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Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:21 pm
by dedja
... and finally he's been charged. Significantly, Kathy Jackson hasn't escaped either.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/fair-work ... 6496425245

SUSPENDED Labor MP Craig Thomson has accused Fair Work Australia of being "pressured" after charges were laid against the MP in the latest setback for the Gillard Government.

Just days after Speaker Peter Slipper resigned in disgrace, FWA's decision to file civil charges in the Federal Court is another blow to the Government's credibility.

It comes as NSW and Victorian police are close to finalising their own investigations into Mr Thomson - and are considering whether to lay criminal charges against the former Health Services Union boss.

The FWA, which spent three years investigating Mr Thomson's lavish spending as HSU national secretary from 2002 to 2007, said it will be seeking “pecuniary penalties, as well as compensation” from the embattled MP.

Mr Thomson is accused of misusing his union credit card for cash advances without receipts, while the FWA also found the MP had splurged hundreds of thousands of dollars on prostitutes, air travel and other personal spending without authorisation.

The Prime Minister Julia Gillard, in late April, announced that Mr Thomson would step aside from the Labor Caucus and instead remain in parliament as an independent MP.

In a statement, the NSW MP said he had “always maintained my innocence in these matters and I continue to do so”.

"While I am disappointed, I am not surprised that Fair Work Australia has decided to go ahead with its claims,” he said.

"Clearly Fair Work Australia has felt pressured into responding this way given the political process which it is part of. Naturally I will vigorously defend these claims which are based on a totally discredited Fair Work Australia report."

After being criticised over the length of its inquiry, FWA found 105 contraventions of civil penalty provisions, and another 76 contraventions of union rules, allegedly committed by Mr Thomson, national secretary Kathy Jackson, then national president Michael Williamson, an auditor, and the union itself.


Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:47 pm
by Sky Pilot
This will all be carefully managed to ensure he is not found guilty of anything until after the federal election. Then it won't matter and he will be chucked under the bus.

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:06 pm
by southee
Sky Pilot wrote:This will all be carefully managed to ensure he is not found guilty of anything until after the federal election. Then it won't matter and he will be chucked under the bus.


I'm sure Gillard will keep supporting him as per usual !

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:13 pm
by Sky Pilot
southee wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:This will all be carefully managed to ensure he is not found guilty of anything until after the federal election. Then it won't matter and he will be chucked under the bus.


I'm sure Gillard will keep supporting him as per usual !

Awful. Simply awful how this self interested Socialist Green government is screwing everything up just to stay in power.

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:09 am
by southee
Sky Pilot wrote:
southee wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:This will all be carefully managed to ensure he is not found guilty of anything until after the federal election. Then it won't matter and he will be chucked under the bus.


I'm sure Gillard will keep supporting him as per usual !

Awful. Simply awful how this self interested Socialist Green government is screwing everything up just to stay in power.


I see they asked Gillard again about the Thompson affair and she still used the catchphrase "I won't comment as its a matter before the courts ..."

Weak as pi$$ and gutless !!!

I will refrain from using the word "shame" as I know it's such a touchy word of late .... :roll:

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:46 am
by Jimmy_041
It's good to see someone is getting job satisfaction - a rare thing these days

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:06 pm
by bulldogproud2
southee wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:
southee wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:This will all be carefully managed to ensure he is not found guilty of anything until after the federal election. Then it won't matter and he will be chucked under the bus.


I'm sure Gillard will keep supporting him as per usual !

Awful. Simply awful how this self interested Socialist Green government is screwing everything up just to stay in power.


I see they asked Gillard again about the Thompson affair and she still used the catchphrase "I won't comment as its a matter before the courts ..."

Weak as pi$$ and gutless !!!

I will refrain from using the word "shame" as I know it's such a touchy word of late .... :roll:

At least they did not do what Abbott did last week and approach for his vote!! ;)

As for Gillard's comments, no case before the courts is ever meant to be mentioned as it may result in a prejudicial mistrial. Gillard has taken the correct stance here, to be honest.
Having said that, if the allegations are true (and I have a feeling they are) he has been a disgrace!!

Cheers

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:21 pm
by southee
I am just hanging for another academy award performance by Thompson in Parliament bulldog.

Maybe a "sequel" to the tears and the speech he produced last time.

I look forward to this coming to a theatre soon...... :roll:

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:54 pm
by Gozu
southee wrote:I look forward to this coming to a theatre soon...... :roll:


Same theatre as the AWB scandal starring one Alexander Downer? ;)

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:28 am
by bulldogproud2
Gozu wrote:
southee wrote:I look forward to this coming to a theatre soon...... :roll:


Same theatre as the AWB scandal starring one Alexander Downer? ;)


Followed by John Howard starring in 'They threw the children overboard so I could win an election based on a lie!!' ;)

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:46 am
by scoob
bulldogproud2 wrote:
Gozu wrote:
southee wrote:I look forward to this coming to a theatre soon...... :roll:


Same theatre as the AWB scandal starring one Alexander Downer? ;)


Followed by John Howard starring in 'They threw the children overboard so I could win an election based on a lie!!' ;)


Not a bad deflect guys... maybe you can bring out the sexist card next? :lol:

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:13 am
by bulldogproud2
scoob wrote:
bulldogproud2 wrote:
Gozu wrote:
southee wrote:I look forward to this coming to a theatre soon...... :roll:


Same theatre as the AWB scandal starring one Alexander Downer? ;)


Followed by John Howard starring in 'They threw the children overboard so I could win an election based on a lie!!' ;)


Not a bad deflect guys... maybe you can bring out the sexist card next? :lol:


Thanks, Scoob, was thinking of 'Planet of the Misogynists' but I could not get Alan Jones to play a support role ;)

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:08 pm
by Sky Pilot
Gentleman, am I around the mark by claiming that all of us - lefties and righties - have a right to be governed by a better class of politician? Hawke set the standard when he claimed no child be living in poverty under my government and it just went down hill from there. On both sides no less.

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:46 pm
by dedja
Sky Pilot wrote:Gentleman, am I around the mark by claiming that all of us - lefties and righties - have a right to be governed by a better class of politician?


Yes, spot on ...

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:50 pm
by Sky Pilot
dedja wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:Gentleman, am I around the mark by claiming that all of us - lefties and righties - have a right to be governed by a better class of politician?


Yes, spot on ...

well, that makes two of us who have some common sense. :roll:

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:43 pm
by southee
Sky Pilot wrote:
dedja wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:Gentleman, am I around the mark by claiming that all of us - lefties and righties - have a right to be governed by a better class of politician?


Yes, spot on ...

well, that makes two of us who have some common sense. :roll:


x3

...but feel for the poor innocent man :cry:

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:55 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Sky Pilot wrote:
dedja wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:Gentleman, am I around the mark by claiming that all of us - lefties and righties - have a right to be governed by a better class of politician?


Yes, spot on ...

well, that makes two of us who have some common sense. :roll:

Some have been saying this for a long time. The best part of having no political allegiance. I don't have to defend anyone.

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:06 pm
by Jimmy_041
As a politician friend of mine said; you go into politics for one of two reasons:

1. Ego
2. Money

but, once they get in, you always should refer back to 1.

Any sensible person wouldn't do it.

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:07 pm
by tipper
this is interesting considering the timing of yesterdays announcement...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nati ... 6565909723

Re: peoples thoughts on mr thomson?????

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:44 pm
by Gozu
Very interesting.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I heard some analysis yesterday of the PM's decision to call the election so early meant no matter how much of a stink Abbott kicks up over an MP's seat it meant they were locked in now regardless? Not sure if that is right and plus I think Labor can afford to lose a seat or two and still remain in govt.

Either way Thomson is expected to be charged with 150 counts of fraud, not sure you can run with the defence the police have made 150 mistakes there :lol: