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Re: If a tree falls in the forest...

Postby Lazarus » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:43 pm

Psyber, every time you are shown to have said something silly you try and change the meaning of what you originally said.

Country roads are taken into account in setting speed limits. That is why they are 110kph when nowhere else is.

Factors such as the car driven and driving experience are specific to the individual. They are concrete examples(real, not abstract) of you saying the law should be modified to suit individuals(mainly yourself).
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Re: If a tree falls in the forest...

Postby Psyber » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:53 pm

Lazarus wrote:Psyber, every time you are shown to have said something silly you try and change the meaning of what you originally said.
Country roads are taken into account in setting speed limits. That is why they are 110kph when nowhere else is.
Factors such as the car driven and driving experience are specific to the individual. They are concrete examples(real, not abstract) of you saying the law should be modified to suit individuals(mainly yourself).
Lazarus, if someone misinterprets my meaning, re-asserting my intended meaning is not "changing" it. It is trying to correct the accidental change they made.
Language is an imprecise tool, and something that seems unambiguous when you write it, can prove no to be so through someone else's eyes.
That is so because we all measure what we see and hear [and write] against our own experience and assumptions, and people who have different lives, or different socio-political sets, do have problems finding common meaning - even sometimes for the same words.

The thrust of the issue to me was that of what constitutes "dangerous", and my assertion that speed alone is not automatically dangerous just because a bunch of bureaucrats choose to call it so.
110K is not really fast if you are not in traffic, and are on a largely empty road. The issue of danger really depends on multiple factors...
I don't object to the 110K limit on most country roads. In fact, I support the Adelaide Hills Council's decision to zone all country roads in its area 80K in principal.
It is on major country highways like the Western Highway, when they are almost empty, that I think 110K is really a bit silly.
That, and other clear level runs like those in remote locations with long distances between built up areas and good visibility.

I'll try not to use personal experience as an example, and phrase all examples in general terms, if I remember.
Mentioning the Porsche was meant as citing an example of a sound and stable vehicle, not bragging about once having owned one, which hardly makes one a big deal.
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Re: If a tree falls in the forest...

Postby Gozu » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:18 am

What do you know only about a week and a half after the event:

"Lib hopeful's 164km/h shame"

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

It would seem he has a history of speeding convictions so how long until The Advertiser starts a campaign to try and destroy the political career of Turbo Pete?
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