bye bye Mr Rudd

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Postby noone » Tue May 01, 2007 4:27 pm

Look at this site http://www.ozpolitics.info/blog/2007/04 ... -favour-3/ , has the graphs of late mapped out, the last 5 polls have been 57-61-57-59-57. Now if that is howard swinging back... id hate to it swinging away.

E here is the graph Image

its called random sample noise, in all likely hood the true poll numbers prolly havn't moved more than .5% in the last 5 polls however due to noise and the australian having to sell papers, its reported as big news each week.

If you want a decent picture, look at the combined aggregate of the 3 polling companies. (this is abit old at the moment, will be updated in the next few days for march) (or if your going to only look at one, look at ACNielsen)

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Postby our_longreach » Tue May 01, 2007 5:50 pm

Very interesting graphs....

Labor should get Julia Gillard out of the spotlight. She scares the hell out of me with her man voice and her sour Steve Waugh look alike face.
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Postby redden whites » Tue May 01, 2007 6:57 pm

Bronwyn Bishop, Amanda Vanstone,Di Laidlaw,Joan Hall and Trish Draper are hornbags?
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Postby noone » Tue May 01, 2007 7:53 pm

ok so in the threads going at the moment posters are attacking the alp for having women who they think are looks over substance and then for having women who they DONT like the look of?
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Postby Magpiespower » Wed May 02, 2007 1:16 am

It's the beginning of the end for Federal Labor.

Again.

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Postby devilsadvocate » Wed May 02, 2007 12:28 pm

Labour will lose the election on Julia's stupidity in pushing the agenda of the Unions.

Unions will destroy industries in this country faster than a US invasion ever could.

If ALP wins, you can kiss goodbye the mining boom. The ALP's overturning of their 'no new uranium mines' policy will be a waste of time because unionism will make getting the U out of the ground unviable.

Manufacturing companies will be crippled by productivity constraints and potential IR action so will just shut up shop and move to China/India.

Unions hurt the very people they are supposed to be batting for.

AWA's are the way forward for productivity in this country, and the way they have been smeared through the media advertising campaigns of the unions has been a DISGRACE.

I would like to hear even 1 instance (from someone on here) of an AWA disadvantaging them.
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Postby our_longreach » Wed May 02, 2007 12:44 pm

I TOTALLY agree - very good post.

I have said this many times before on this site. Unions are old fashioned and irrelevant to this day and age. This is the age of the employee. If you don't like your working conditions, leave and get another one with better conditions.

Unions are organsiations full of disrespectful shit stirrers and trouble makers and Labor's association with the movement will bring them undone.
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Further fuel to the fire

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed May 02, 2007 12:52 pm

How ‘sweet’ it is as PM begins fightback!

Plotting to bring a still cocky Labor Party undone with a range of election “sweeteners,” the Prime Minister is back in “red” figures on Centrebet’s Federal Election market, and has closed the gap on rival Kevin Rudd in the race for the Lodge!


Having blown to $2.05 a few weeks back, John Howard is back into $1.95 on Centrebet, with Mr Rudd easing to $1.77 after reaching a shortest-ever price of $1.72! The Coalition lost favouritism for the Election battle in mid March under a wave of backing for Labor.

“That punting momentum that Mr Rudd has enjoyed in the past few months is still there, but there are signs of a turnaround,” Centrebet analyst Neil Evans said. “After interest rates predictably stood still, Mr Howard will continue punching holes in Labor’s seemingly flakey stance on industrial relations, and then grease up voters in next week’s budget.”

Of the $150,000.00 plunged on Labor, 80 per cent of that has come in Mr Rudd’s 2007 honeymoon period, while Mr Howard is preparing to crash through $250,000.00 barrier, although more than half of that came before Mr Rudd arrived as the Labor leader!

“As far as the betting goes, Mr Howard’s attack on Mr Rudd’s experience and integrity didn’t work, but a policy war involving Labor deputy Julia Gillard, might tell a different tale.”

Working also for Mr Howard is that Centrebet punters have backed him in from $1.31 to $1.20 to retain the seat of Bennelong after early support was all for Labor’s star recruit Maxine McKew!


FEDERAL ELECTION

$1.77 LABOR
$1.95 COALITION

BENNELONG

$1.20 John Howard (Lib)
$4.00 Maxine McKew (ALP)
$15.00 Any other candidate




Log on to http://www.centrebet.com to view its latest odds.
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Postby Ecky » Wed May 02, 2007 12:58 pm

I'd be interested to see some odds on Boothby!
The way Rann, Foley and co are talking, you would think Mrs Studley would be odds on!

Providing Nicole doesn't give up my odds would be something like:

Southcott 1.05
Cornes 11.00
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Postby our_longreach » Wed May 02, 2007 1:02 pm

Ecky wrote:I'd be interested to see some odds on Boothby!
The way Rann, Foley and co are talking, you would think Mrs Studley would be odds on!

Providing Nicole doesn't give up my odds would be something like:

Southcott 1.05
Cornes 11.00

Ecky, have a look at the interview in the 'Oh my God' thread - you may want to revise your market.
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Postby scoob » Wed May 02, 2007 1:12 pm

Ecky wrote:I'd be interested to see some odds on Boothby!
The way Rann, Foley and co are talking, you would think Mrs Studley would be odds on!

Providing Nicole doesn't give up my odds would be something like:

Southcott 1.05
Cornes 11.00


No More Bets Thanks.... :lol:
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Postby devilsadvocate » Wed May 02, 2007 1:28 pm

our_longreach wrote:I TOTALLY agree - very good post.

I have said this many times before on this site. Unions are old fashioned and irrelevant to this day and age. This is the age of the employee. If you don't like your working conditions, leave and get another one with better conditions.

Unions are organsiations full of disrespectful shit stirrers and trouble makers and Labor's association with the movement will bring them undone.


O_L, exactly, it is the age of the employee. The thing with AWA's is that the company can't afford to make them as unfavourable to employees as Labour and the unions are making out, because, as you say, the employee will just walk away and find another job.

The current economic environment works very well IMO. The employer gains if the employee is productive, and the employee gains through higher pay and better conditions for being productive. If either part of this equation is out of balance, the employee leaves or is shown the door.

Moral of the story, work hard and you'll never be out of a job if the current economic environment continues.

Unions are a lazy mans haven, and by and large, us Aussies aren't lazy.

Unionism died in the 80's with lycra and permed hair and we are ALL better off for it!
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Postby mick » Wed May 02, 2007 2:12 pm

It appears not suprisingly that Gillard will be the ALPs Achilles heel. Her old fashioned hatred of business and veiled threats against business interests have come to the fore. I predict she will become the focus of the governments attacks on Labor. She is an old style socialist underneath it all.
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Postby Ecky » Wed May 02, 2007 2:45 pm

our_longreach wrote:
Ecky wrote:I'd be interested to see some odds on Boothby!
The way Rann, Foley and co are talking, you would think Mrs Studley would be odds on!

Providing Nicole doesn't give up my odds would be something like:

Southcott 1.05
Cornes 11.00

Ecky, have a look at the interview in the 'Oh my God' thread - you may want to revise your market.


I have - pure gold. :lol: I love the subtitles (or are they called supertitles since they are above the vision?)
But since there are other idiots out there who would back her, you can't be too generous...

Maybe a more interesting market would be:

When will she stand down as Labor candidate for Boothby?

In the next week $2.50
In the next month $4.00
Some other time before the election $3.00
She will make it to the election $5.00
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Postby devilsadvocate » Wed May 02, 2007 2:47 pm

Never trust a bloodnut!!!

HAHAHA!!!

I think it's great that she'll cock up all Rudds good work. Although, he had the chance to tell the unions where to go once and for all prior to the ALP conference, but instead gave the dog a bone.

BIG mistake!
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Postby Psyber » Sun May 06, 2007 12:58 pm

our_longreach wrote:Very interesting graphs....

Labor should get Julia Gillard out of the spotlight. She scares the hell out of me with her man voice and her sour Steve Waugh look alike face.

AND she's a lawyer!!
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Postby PhilG » Sun May 06, 2007 6:53 pm

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Postby Psyber » Sun May 06, 2007 7:59 pm

PhilG wrote:...Julia has been careless as of late, but I know (as a former constiuent of Lalor when she was a backbencher) that she is not like that normally.

What worries me, Phil, is not that she has been careless, but that in that carelessness she has revealed her true intent and true nature and perhaps that of the powers in the party as a whole.
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Postby redandblack » Sun May 06, 2007 9:18 pm

As distinct from the true nature of the Government's plans for 'strengthening' WorkChoices, as outlined by Nick Minchin when he thought nobody would know.
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Postby Psyber » Sun May 06, 2007 10:05 pm

redandblack wrote:As distinct from the true nature of the Government's plans for 'strengthening' WorkChoices, as outlined by Nick Minchin when he thought nobody would know.

They're all politicians and therefore fundamentally shonky - the problem is which ones will do the most harm!
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