory)

This just about sums up Labor
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/treasury-undermines-labor-claim-of-liberals-10-billion-black-hole/story-fnho52ip-1226706960342#mm-breached

The Three Stooges should make T shirts with $10b written on them

BTW, good luck today Q

[Q.]

Cheers Jim, looks like I'm gonna have to apply sunscreen to the noggin!

[Barto]

The Economist backs Labor:

"The choice between a man with a defective manifesto and one with a defective personality is not appealing—but Mr Rudd gets our vote, largely because of Labor’s decent record.”

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... ky-no-more

Congrats to the sheep who believe Abbott and Murdoch's propaganda that the government have destroyed the country.

Reasonable article Barto, but anyone involved in the economy knows how tough it is out there at the moment despite us being told how lucky we are and how good we've got it.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/unemployment-figures-overlook-australia27s-hidden-jobless/4815020

It's always "tough" for the non-wealthy, no matter what point in history we look at it.

I cant recall a time where the average person didn't struggle a bit, unless they have amazing self control and never buy any non essentials. I'm in my forties, perhaps there's someone older here who can remember this time of abundance for the low-middle classes?

[Bully]

another big wank session in Brisbane today at the "launch"